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EVGA GTX460 2WIN Announced!!!

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notty22 said:
Well to be fair it was not relevant in Dec at the gtx 580 launch either, but thats history. They are both 40nm parts with 1gb dual gpu's, they will be compared.
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this card will be compaired with:

5970
6970
6990
580

and will probably take sales away from the 580 and 6970 (does the 5970 still sell? thought it was dead by now).

I hope Evga dont use it as a cashcow, and price it to high, I really think for it 2win, it needs to be around 360$ or so.
 
happy medium said:
No, you are wrong just the same gpu, not the same ram,clocks or cards.
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No, you can mix a DDR3 card with a DDR5 card, the clocks will adjust to the lowest card and you need to use the same cards. Thats why you can SLI a 275 with a 295 when they are the same GPU.
 
Skurge said:
No, you can mix a DDR3 card with a DDR5 card, the clocks will adjust to the lowest card and you need to use the same cards. Thats why you can SLI a 275 with a 295 when they are the same GPU.
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Dddr3 / ddr5 what? are you talking about?

A gtx275 and gtx295 are not the exact same card and back then you did need the ame exact card.

Things have changed Skurge, go do some googling buddy, you are wrong.
 
happy medium said:
Dddr3 / ddr5 what? are you talking about?

A gtx275 and gtx295 are not the exact same card and back then you did need the ame exact card.

Things have changed Skurge, go do some googling buddy, you are wrong.
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You can't SLI cards with different types or amounts of RAM (hence the GDDR3, GDDR5 comparison)

You are basically saying I am right by saying the 275 and the 295 are not the same card, but the same GPU and you can't SLI them.
 
I gotta say, I'm really loving the look of that cooler. Does this do Quad SLI, I wonder?



No quad support, sorry.

Straight from evga

The good news?

Its going to be cheaper than 580..so thats good news.

Sorry if posted already.
 
Skurge said:
You can't SLI cards with different types or amounts of RAM (hence the GDDR3, GDDR5 comparison)

You are basically saying I am right by saying the 275 and the 295 are not the same card, but the same GPU and you can't SLI them.
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What's with all the confusion. For SLI you need the same card model, period. Clocks don't matter.

What is with all this arguing about quad scaling. Quad doesn't scale, no game is parallel enough to make use of four GPUs without being held back by serialized CPU code, unless you run insane resolutions. Quad doesn't scale well at 2560x (4MP) and it doesn't scale at all at 1920x (2MP). It's for a niche market who have 3 monitors, best scaling would be at 7680x (12MP), but even with 5760x (7MP) you will have decent enough scaling to make the investment worth while.

It has nothing to do with CPU bottleneck. It's the programming that holds back the graphics and there is nothing you can do about it because all games have serial portions of code. To get these setups to scale, you have to increase the parallel workload portion, which is the resolution.

And stop saying that AMD has quad scaling working while NV doesn't. Nobody has ever tested NV scaling at eyefinity/surround resolutions yet, the highest tested was 2560x1600, and at the resolution no vendor has a quad setup that is a worthwhile investment.
 
This card is one generation late to the fray. 460's are cheap nowadays. If this card is more than $299.99 it's not that good a value.

They should have put their time toward dual 560 setup.
 
I suppose they must have realized with the imminent release of the 590 if they don't put it out now, no one will ever buy it. As it stands it will be interesting to see how Evga differentiates between the two cards.
 
What it will allow is surround multi monitor gaming on AMD chipsets. All those people could never run sli, and therefor were limited with Nvidia choices and its unique features.
 
RussianSensation said:
I think I am out of touch with reality. But how exactly does that make sense when you can get 2x HD6850s for $300 or 2x GTX560s for $400?

Also, 1 PCB is cheaper than 2 PCBs. :hmm:

I suppose there is a niche market for people who are willing to pay extra because they have a small case that won't accomodate 2 cards. But it just seems a little unfair to charge them a premium for what is essentially the same 2 GPUs in a slightly different package.
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There is some more R&D required for this though...so to recoup those costs?
 
RaistlinZ said:
This card is one generation late to the fray. 460's are cheap nowadays. If this card is more than $299.99 it's not that good a value.

They should have put their time toward dual 560 setup.
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I don't understand this card either. Isn't the 104/114 pin compatible? Why would they go with the old revision of the chip when there is a spiffed up "fixed" version of the chip out now? Short supply of 114 chips? Or just a ton of left overs of the 104s?
 
Its a pretty awesome cooler, and I'm sure could be used on more than this model. Much like MSI with its Twin Frzr, Sparkle and ECS use a colored Arctic Cooler hsf etc.
 
Skurge said:
Or that AMD's driver are better at using the CPU.

Showing 90% GPU usage is one thing, we want to know the scaling. Even in the 5870 days. QUADCROSSFIRE scaled better than quad SLI, but it was still poor, the 6990 shows how its done.

EDIT: Where is that 3GB palit, I don't see it on the egg.
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I believe at the time, tri-sli was better than quadfire and quad-sli...therefore no one bothered with it!. Ill have to go find the benchies as it was poor from both camps!
 
Phynaz said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grooveriding
Someone linked us this picture in the 590 rumor thread insisting it a was a GTX 590.. oh... that's right..

Yeah, I wonder if that somebody will point out he wasn't right this time.
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I wouldn't hold your breath! Most likely doesn't realize your punning him 🙂

As far as the card goes it's ugly, and like others have stated is too late to the party!
 
Because it uses 2 8pin there's the possibility it uses 375W. Hopefully, it's just to allow O/C headroom (and the VRM can handle it). If it does use 375W ALL of that heat is going to be dumped inside the case, with that design. The 6990 only dumps ~1/2 it's heat inside the case and there have been reports of pretty substantial temp increases to other components. People REALLY need to consider there case's airflow before getting these "outlaw" (my term) cards.

2x external exhaust reference designs (2x6990/50, 2x460) are a better solution, IMO.
 
SolMiester said:
I believe at the time, tri-sli was better than quadfire and quad-sli...therefore no one bothered with it!. Ill have to go find the benchies as it was poor from both camps!
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You could be right, I might have to have another look.

But yeah, they were both poor, part of the reason was Nvidia added quad SLI support to their drivers basically for people who wanted to break 3Dmark records.

I couldnt find Quad Crossfire vs Quad SLI, but this is the best I can do.

http://translate.google.com/transla...test/&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1
 
Skurge said:
You could be right, I might have to have another look.

But yeah, they were both poor, part of the reason was Nvidia added quad SLI support to their drivers basically for people who wanted to break 3Dmark records.

I couldnt find Quad Crossfire vs Quad SLI, but this is the best I can do.

http://translate.google.com/transla...test/&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1
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Something more modern would be cool 🙂

But looks like ATI scaled better then. The 69xx scales better now. Would make an interesting comparison I'd think.
 
3DVagabond said:
Because it uses 2 8pin there's the possibility it uses 375W. Hopefully, it's just to allow O/C headroom (and the VRM can handle it). If it does use 375W ALL of that heat is going to be dumped inside the case, with that design. The 6990 only dumps ~1/2 it's heat inside the case and there have been reports of pretty substantial temp increases to other components. People REALLY need to consider there case's airflow before getting these "outlaw" (my term) cards.

2x external exhaust reference designs (2x6990/50, 2x460) are a better solution, IMO.
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well technically all that means is that it uses more than 300 watts.
 
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