EVGA 'trade up' program...

[looper]

Very unlikely, but hoped-for scenario....

EVGA lets me trade up my 980Ti purchased February 7th for this new monster... NOT...

Please, no "You should have waited" comments, *pulling my fingernails out* Just kidding...Letterman face...

 

[airfathaaaaa]

if you bought a card knowning that new ones are expected 3 months later well...i dont know what you expect

 

[Silverforce11]

Suggest you sell that 980Ti.

Get the 1070. It's much more future proof and will routinely smash the 980Ti by this year's end.

Think 780Ti vs 970, but worse. Cos back then the 970 started slower and it's got some major deficiencies.

The 1070 should be at Titan X or slightly above, meaning it starts faster than the 980Ti already. The uarch changes make it a much stronger GPU for the next few years.

 

[looper]

Already got response from EVGA ( 20 minutes)...

"Hi Brian,

At this time we have no information on the release of the GTX 1080 and therefore no information on Step-Up availability. Please check our website in the upcoming weeks for any information. However, as the current cut-off date for entering the queue is 7 February, it's not likely the new cards will be available before your 90-day window expires. I'm quite sorry.

Regards,
EVGA "

 

[looper]

if you bought a card knowning that new ones are expected 3 months later well...i dont know what you expect

Actually, I didn't know that, believe it or not... very busy last 6 months or so, not keeping up with tech/PC topics, unfortunately.

 

[MagickMan]

If your 980TI can OC, just do that. A 980TI @1500MHz core will keep up with a 1080 at stock clocks in most scenarios.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Gee, thanks for your insight, Captain Obvious.

Actually, I didn't know that, believe it or not... very busy last 6 months or so, not keeping up with tech/PC topics, unfortunately.

Well then go sell your card on eBay or CS and hope someone else out there hasn't been keeping up.

 

[RussianSensation]

Suggest you sell that 980Ti.

Get the 1070. It's much more future proof and will routinely smash the 980Ti by this year's end.

Think 780Ti vs 970, but worse. Cos back then the 970 started slower and it's got some major deficiencies.

The 1070 should be at Titan X or slightly above, meaning it starts faster than the 980Ti already. The uarch changes make it a much stronger GPU for the next few years.

This. The OP also needs a CPU upgrade. A 1080p 240Hz monitor needs an i7 6700K OC to take full advantage of cards like 980Ti/1070/1080. A stock 2600K is bottlenecking this level of performance by 25-30%.

Even the Fury X, slower than a 1080 is CPU limited in many games at 1080p by an i7 4790K @ 4.9Ghz. GTX1080 for 120-240Hz 1080p gaming on a stock 2600K is CPU limited. You aren't getting the full potential out of the card, period. Even Digital Foundry shows the same.

I know people on this forum throw hissy fits when dual core CPUs aren't even in the minimums specs for 2016 games, defend 2GB VRAM GPUs at all costs, and don't want to admit that for 120-240Hz 1080p gaming, Sandy and Ivy are not fast enough to max out cards as fast as a 980Ti/1080.

"The results level out somewhat when clocks are equalised, with Sandy/Ivy Bridge regaining much of the ground they lost at stock settings. The reason here is pretty straightforward. With the release of the i7 4790K, Intel ramped up the clocks compared to previous generations, effectively overclocking the processor out of the box. Engage 'Enhanced Turbo' on your motherboard (boosting all cores to the max stock frequency), and you have a locked 4.4GHz CPU on all cores, up against 4.2GHz on Skylake. But there are still some noticeable boosts - GTA 5 on the 6700K is 17 per cent faster clock for clock than the 4790K, and 29 per cent faster than both Ivy and Sandy Bridge. Far Cry 4 - an eight-core aware title that demands high per-core performance sees Skylake move 17 points clear of the 4790K, and a mammoth 32 per cent ahead of the second and third-gen i7s."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-intel-skylake-core-i7-6700k-review

What's the point of getting a card 20-30% faster than a 980Ti when the 2600K is 30% slower than a Skylake i7 6700K OC? That 2600K needs to be overclocked to at least 4.8-4.9Ghz to make sense.

