Every Windows 10 Update is a New Disaster

[Lee Saxon]

I don't care if an exploit is developed which causes laptops to grow legs, retrieve knives, and murder their owners. I don't care if my mother gets ALL the spyware (Windows 10 is already just spyware). Literally every single forced update (of which switching to Windows 10 itself was one) screws up my mother's computer and has her calling me screaming. Now it is stuck on an endless loop of "Choose your keyboard, now choose another operating system or fail to do a start-up repair." It's something else every time. Last time they completely rearranged all the options in her Word and Excel for absolutely no reason.

Is there seriously no way to stop these %$*($@ forced updates?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Be a Good Son, and Get her a Mac.

Edit: As mentioned below, I guess try Linux Mint for her? She'll have to get used to updated that, too.

 

[whm1974]

Be a Good Son, and Get her a Mac.

No, a good son would install Linux instead of spending money when not needed.

 

[mxnerd]

Windows 10 forced update just screwed my laptop last week, had to do system files repair.

Install Linux Mint / KDE Linux for her, or get her a mini Android PC.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I just built my mom a new windows 10 pc last week and it works like a charm and we haven't had a bad update since the original version was released. Have you tried running the windows file checker to see if any system files are corrupted? Next would be use a registry repair utility to clear out bad entries.

Penguins belong in their native habitat not on any of my desktops.

 

[Chaotic42]

They always mess up my sound settings for some reason.

 

[Skunk-Works]

Try the program Shutup 10.

I have my parents use Win 7. The hell with 10 and their crap! Besides, all they do is surf the Internet and print crap. I have it pretty well locked down. Ideally, they could use Mint, but I'm not too Linux smart and don't want to mess with it, and if there's an issue I won't know how to fix it. Bad enough I'm trying to learn CentOS. What a nightmare of constant Googling and going to Stackexchange just to find out what flipping command I need to enter. sudo get a real easy GUI damn it. The command line suxx!

 

[bbhaag]

I swear people on this board seem to have more issues with Win10. I've been running Win10 since it was in beta and haven't had any issues with it. Did the free upgrade a few years ago on all the pc's in the house and never have issues. Five pc's all humming along fine with Win10 at the helm.

And for the record I would recommend against installing Linux or any of its variants on your moms computer. I can't even in good faith recommend Linux Mint which is the pride of the fleet. Sudo this and sudo that and adding ppa's to get programs that aren't in the official libraries which are horribly outdated btw. Googling an issue only to think you have found a solution but when you copy and paste the syntax into the terminal it does something but not what you wanted. Good luck trying to find out how to undo what you just did.
Uggg...putting Linux on a moms pc is a terrible idea.

 

[Alpha One Seven]

I don't care if an exploit is developed which causes laptops to grow legs, retrieve knives, and murder their owners. I don't care if my mother gets ALL the spyware (Windows 10 is already just spyware). Literally every single forced update (of which switching to Windows 10 itself was one) screws up my mother's computer and has her calling me screaming. Now it is stuck on an endless loop of "Choose your keyboard, now choose another operating system or fail to do a start-up repair." It's something else every time. Last time they completely rearranged all the options in her Word and Excel for absolutely no reason.

Is there seriously no way to stop these %$*($@ forced updates?

I have never had any issues on any of my W10 systems, what is she doing, shutting it off when it says, "Do not turn off your computer" due to misreading it and thinking it says to turn it off?

 

[Alpha One Seven]

I don't care if an exploit is developed which causes laptops to grow legs, retrieve knives, and murder their owners. I don't care if my mother gets ALL the spyware (Windows 10 is already just spyware). Literally every single forced update (of which switching to Windows 10 itself was one) screws up my mother's computer and has her calling me screaming. Now it is stuck on an endless loop of "Choose your keyboard, now choose another operating system or fail to do a start-up repair." It's something else every time. Last time they completely rearranged all the options in her Word and Excel for absolutely no reason.

Is there seriously no way to stop these %$*($@ forced updates?

Updates can be stopped by downloading an update tool from MS and setting it to not update the files you select.

 

[Skunk-Works]

Good luck trying to find out how to undo what you just did.

