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eVGA GeForce 5900 Video cards - Are they OK?

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stranger707

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I am thinking about buying the eVGA GeForce 5900 card, not the Ultra model. I looked at Newegg.com and loved their price but I saw a warning **This item is NOT REFUNDABLE, exchange for same exact item only!!**

This made me wonder whether people have had problems with this card. Why would they have this restriction on returning the card?

Does anyone have this card? Has anyone had problems with this card?
 
no there are alot of peices of hardware like that there is ussually just for high priced items. if u plan on buying a bunch of future dx9 games u may want to look at ATI cards first.
 
I really don't want to spend the money for an ATI card. Take a look at the price differential. You can get a 9700 Pro at Newegg for $275, and it's performance lags the basic GeForce 5900 significantly. Tom's Hardware did a roundup of current video cards and the stats don't lie"

ATI 9700 Pro Unreal Tournament 159.1 fps $275
GeForce 5900 Unreal Tournament 176.5 fps $237


Why would you pay that much more for so much less performance????????????
 
Double check the memory speed on that model. Newegg doesn't have that info listed, but on pricewatch it's listed as 400/400. IRC the "official" clock is 400/450 for the non-Ultra.
Also, have you considered the $250 BestBuy 9800?

Edit: Official clock should be 400/425 for non-Ultra's
 
I really don't want to spend the money for an ATI card. Take a look at the price differential. You can get a 9700 Pro at Newegg for $275, and it's performance lags the basic GeForce 5900 significantly. Tom's Hardware did a roundup of current video cards and the stats don't lie"

ATI 9700 Pro Unreal Tournament 159.1 fps $275
GeForce 5900 Unreal Tournament 176.5 fps $237


Why would you pay that much more for so much less performance????????????
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Uh oh. You're gonna need $250 worth of Nomex to keep you from roasting in here! 😛

Cheers!
 
Why would you pay that much more for so much less performance????????????
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I would if it was going to allow me to play future games and like Alkaline5 said the 9800 np is only 250 and can OC a bunch as well
 
Thanks, but the 9800 doesn't come close either.

ATI 9800 Pro Unreal Tournament 170.6 fps $306
GeForce 5900 Unreal Tournament 176.5 fps $237

I realize that I may be tweaking a bunch of ATI fans, but $/performance just aint there for ATI.

And shuttleteam, Nomex is only required for the GeForce 5800.
 
Come on guys, I am trying to find out if anyone has any experience with GeForce 5900 cards from eVGA.

You are not gonna convert me to an ATI user with their sub par performance per $$$ figures.
 
Originally posted by: stranger707
Thanks, but the 9800 doesn't come close either.

ATI 9800 Pro Unreal Tournament 170.6 fps $306
GeForce 5900 Unreal Tournament 176.5 fps $237

I realize that I may be tweaking a bunch of ATI fans, but $/performance just aint there for ATI.

And shuttleteam, Nomex is only required for the GeForce 5800.
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I'm a bigger nvidia fan than you, TRUST ME. But the fact of the matter is. UT is breathing it's last, while it was one of the most licensed engines ever.... It's time is over. UT2004 is almost done.... And HL2's engine will certainly dominate the market in the coming months. It would be silly not to look ahead when buying a video card today. In less than a month, there will be games out that may well be unplayable on a 5900... But they will work fine on a 9800 Pro.

For you, I would recommend going the extra 15 bucks and getting an ATI Radeon 9800 Non-Pro. From bestbuy for $250. Can't beat it.
 
But the fact of the matter is. UT is breathing it's last, while it was one of the most licensed engines ever.... It's time is over. UT2004 is almost done.... And HL2's engine will certainly dominate the market in the coming months.
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Umm, first it will take atleast a year before you will start seeing other games built on the HL2 engine. In fact, I think Valve stated in one of there QA sessions that they are still working out the details on licensing the engine. Also, there are alot of great games scheduled to be released within the next several months that use the UT 2003 engine. Deus Ex 2 for one. It's an excellent engine and far from being dated. You will be seeing games with that engine for quite awhile.
 
