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EVGA 9600GT SuperClocked for only $169

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Originally posted by: ibex333
Why would anyone in their right mind buy this card, when for $30 more, they can buy a 512mb 8800 GT?

Maybe you want a good card, and want to save $30? My wife doesn't hard core game, so it's not a bad investment for her machine.
 
Originally posted by: slag
Originally posted by: superHARD
Originally posted by: slag
fwiw, remember that the 9x series of nvidia cards also use direct x 10, whereas 8xxx series uses dx 9.x

uhh...my 8800gt512 is dx10...

I stand corrected. I was told by a guy at work who has one that the only downfall to it was that its a dx9 card.

Thanks for the clarification. I'm still using a 7600 gt.

I believe there was news about dx10.1 or something a while ago. Wonder if the new 9xxx cards support it.
 
Originally posted by: BIGFOOTPI
Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
(Quote)

NVIDIA's 8-series will go end of life in about 4 months. All cards will be replaced by 9-series cards.The 8800GTS / GTX is going to be replaced by an 9800GTX in Q2. The very well received 8800GT will also go end of life in Q2 and will be replaced by a 9800GT, which is just a retagged 8800GT. Also the lower and midrange cards will be replaced.
We end up with the following list:

* 9800GX2 (March 11th)
* 8800GTS / GTX -> 9800GTX (Q2)
* 8800GT -> 9800GT (Q2)
* 9600GT (Released)
* 8600GTS -> 9600GS (Q2/Q3)
* 8600GT -> 9500GT (Q2/Q3)
* 8500GT -> 9500GS (Q2/Q3)

http://phyxion.net/hardware/ne...neup-and-eol-news.html

That is horribly lame/
Fake next gen cards series FTL

It sucks for the high end, but the midrange is seeing some long overdue performance leaps we haven't really seen since the days of the 6600GT or Radeon 9500Pro. In the end it brings higher end gaming to more and more people which is a good thing in the long run as more capable platforms amongst the masses should help encourage PC game production.
 
As far as the DirX 10/10.1 support questions, the back and forth on the comments on this neowin post gives a bit of real world insight
http://www.neowin.net/news/mai...-requires-new-hardware
Those of you who have actually updated manually (the proceedure without the probs) your Vista to SP1, you can check to see if you now have DirX 10.1 by typing dxdiag in command prompt

On the higher end of the 9600GT release is the upcoming MSI with 1GB VRam and 700 core
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comm...shownews=18308&catid=2
Not to be outdone by nvidia is the sapphire 3870 toxic with an 800 core and crazy GDDR4 2300GHZ memory
(prob rather expensive)
http://www.vr-zone.com/article...D_3870_TOXIC/5580.html
 
The G92 is still a better card for now, but this is sure an interesting price-point for a card just slightly less powerful than an 8800GT. I'd say this is the best price for the 9600 to 8800GTX range, though still the slowest of the bunch.
 
Originally posted by: slag
fwiw, remember that the 9x series of nvidia cards also use direct x 10, whereas 8xxx series uses dx 9.x

Misinformation ftw!

No, the 8xxx series is DX10 as well. The 9xxx series is just a re-iteration of the 8xxx series, and afiak, doesn't even support DX10.1 at this point.
 
I just want some shorter length cards that can fit in smaller cases. It's the only reason I'm stuck with 8600gt sized cards and below.
 
Are you on drugs or something? At least on the supplied review link in this thread at HERE
the 3870 doesn't beat the 9600GT in ANY benchmarks yet you claim its faster in most situations. Are you a AMD FANBOI? I would agree though that the 8800 GT is the better deal at under $200.


Originally posted by: Extelleron
Originally posted by: BBock727
Originally posted by: Extelleron
Good deal for the 9600GT.

There are definately better deals, though:

HD 3870 @ $179.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814140087
Or even better, overclocked dual-slot 8800GT for $199.99 AR: http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814127329

i guess you havnt read any of the benchmarks?

I've read all of the benchmarks.

HD 3870 is faster than the 9600GT in most situations although the two are pretty close.