I have a feeling the VAST majority of PC gamers on 1080p will be buying 1070/1080 and not even realizing how much they are bottlenecking/limiting their GPU without applying DSR/VSR. I am sorry but Sandy and Ivy users with stock i5/i7s need to come to terms that their CPU is no longer good enough for cards of this level of performance for high refresh rate 1080p gaming.

 

[looper]

This. The OP also needs a CPU upgrade. A 1080p 240Hz monitor needs an i7 6700K OC to take full advantage of cards like 980Ti/1070/1080. A stock 2600K is bottlenecking this level of performance by 25-30%.

Even the Fury X, slower than a 1080 is CPU limited in many games at 1080p by an i7 4790K @ 4.9Ghz. GTX1080 for 120-240Hz 1080p gaming on a stock 2600K is CPU limited. You aren't getting the full potential out of the card, period. Even Digital Foundry shows the same.

I know people on this forum throw hissy fits when dual core CPUs aren't even in the minimums specs for 2016 games, defend 2GB VRAM GPUs at all costs, and don't want to admit that for 120-240Hz 1080p gaming, Sandy and Ivy are not fast enough to max out cards as fast as a 980Ti/1080.

"The results level out somewhat when clocks are equalised, with Sandy/Ivy Bridge regaining much of the ground they lost at stock settings. The reason here is pretty straightforward. With the release of the i7 4790K, Intel ramped up the clocks compared to previous generations, effectively overclocking the processor out of the box. Engage 'Enhanced Turbo' on your motherboard (boosting all cores to the max stock frequency), and you have a locked 4.4GHz CPU on all cores, up against 4.2GHz on Skylake. But there are still some noticeable boosts - GTA 5 on the 6700K is 17 per cent faster clock for clock than the 4790K, and 29 per cent faster than both Ivy and Sandy Bridge. Far Cry 4 - an eight-core aware title that demands high per-core performance sees Skylake move 17 points clear of the 4790K, and a mammoth 32 per cent ahead of the second and third-gen i7s."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-intel-skylake-core-i7-6700k-review

What's the point of getting a card 20-30% faster than a 980Ti when the 2600K is 30% slower than a Skylake i7 6700K OC? That 2600K needs to be overclocked to at least 4.8-4.9Ghz to make sense.

I have a feeling the VAST majority of PC gamers on 1080p will be buying 1070/1080 and not even realizing how much they are bottlenecking/limiting their GPU without applying DSR/VSR. I am sorry but Sandy and Ivy users with stock i5/i7s need to come to terms that their CPU is no longer good enough for cards of this level of performance for high refresh rate 1080p gaming.

Sorry, should have explained more... The new card will be part of a whole new Mini-ITX system build >
Asus Z170I Pro Gaming
i7-6700k
Corsair LPX 2x8GB Mem
Corsair H75 AIO cooler
Samsung EVO 850 1TB SSD
my 980Ti OR, if I get really crazy, one of the new ones by June/July I guess
EVGA SuperNova 650GS PS
Fractal Core 500 Mini-ITX case
external Samsung DVD/CDRW
Acer XB271HU 27" Predator monitor

 

[RussianSensation]

Sorry, should have explained more... The new card will be part of a whole new Mini-ITX system build >
Asus Z170I Pro Gaming
i7-6700k
Corsair LPX 2x8GB Mem
Corsair H75 AIO cooler
Samsung EVO 850 1TB SSD
my 980Ti OR, if I get nuts, one of the new ones by June/July I guess
EVGA SuperNova 650GS PS
Fractal Core 500 Mini-ITX case
external Samsung DVD/CDRW
Acer XB271HU 27" Predator monitor

:thumbsup::thumbsup: Perfect. Just wanted to give you a heads up. Nice system man!

You have good options either way if you have a spare card or can time the resale nicely. I bet right now you can still sell the 980Ti for $475-500. Then if you can wait until after-market cards in July, some of them should cost $600-620.