But the fact is, as it stands the 5900 can't stand up in DX9.... And there's really no point in buying a 5900 that does the same in DX8 as a radeon 9800, but then does half as well in dx9 as the radeon 9800. There's really no way around it, and I looked, HARD, for weeks. 🙁
 
Based off of Anandtech 9800TX vs NV38 review, where he used the beta Den 51.xx drivers, several DX9 games (Aquamark3 and Halo) ran within several FPS of the 9800.

Aquamark3

Halo

Also, you have to realize the 5900 has only been out for a few months. You will and are already seeing great improvements in driver optimizations on DX9 games. I'm not worried in the least bit about HL2. I will guarantee you when HL2 finally comes out, the 5900 will have no problems running it without image degradation.
 
Yes, but also keep in mind that NV35 is NOT NV38. Nv38 kept up w/ the 9800 because it has actual optimizations done to the hardware.

Although I do agree, the 5900 will probably run HL2 fine, without image quality degradation. But I KNOW the 9800 will run it fine, and I just couldn't take that gamble when we're talking about a $400 video card.
 
Nebor,
I think your confused. The NV38 is the exact same card as the NV35, but with a speed increase (i.e. 450/450 to 475/475). There are no hardware optimizations in the NV38. Also the eVga 5900 for which stranger707 is talking about, is only $237 and not $400. Both the 5900 and the 9800 are great cards. You really aren't going to go wrong buying either card.
 
The NV38 DOES have minor hardware changes, as reported by the inquirer. Read the post about R360 and NV38, it's 3 pages long and we went over that.

Well, when I said choosing between $400 video cards, I mean the GFX 5900 Ultra and Radeon 9800 Pro (Actually more like $300-400.) But a 9800 Non-pro can be had for about the same price as a GFX 5900 Non-Ultra. Plus they say the 9800 NP turns into a Pro reeaaaaal easy.

I was a bigger nvidia fan than you, but they fubared the FX series. It's obvious.
 
Ok, I guess the first question you have to ask yourself is does the card run all games (i.e. DX7, DX8, DX9) extremely fast and is the image quality good. For both the 9800 and the 5900 the answer is yes. Do software developers have to right special code to run the FX series better? Yup. Do I care? Nope. That's why I pay $60 for a game. So, I don't see the FX series as being fubared. It plays EVERY game I want EXTREMELY fast and looks killer. If that's fubared, then your right.
 
You must be smoking something to get a 5900FX over a 9800NP.🙂


THe 9800NP can be easily modded to run 9800 PRO speeds where it is considerably faster than the 5900FX at its own "meant to be played" games.
 
Show me one DX9 game that it plays extremely fast? Tomb Raider kills it, Tron 2.0 kills it, Shader Mark kills it, AquaMark kills it.... Well?
 
I never thought that I'd ever say this, but Nebor is totally, wholly right on this one. Det 50 drivers don't mean a thing if they can't even render fog correctly, I don't care how big of a speed boost they give.
 
Dude, what planet are you on?

9800XT vs 5900

Read the article. There are TONS of DX9 benchmarks with the 5900. Funny, in several of them the 9800 is getting owned by the 5900. Check it out.

THe 9800NP can be easily modded to run 9800 PRO speeds where it is considerably faster than the 5900FX at its own "meant to be played" games.
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Good one, you must be on another planet too.
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Try looking at the benchmarks in the above link. Your 9800 is getting spanked in several benchmarks.
 
Sorry, the 5900 isn't in that review. And in most of those benchies, the 5900 ULTRA is a few FPS behind the competition.
 
Yea, so what your saying is there are no issues with DX9. Go ahead its ok. Umm, so 1 fps makes the 5900 sucks. Jeez. If the 5900 smoked the 9800 by 100 fps you'd still whine it aint enough.
 
I'll only say one thing: do NOT purchase an expensive new video card solely because of benchmark results in one game, especially not from Tom's Hardware. I think doing that would be a huge mistake. Look around at other reviews from other sites, and I think you'll find that the 9800 will likely give you far more performance for your dollar.
 
I'll let the article speak for itself. If you don't like the results. Then don't buy the card. If you think ATI doesn't have any issues with the 9800 *cough AF cough*, your a fool. As for the comment about the fog, do you think that can't be fixed in the drivers? Funny, when I was play GTA with my ATI 8500 it had HORRIBLE fog issues. Damn I better sell it quick, the card is junk. Oh wait, they fixed it with a patch. :disgust:
 
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