eVGA 6800U Extreme on AT

[Killrose]

True, the 9700pro is still uber capable at "lower" 1024x768 resolutions with all the eye candy. TNT2 was a bad example, but was just to push a point, that at some of those settings used, it was sadly struggling to keep going.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: gururu

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: gururu
the pro right now is 19 dollars more than the gt. the pro beats it by 15% in farcry with AA/AF. Is that 19 dollars NOT worth it?

If the only game you will ever play is FarCry, it may be worth it. Think bigger.

I am thinking bigger. In fact I'm thinking of the biggest game available now.

Ahh, I see. One sided view.

 

[Insomniak]

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

Originally posted by: gururu
the pro right now is 19 dollars more than the gt. the pro beats it by 15% in farcry with AA/AF. Is that 19 dollars NOT worth it?

no because I don't own farcry, will that $19 be worth it when the 6800GT wipes the floor with the pro in Doom3?

Exactly. Who gives a fart about far cry? I hate that blasted game, and I still fail to see why so many people think it's so good. It's average at best, and frankly I don't think the graphics were any huge leap. When an Unreal Engine 3 game or Doom 3 launches - THAT will be a graphical leap. Far Cry was a tweak.

 

[GeneralGrievous]

What's with the selective memory? It has already been shown to you in another thread not but 2 days ago.

The only benchmarks I've looked at are the ones on the amd forum. More importantly, I've tested it on my own and there is a definite performance increase.

 

[gururu]

Originally posted by: Insomniak

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

Originally posted by: gururu
the pro right now is 19 dollars more than the gt. the pro beats it by 15% in farcry with AA/AF. Is that 19 dollars NOT worth it?

no because I don't own farcry, will that $19 be worth it when the 6800GT wipes the floor with the pro in Doom3?

Exactly. Who gives a fart about far cry? I hate that blasted game, and I still fail to see why so many people think it's so good. It's average at best, and frankly I don't think the graphics were any huge leap. When an Unreal Engine 3 game or Doom 3 launches - THAT will be a graphical leap. Far Cry was a tweak.

you all miss the point. let me just say that I'm not buying anything this generation, so my only bias is that I own a 9700pro, the first ATI card I've ever owned. Anyway, the point is: How relevant are any Doom3, UT3, HL2 forecasts? Its' ridiculous. Farcry, whether you like the game or not, challenges a system just about more than anything out there. And its available now. So why cry over it when people talk about farcry scores. geez, i just wish there was some more objective (or at least trying to be so) views out there. If you already picked up a new gen card, its an uphill battle trying to be objective.
and I could have used UT2k4 with AA/AF as an example too. Next, you'll be saying that AA and AF don't matter.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous

What's with the selective memory? It has already been shown to you in another thread not but 2 days ago.

The only benchmarks I've looked at are the ones on the amd forum. More importantly, I've tested it on my own and there is a definite performance increase.

Yes I know, I have read your posts on your findings. But in that very same thread is what I was referring to.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: gururu

Originally posted by: Insomniak

Originally posted by: nemesismk2

Originally posted by: gururu
the pro right now is 19 dollars more than the gt. the pro beats it by 15% in farcry with AA/AF. Is that 19 dollars NOT worth it?

no because I don't own farcry, will that $19 be worth it when the 6800GT wipes the floor with the pro in Doom3?

Exactly. Who gives a fart about far cry? I hate that blasted game, and I still fail to see why so many people think it's so good. It's average at best, and frankly I don't think the graphics were any huge leap. When an Unreal Engine 3 game or Doom 3 launches - THAT will be a graphical leap. Far Cry was a tweak.

you all miss the point. let me just say that I'm not buying anything this generation, so my only bias is that I own a 9700pro, the first ATI card I've ever owned. Anyway, the point is: How relevant are any Doom3, UT3, HL2 forecasts? Its' ridiculous. Farcry, whether you like the game or not, challenges a system just about more than anything out there. And its available now. So why cry over it when people talk about farcry scores. geez, i just wish there was some more objective (or at least trying to be so) views out there. If you already picked up a new gen card, its an uphill battle trying to be objective.
and I could have used UT2k4 with AA/AF as an example too. Next, you'll be saying that AA and AF don't matter.

