Idk, if I was in the same situation I'm confident I would've gotten satisfaction without having to post on a message board. His position was that he should have a full RMA under warranty. Their position was that they couldn't do that under their policy. He didn't make any attempts to reach a reasonable compromise and they didn't offer one, so he kept getting the same answer. At the very least, could put a "RESOLVED" in there.
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Well there's a good and a bad to this whole story:
The good: it didn't take a class-action lawsuit to get evga to do something, and the OP won't have to pay a ridiculous price for some bent pins given his situation.
The bad: it took forum-posts at several hardware enthusiast websites to get evga to do something, and it's not the first time I've seen this happen with evga.
Just goes to show that even the more highly regarded companies in hardware pull stupid stunts from time to time. And it doesn't matter if CEO's and upper-management are "pro-customer," if the csr's don't know that policy, then.. well, you read the OP 😉 Remember, not everyone is brave enough to post on forums about this sort of stuff, given the rabid-fanboyism and viral marketers. There are people who're just eating whatever extra cost evga throws at em.
...and they didn't offer one. Evga really holds all the cards in this sort of situation, though the OP has the ace up his sleave of a CC charge-back. They knew they could repair it for significantly less cost to the OP, but they didn't mention it until forum-posts were made and jakup (or whoever) launched an investigation into the matter, and then it got offered by evga. Something is wrong with that... again, at least he didn't have to get lawyers involved 😉
The good: it didn't take a class-action lawsuit to get evga to do something, and the OP won't have to pay a ridiculous price for some bent pins given his situation.
The bad: it took forum-posts at several hardware enthusiast websites to get evga to do something, and it's not the first time I've seen this happen with evga.
Just goes to show that even the more highly regarded companies in hardware pull stupid stunts from time to time. And it doesn't matter if CEO's and upper-management are "pro-customer," if the csr's don't know that policy, then.. well, you read the OP 😉 Remember, not everyone is brave enough to post on forums about this sort of stuff, given the rabid-fanboyism and viral marketers. There are people who're just eating whatever extra cost evga throws at em.
...and they didn't offer one. Evga really holds all the cards in this sort of situation, though the OP has the ace up his sleave of a CC charge-back. They knew they could repair it for significantly less cost to the OP, but they didn't mention it until forum-posts were made and jakup (or whoever) launched an investigation into the matter, and then it got offered by evga. Something is wrong with that... again, at least he didn't have to get lawyers involved 😉
hardcandy2
Senior member
Why would lawyers get involved? It was at the most $299 which is small claims court. The lawyer would have charged that much.
EVGA said the cpu protective cover was in place when they recieved it. This pretty much rules out shipping damage.
We will never know if the OP is correct in saying the pins were fine when he shipped the board. A screwdriver/Heatsink/etc could have slipped and damaged the pins. EVGA's shipping could have damaged the pins after taking the cover off. Who knows what happened?
I have seen other folks post about every company doing business and how they were unsatisfied one way or another with the service provided.
I give credit to EVGA for a resolution. I also feel a letter or other communication by the OP may have taken longer but also gotten the same result.
I would hate to see various forums filled with other posts about dissatisfaction of other companies and their services.
EVGA said the cpu protective cover was in place when they recieved it. This pretty much rules out shipping damage.
We will never know if the OP is correct in saying the pins were fine when he shipped the board. A screwdriver/Heatsink/etc could have slipped and damaged the pins. EVGA's shipping could have damaged the pins after taking the cover off. Who knows what happened?
I have seen other folks post about every company doing business and how they were unsatisfied one way or another with the service provided.
I give credit to EVGA for a resolution. I also feel a letter or other communication by the OP may have taken longer but also gotten the same result.
I would hate to see various forums filled with other posts about dissatisfaction of other companies and their services.
As Jakup indicated, they didn't currently have a provision to charge for repairs. I'm 99% sure EVGA doesn't make their own boards, like they don't make their own video cards unlike a company like Asus or Abit that does. They just purchase reference products to certain specifications from the companies that do fab the PCBs. They may or may not have techs that can repair products or even stock repair parts; realistically they probably just keep new stock on-hand for RMAs.
However, the OP was in a position to speak to someone with the power and authority to make a reasonable exception and as detailed in the OP, no attempt was made by either party. Granted, one of those escalated CS managers/supervisors could've offered a different answer besides "Sorry, you're SOL", but if you've dealt with CS on any level, they're going to tow the company line and follow their policies. The most important thing to realize is that companies aren't a faceless/nameless entity; there's real people behind every logo and although they have to follow policy they do have the ability to reason, unlike a machine.
bob4432
Lifer
personally i believe the op to be a lot more patient then i would have. i would have done a charge back on my cc if evga wanted to give it to me up the a$$ for a defective product. i wouldn't have wasted the time the op has with said company, plain and simple. sadly this thread and the others the op started are what got evga to make amends with the op, not them just being nice, it took some of the net reality to get the job done.
if any one is at fault here it is evga for letting it get to this level, not the op - he was getting shafted hard and had no other outlet.