Exactly.

 

[Greenman]

I swear people on this board seem to have more issues with Win10. I've been running Win10 since it was in beta and haven't had any issues with it. Did the free upgrade a few years ago on all the pc's in the house and never have issues. Five pc's all humming along fine with Win10 at the helm.

And for the record I would recommend against installing Linux or any of its variants on your moms computer. I can't even in good faith recommend Linux Mint which is the pride of the fleet. Sudo this and sudo that and adding ppa's to get programs that aren't in the official libraries which are horribly outdated btw. Googling an issue only to think you have found a solution but when you copy and paste the syntax into the terminal it does something but not what you wanted. Good luck trying to find out how to undo what you just did.
Uggg...putting Linux on a moms pc is a terrible idea.

I installed mint on my in-laws computer 3 or 4 years back after a long string of windows issues. I've had to go fix it once since then. They are both in their 70's and know nothing about computers.
Everyone that only needs basic computer services should be running Mint. It's easy to install, easy to operate, rock solid and free. I'd run it myself if the cad software I use was available for linux.

 

[mikeymikec]

I don't care if an exploit is developed which causes laptops to grow legs, retrieve knives, and murder their owners. I don't care if my mother gets ALL the spyware (Windows 10 is already just spyware). Literally every single forced update (of which switching to Windows 10 itself was one) screws up my mother's computer and has her calling me screaming. Now it is stuck on an endless loop of "Choose your keyboard, now choose another operating system or fail to do a start-up repair." It's something else every time. Last time they completely rearranged all the options in her Word and Excel for absolutely no reason.

Is there seriously no way to stop these %$*($@ forced updates?

IMO the question you should be asking is why your computer is acting abnormally. While I disagree strongly with MS's update approach with Windows 10, we both know that your use of the term 'literally' was literally hyperbole.

In an attempt to help you answer that question, we need to ask some: does she get any odd symptoms while she uses the computer generally?

 

[WelshBloke]

I installed mint on my in-laws computer 3 or 4 years back after a long string of windows issues. I've had to go fix it once since then. They are both in their 70's and know nothing about computers.
Everyone that only needs basic computer services should be running Mint. It's easy to install, easy to operate, rock solid and free. I'd run it myself if the cad software I use was available for linux.

I just put it on my sons laptop because he said Windows was running slowly and Mint Xfce runs so much faster! He's extremely happy with the performance of blender.

I might look into running it on my desktop and having Windows in a VM.

 

[PingSpike]

If you unplug it from the Internet the updates will almost certainly stop.

 

[bbhaag]

I installed mint on my in-laws computer 3 or 4 years back after a long string of windows issues. I've had to go fix it once since then. They are both in their 70's and know nothing about computers.
Everyone that only needs basic computer services should be running Mint. It's easy to install, easy to operate, rock solid and free. I'd run it myself if the cad software I use was available for linux.

I know what you're saying and I'm delighted that you found a solution that works well for your in-laws who know nothing about computers. I still cannot in good faith recommend an open source OS for moms or wives for that matter. Unlike you my experience has been different and it has taught me that their are many people who are creatures of habit and in my little piece of the world their habit prefers Windows.

 

[PliotronX]

I would install Solus OS or Maui Linux.

 

[lxskllr]

I know what you're saying and I'm delighted that you found a solution that works well for your in-laws who know nothing about computers. I still cannot in good faith recommend an open source OS for moms or wives for that matter. Unlike you my experience has been different and it has taught me that their are many people who are creatures of habit and in my little piece of the world their habit prefers Windows.

My 83yr old mother runs xubuntu, previously ubuntu. When I installed those, my support calls dropped by 99%. Win8-10 is as different from classic windows as any gnu/linux with a "normal" desktop. If you're gonna have to learn something new, you might as well learn something that doesn't spy on you, hardly ever gets viruses, and doesn't inflict its will on the user.

 

[C1]

Also, why in the world do people/agencies who try to market older used/refurbished computers install Windows 10 on them ?

They seem to think that that increases the value of what they are trying to market, but basically that ruins the computer, particularly if they screwed with updating the BIOS.