I can only say something about one of those games. Doom3 release has been confirmed for August 3rd and they actually have a competition scheduled for Doom3 on August 12th. So, in 3 weeks we will have Doom3. As far as HL2? Who knows if it well ever make it here. And UT3 probably wont be out for 2 gens of vid cards.

Its not that we missed your point. Its that your point is pointless. FarCry is not the only game on my shelf and I bet its not the only one you own as well. So by you saying your thinking bigger and in the same sentence you say your thinking of the biggest game out right now, is kind of contradictory.

 

[gururu]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003


I can only say something about one of those games. Doom3 release has been confirmed for August 3rd and they actually have a competition scheduled for Doom3 on August 12th. So, in 3 weeks we will have Doom3. As far as HL2? Who knows if it well ever make it here. And UT3 probably wont be out for 2 gens of vid cards.

Its not that we missed your point. Its that your point is pointless. FarCry is not the only game on my shelf and I bet its not the only one you own as well. So by you saying your thinking bigger and in the same sentence you say your thinking of the biggest game out right now, is kind of contradictory.

I accept your criticism. I expect you to exercise such criticisms when everyone starts saying that Doom3 is THE only benchmark; whether Nvidia or ATI dominates.

 

[Gamingphreek]

I agree with everyone in here saying that AT should have used the 4.7's. However i do not agree that they should have uses the latest WHQL driver from Nvidia. Nvidia does not release new drivers every month. Therefore if they were to use the 56.64's then the ATI cards would massacre them as the 56.64's dont even have any optimizations for the Gefoce 6 series. That came with the Forceware 6xxx's.
All in all (puts on flame suit) i can see Nvidia winning this round. ATI is on an older architecture wirth little room for improvement by drivers. Nvidia however is on a completely new architecture and therefore has a LONG way to go driver-wise. The mid range however the 6800GT is definately better than the X800Pro. It beats it in most benchmarks, has 4 more pipes, SM 3, and that onboard video encoder thing, all for what like 10$ more. However like i said before i think the highend is still up for grabs right now but in the future i would be willing to bet that Nvidia will pull ahead.
Dont flame thats just my foresite, also i showed both ATI's and Nvidias side so there is not bias. 😛
-Kevin

 

[ronnn]

So I missed this, was Anand caught using old drivers with ATI, while using the newest unproven beta's with Nvidia? 😀

So I expect all the Hcop haters will recognize the inherent bias here and disregard all data from this site.

 

[Acanthus]

But anad didnt go out of his way to make the FX5950 look better than the X800XT at introduction either 😉

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
But anad didnt go out of his way to make the FX5950 look better than the X800XT at introduction either 😉

No, but he did go far out of his way to make Nvidia look much faster than ATI with AA and AF enabled. Only changed it when caught out. Anandtech has a Nvidia bias.......

😉

 

[Gamingphreek]

No they aren't. If they are so Nvidia biased then why the hell would there standard video card be a 9800Pro. Also ya do know everyone makes mistakes. Right? probably just forgot to use the 4.7's. Not that big of a difference.Also he did not use the newest betas from Nvidia. They would be the 61.80's whereas he used the 61.41's. Also it is not like they had a choice, in order to run the Geforce 6 series you have to be using Forceware 6xxx drivers.

-Kevin

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Biggest game? Far crys gameplay is horrible, its like buying a $40 benchmark.

That's your opinion.

Originally posted by: Insomniak


Exactly. Who gives a fart about far cry? I hate that blasted game, and I still fail to see why so many people think it's so good. It's average at best, and frankly I don't think the graphics were any huge leap. When an Unreal Engine 3 game or Doom 3 launches - THAT will be a graphical leap. Far Cry was a tweak.

I'd say a good deal of people give a fart about Farcry. I loved the game, but I don't care about it for benches. I've already beaten it, and I'm not interested in longterm multiplayer gaming with that game. I think it was a graphical leap, IMO.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Far Cry was most definately a large graphical leap. Probably not going to be as good as graphics as Doom or HL2 btu think about it, what was the best engine that we had before the Cry Engine. Probably a heavily modified Quake III engine. I mean what other game do you know that can render 5 miile distances without loading once and look that good. Na dah right now. Im not glorifying Far Cry immensly but you cant deny that is wasn't a graphical leap from what we had before it.

-Kevin