 

[looper]

:thumbsup::thumbsup: Perfect. Just wanted to give you a heads up. Nice system man!

You have good options either way if you have a spare card or can time the resale nicely. I bet right now you can still sell the 980Ti for $475-500. Then if you can wait until after-market cards in July, some of them should cost $600-620.

Thanks, appreciate that, as my eyes are hurting from all the reviews I've been reading this past week... but, I love it.

It's a real horse race (Ha, get it...) between that Acer and the ROG Asus PG279Q... I keep going back and forth on that, dang...

I am a bit concerned with the build, as my hands are big and there is NO extra space for anything... and look at the case I have now... the monstrous, heavy Corsair 600T... sheesh.

IRS was good to us this past year, for a change, as the Boss and I split the refund...After all, I have to do my part to get the economy moving again... (I can rationalize anything if I put my mind to it...)

 

[looper]

:thumbsup::thumbsup:
You have good options either way if you have a spare card or can time the resale nicely. I bet right now you can still sell the 980Ti for $475-500. Then if you can wait until after-market cards in July, some of them should cost $600-620.

Yeah, I'm just now starting to talk to friends who are computer people about buying the current rig (without the SSD), and have a few interested already.

You mean I have to wait until @ July to get 'Da Monsta 1080? That is going to KILL me, and our son is driving me crazy already...

Oh, and what's this about some folks saying the 1070 is better, for some reason? (Haven't had time to read about that yet...)

 

[stockwiz]

This. The OP also needs a CPU upgrade. A 1080p 240Hz monitor needs an i7 6700K OC to take full advantage of cards like 980Ti/1070/1080. A stock 2600K is bottlenecking this level of performance by 25-30%.

Even the Fury X, slower than a 1080 is CPU limited in many games at 1080p by an i7 4790K @ 4.9Ghz. GTX1080 for 120-240Hz 1080p gaming on a stock 2600K is CPU limited. You aren't getting the full potential out of the card, period. Even Digital Foundry shows the same.

I know people on this forum throw hissy fits when dual core CPUs aren't even in the minimums specs for 2016 games, defend 2GB VRAM GPUs at all costs, and don't want to admit that for 120-240Hz 1080p gaming, Sandy and Ivy are not fast enough to max out cards as fast as a 980Ti/1080.

"The results level out somewhat when clocks are equalised, with Sandy/Ivy Bridge regaining much of the ground they lost at stock settings. The reason here is pretty straightforward. With the release of the i7 4790K, Intel ramped up the clocks compared to previous generations, effectively overclocking the processor out of the box. Engage 'Enhanced Turbo' on your motherboard (boosting all cores to the max stock frequency), and you have a locked 4.4GHz CPU on all cores, up against 4.2GHz on Skylake. But there are still some noticeable boosts - GTA 5 on the 6700K is 17 per cent faster clock for clock than the 4790K, and 29 per cent faster than both Ivy and Sandy Bridge. Far Cry 4 - an eight-core aware title that demands high per-core performance sees Skylake move 17 points clear of the 4790K, and a mammoth 32 per cent ahead of the second and third-gen i7s."
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-intel-skylake-core-i7-6700k-review

What's the point of getting a card 20-30% faster than a 980Ti when the 2600K is 30% slower than a Skylake i7 6700K OC? That 2600K needs to be overclocked to at least 4.8-4.9Ghz to make sense.

I have a feeling the VAST majority of PC gamers on 1080p will be buying 1070/1080 and not even realizing how much they are bottlenecking/limiting their GPU without applying DSR/VSR. I am sorry but Sandy and Ivy users with stock i5/i7s need to come to terms that their CPU is no longer good enough for cards of this level of performance for high refresh rate 1080p gaming.

4.4 to 4.5 is a high enough overclock for a sandy... no need to blow it out of proportions and suggest a marginal upgrade to skylake on someone. If they're gonna upgrade they should get broadwell-e anyways.