in a arena as competitive as m/bs, the companies need to actually take care of their customers, if not there are 5 other manf that offer the same features for probably close to the same price, so the company should be honored and appreciative of the customers they get, because usually once you have one customer, they will buy other products from you and everybody knows it is easier and cheaper to keep old customer than to get new ones.
if any one is at fault here it is evga for letting it get to this level, not the op - he was getting shafted hard and had no other outlet.
in a arena as competitive as m/bs, the companies need to actually take care of their customers, if not there are 5 other manf that offer the same features for probably close to the same price, so the company should be honored and appreciative of the customers they get, because usually once you have one customer, they will buy other products from you and everybody knows it is easier and cheaper to keep old customer than to get new ones.
vhx
Golden Member
The only problem I saw here is that they tried to charge him full price for the damaged board. They were following policy, which every company does. Whether you get shafted or not has nothing to do with them being evil or bad at customer satisfaction. The fact they even attempted to resolve your problem shows they have good customer service. There are horror stories for EVERY SINGLE COMPANY. EVGA is still one of the best. Also, I take every complaint with a grain of salt with the whole 'I didn't do it' routine. Although I'm not pointing a finger at the OP, there is little point to EVGA scamming a RMA.
I have seen my share of claims that people have posted to get problems resolved on EVGA forums. Instance: Someone threw a fit after his RMA was rejected. Everyone was on his side, bashing EVGA saying customer service sucks, etc. etc. Turns out the customer took a 6800 and put a 7900GT S/N sticker on it to try to get the 6800 replaced with a 7900GT. Then tried to claim UPS or whatever opened the package, took his old card, replaced it, switched the sticker, and sent it where it was suppose to go. (What are the odds)
The point is, even if you damage to the board, why would you fess up? Especially with $250 as a stake.
I have seen my share of claims that people have posted to get problems resolved on EVGA forums. Instance: Someone threw a fit after his RMA was rejected. Everyone was on his side, bashing EVGA saying customer service sucks, etc. etc. Turns out the customer took a 6800 and put a 7900GT S/N sticker on it to try to get the 6800 replaced with a 7900GT. Then tried to claim UPS or whatever opened the package, took his old card, replaced it, switched the sticker, and sent it where it was suppose to go. (What are the odds)
The point is, even if you damage to the board, why would you fess up? Especially with $250 as a stake.
For the RP looking for me to post pics, I loaned my digital camera to my daughter, she is out of town, but I will post pics asap. BTW, don't you think it kinda (non-thorough) that evga is saying that 2 pins are missing or very bent. If they had really looked close they would have been able to see that the pins are just bent down, not totally missing. Yet, they claim they are totally missing. Ill post pics soon.
crispy2010
Platinum Member
Wait a second, they stated they sent you pics, you have the board now?
No, the y did not send me any pics, they sent the motherboard back to me. Plus, they told me that I had 14 days from the time they sent the bad board back to me before they would charge me $299 for the new motherboard; However, I just checked m y bank account today, and they have already charged me the $299, 3 days after they rejected the RMA, what happened to the 14 days?
Alot of other people have had good experience with them... I went through 4 rmas with them. For some reason every 6600gt I got would not even boot. Paid 1 way shipping on the first one, they paid for next day air both ways on all the other 3 rmas. Ended up giving me a 6800 without charging me anything. I was very pleased, definately going to buy from them again.
bob4432
Lifer
if what you are saying is true, and it appears to be since evga is on here agreeing there are issues with this, i would contact the cc company about that charge. they seem to be telling you one thing and doing another which probably means too many people are handling this problem but they only need 1 to do it correctly....:thumbsdown:
You got 4 bad products and you'd still buy from them? That's freaking pathetic. It's amazing that customers will allow themselves to be walked on these days.
You think they are great because they gave you an upgrade. But you don't mind that it's apparent they didn't test any of the 4 previous cards and that from your own experience they have a 20% Quality rating for their cards? Yikes.
No wonder companies walk on customers. They just take it!
I'll be brutally honest....I have an EVGA 7900 GT KO, but I'll be damn if a company screwed me over 4 times before I got a good product.
I like my card and I'm happy with it, but I'm no fanboy of any product. Give me something that works and is stable/solid. That's all that ultimately matters.
The company is out to do one thing...make money. Don't ever let them walk on you. Take your business elsewhere.
Imyourzero
Diamond Member
I don't know, I can see it both ways. On one hand, there are a lot of satisfied EVGA customers on this board and most people seem to be very happy with their products. I think getting 4 bad cards in a row from ANY company is extremely bad luck and most likely an isolated incident. Who knows, maybe there was some rare incompatibility with his mobo and that particular card...that doesn't mean EVGA sucks. And for the record I've never owned an EVGA product in my life, so I'm no fanboi.
OTOH, there are other video card companies that make great products as well and it certainly wouldn't hurt to consider them. Several people have spoken up against them lately and if their service or quality is going downhill then people need to know about it.
File a complaint with the Attorney General's office. EVGA will be contacted by letter regarding your complaint and will have the oppprtunity to explain their position. A complaint file will be generated if one does not already exist.
http://ag.ca.gov/
http://ag.ca.gov/
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