8800GT is a much faster card. For $30 more it's a no brainer.

 
Originally posted by: ibex333
Why would anyone in their right mind buy this card, when for $30 more, they can buy a 512mb 8800 GT?
Worse yet, the 8800 GT is being found at the price point it was supposed to sell at originally (like $184.xx according to that review).

That review also appeared to neglect to discuss the performance of the part at stock clocks.
 
Are you on drugs or something? At least on the supplied review link in this article at Anandtech, the 3870 wins 7 benchmarks while the 9600 GT wins 5. Are you an nVidia FANBOI? I would agree, though, that the 9600 is significantly faster in two specific games which was attributed to driver issues most likely, but outside CoD4 and Quake Wars, it's almost a tossup which is better.





Originally posted by: dirtrat
Are you on drugs or something? At least on the supplied review link in this thread at HERE
the 3870 doesn't beat the 9600GT in ANY benchmarks yet you claim its faster in most situations. Are you a AMD FANBOI? I would agree though that the 8800 GT is the better deal at under $200.


Originally posted by: Extelleron
Originally posted by: BBock727
Originally posted by: Extelleron
Good deal for the 9600GT.

There are definately better deals, though:

HD 3870 @ $179.99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814140087
Or even better, overclocked dual-slot 8800GT for $199.99 AR: http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814127329

i guess you havnt read any of the benchmarks?

I've read all of the benchmarks.

HD 3870 is faster than the 9600GT in most situations although the two are pretty close.

8800GT is a much faster card. For $30 more it's a no brainer.

 
Originally posted by: HardWired
I guess I'm not that familiar with this site. Is it like The Onion?

If not, this isn't good news for 9600GT buyers:

9600GT Recalled

No, this site is not like The Onion. Although both are fake news, The Onion is purposely fake and funny. The Inquirer is wishfully true and unfunny. 😛

I find The Inquirer to be right about half the time, which doesn't necessarily translate to flipping a coin as they do make specific predictions and not just (e.g. Nvidia will come out with a card that is faster than ATI's, which would just be a toss-up) broad, generic claims.

What I can tell you from that article is a lot of their information seems to be half truths and hyperbole. The poor writing and the silly Nvidia lineup compared to ATI's should be a big clue into the intent of the article.

Anywho, it is interesting to see that Nvidia might have some problems with their 9xxx lineup, but always stay skeptical about Inquirer articles.
 
Simple way to chose:

If you do any gaming with NEW games on a resolution over 1600x1200, shell $20 and get the 8800GT
Most reviews don't have the 9600GT using AA and on resolutions over 1600,1200.

If you game under 1600x1200 get the 9600GT. If you have a monitor that does over 1600x1200 you should have no qualms over shelling out $20 more dollars on a video card.

 
Originally posted by: daftpunkit
Simple way to chose:

If you do any gaming with NEW games on a resolution over 1600x1200, shell $20 and get the 8800GT
Most reviews don't have the 9600GT using AA and on resolutions over 1600,1200.

If you game under 1600x1200 get the 9600GT. If you have a monitor that does over 1600x1200 you should have no qualms over shelling out $20 more dollars on a video card.

the only difference between an 8800gt and a 9600gt is shader procesors


the ROP count is the same. AA is all about raster processors. so the "hit" should be the same for AA.

the only reason to buy a 8800gt over a 9600gt is shader heavy games, or maybe ones with physics if nvidia releases a driver that supports ageia in the shader processors. if you use your card for HPC or something and not graphics obviously that 8800gt woudl be better too.

I think its more than $20 difference anyway. probably more like $40
 
I am in the market for a upgrade from a 7600gt.

The 8800gt is a very nice card but has some heat issues, the 9600 is still too new and not a cheap enough yet to represent a big enough price/performance upgrade.
 
Originally posted by: frankie38
I am in the market for a upgrade from a 7600gt.

The 8800gt is a very nice card but has some heat issues, the 9600 is still too new and not a cheap enough yet to represent a big enough price/performance upgrade.

ATi 3870 then?
 
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