it might be irrelevant to you but a gtx560ti 448sp and 6950 2gb are priced about the same and gtx560ti 448sp is faster than the 6950 2gb overall. and not everybody wants an AMD card for whatever reason.
No, it's not. You're paying $40+ extra for a hotter card with less vRAM. "Not everyone wants an NVIDIA card for whatever reason." If you can't create a good rebuttal, don't bother posting.
who the hell do you think you are telling people what is irrelevant and whether they can post here? you can get either a gtx560 448sp ti cards for 260 bucks range so get off your AMD high horse. if you are only referring to the exact card as the OP then so what because there are also 6950 2gb cards that cost that much or more. and your extra vram means crap becuase the gtx560ti 448sp is FASTER overall than the 6950 2gb.
But it's like buying a Mustang with a V6, isn't it? What's the point of having a GTX 580-equivalent PCB if the GPU is refuse in the first place? What's your greatest hope upon getting this card, that you can overclock it to GTX 580 performance? That's my point - 6950 can do the same, for less, with more vRAM, and better power usage numbers. What's the argument to pay $40 more for this card?
If you disagree with a point I made, figure out how to write a proper rebuttal and disprove my point/offer a different perspective. If you can't properly engage in discussion/debate, I'm not going to waste my time with your ad hominem nonsense. I'll offer you the same proposition as I did Hauk - what's the argument for getting this over a 6950 2GB? Or any GTX 560 Ti 448 for that matter? I've already offered my view, all you did was get upset and personally attack me. The cards are virtually identical in performance: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/293?vs=499 . They trade blows in most games, the exception being Civ V, which has the advantage of MTR for NVIDIA GPUs.who the hell do you think you are telling people what is irrelevant and whether they can post here? you can get either a gtx560 448sp ti cards for 250-260 bucks so get off your AMD high horse. if you are only referring to the exact card as the OP then so what because there are also 6950 2gb cards that cost that much or more. and your extra vram means crap becuase the gtx560ti 448sp is FASTER overall than the 6950 2gb.
your only view was that the card was irreverent which is ignorant.
And you haven't rebutted that, or explained why one would pay $40 more for such a card (and if no one would, then it is quite irrelevant, isn't it?). So then, are you ignorant as well for ignoring the question and going straight for the personal attack?
I never argued that there was a price/performance advantage for a 6950 2GB vs. a vanilla GTX 560Ti 448. Is this you, ironically, being irrelevant?
No it's not, I just clearly linked to a set of benchmarks which show the cards trading blows, so that's incorrect. Furthermore, this is an enthusiast's site, anyone knows how to and can overclock. So once again, you're, ironically, being irrelevant.
No, you didn't say any of that, you stated "not everyone wants an AMD card for whatever reason," which is quite different. Does that mean your only disagreement was that I offered an AMD card as an alternative? Funny that that's what irked you the most, interesting to see what your true intentions were here.
Bang-for-your-buck is in the eye of the beholder. I've already offered my point of view, to summarize - the 6950 is offering the same performance, with better power usage, and more vRAM, for much less than the card in the OP, and the same or less than a vanilla GTX 560 Ti 448. All you've done is personally attacked me in multiple posts and offered no rebuttal. Who was here to "stir up crap" again?
lol so you are going to tell me that the what I said about a review on techpowerup is incorrect because you link to another review from a different site? well here you go Mr. troll. the Zotac gtx560ti 448sp comes clocked at 765 which is only 5% faster than stock and beats the 6950 by 11% at 1920. so that means even a stock gtx560ti 448sp would be slightly faster than a stock 6950 gb. again though MOST gtx560ti 448sp cards already come slightly oced.
Well, this is Anandtech forums, I'd assume we're posting here because we hold their reviews in high regard, but I guess my assumption on your part was incorrect.
Why didn't you just link to a stock clocked GTX 560 Ti 448? http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_560_Ti_448_Cores_DirectCU_II/27.html Looks like it's 6% faster at 1200p. Furthermore, do you not understand how average work? For example, Techpowerup uses Civ V in it's suite, where the GTX 560 Ti 448 has a ~50% performance advantage due to MTR. That isn't representative of the average performance of the cards, despite your claiming it to be. But again, nice ad hominem.
So are you insinuating that no one here knows how to overclock a card or just you?and before you say something ignorant about the Zotac being expensive, the point was to show you the performance. there is a $269 EVGA gtx560ti model on newegg that comes clocked at 797. that means for 15 bucks more than the cheapest 6950 2gb card you would have a card that beats it by around 15%.
Is that not what it is? Companies create these cards to use up the stock of flagship GPU's that couldn't be used otherwise. In this case, you have a GPU that didn't meet specs for a GTX 580 or even a GTX 570, so a new series was created later to turn these stockpiles of unused chips into money.
And you didn't answer any of the questions posed, so if your conclusion is "I just like this card" and you're satisfied with it, then I'm satisfied with irrefutably proving that it's a poor value.It's fully functional, oc's well, and is available on a full bore GTX 580 PCB for $289. To those not trying to diminish it's value, seems like a nice card [is all I'm sayin]. Others can argue it's value against the competition. Enjoy..
You realize you can unlock and overclock any 6950 2GB and get GTX 580 performance as well, right? And it's still cheaper, will use less power, and have more vRAM than the GTX 560 448. So yes, the GTX 560 Ti 448 is still irrelevant.
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