One of the main reasons why someone wants an older system is so that they can use their existing older/legacy software which, in most cases, will not be compatible with 10.

 

[se7enth.tribal.j]

IT IS INEVITABLE THAT WINDOWS 10 IS A COMPUTER KILLER!!! (DO NOT USE A COMPUTER WITH THIS OPERATING SYSTEM INSTALLED IN IT OR YOU WILL HAVE TO BUY A NEW COMPUTER, GUARANTEED....)
Windows 10 forced updates has just destroyed my second laptop in a row.......... my first was a Dell Inspiron, my second was an Asus Q524uq. Is it true that I could buy a new laptop (with a 6th generation or older core processor), freshly install a brand new copy of Windows 7 (totally erasing Windows 10 from the hard drive)?
WELL TO BE HONEST THAT IS THE ONLY WAY, TRULY TO AVOID THESE TYPES OF COMPLICATIONS.......(WITH WINDOWS "FORCED UPDATES"- getting them to buy yet more computer products and services).

FORCING SOMEONE TO UPDATE THEIR COMPUTER IS THE WORST IDEA THAT MICROSOFT COULD EVER COME UP WITH IN RELATION TO MAINTENANCE OF THEIR OPERATING SYSTEMS. THEY ARE ABOUT TO LOSE ONE FIFTH OF THEIR CUSTOMER BASE BECAUSE OF THAT ALONE....

(Fortune to be told.....Ubuntu is in your future)

 

[Puffnstuff]

I love windows 10 even when it misbehaves.

 

[Ketchup]

.....THEY ARE ABOUT TO LOSE ONE FIFTH OF THEIR CUSTOMER BASE BECAUSE OF THAT ALONE....

Well, Microsoft has a couple more than five customers, so there's that....

 

[JackTheBear]

It's really a crap shoot whether Windows Update works right or not. Between me, the wife, and the kids, we've got 7 different desktops and laptops running windows 10. Some of them never have an issue. Some of them have an issue almost every time, but there is nothing wrong with the hardware. One of my trouble makers is a core 2 quad desktop - it works great, it's just old, and Windows 10 will not auto update. The updates either fail, or I come back to a black screen and the computer won't wake up. But I also have a Dell core 2 duo laptop that never has any issues with updates, so it's not just old hardware doesn't work - sometimes it works fine. I don't really know what causes the issues except some builds just don't update right.

 

[RLGL]

IT IS INEVITABLE THAT WINDOWS 10 IS A COMPUTER KILLER!!! (DO NOT USE A COMPUTER WITH THIS OPERATING SYSTEM INSTALLED IN IT OR YOU WILL HAVE TO BUY A NEW COMPUTER, GUARANTEED....)
Windows 10 forced updates has just destroyed my second laptop in a row.......... my first was a Dell Inspiron, my second was an Asus Q524uq. Is it true that I could buy a new laptop (with a 6th generation or older core processor), freshly install a brand new copy of Windows 7 (totally erasing Windows 10 from the hard drive)?
WELL TO BE HONEST THAT IS THE ONLY WAY, TRULY TO AVOID THESE TYPES OF COMPLICATIONS.......(WITH WINDOWS "FORCED UPDATES"-you know another way to anal rape the consumer, getting them to buy yet more computer products and services).

FORCING SOMEONE TO UPDATE THEIR COMPUTER IS THE WORST IDEA THAT MICROSOFT COULD EVER COME UP WITH IN RELATION TO MAINTENANCE OF THEIR OPERATING SYSTEMS. THEY ARE ABOUT TO LOSE ONE FIFTH OF THEIR CUSTOMER BASE BECAUSE OF THAT ALONE....

(Fortune to be told.....Ubuntu is in your future)

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[dave_the_nerd]

Yeah... it's been working fine for me since release too, at home on my carefully maintained desktop.

My team at work admins about 200 windows VMs (2k8, 2k12, and 2k16) among other things. Every few months, one of them will just stop installing updates right. System gets borked up, often they won't shutdown gracefully or reboot either. Sometimes it's fixable, sometimes it's not. Never bothered doing a root cause, since it's one or two a year, and we have VM templates for a reason.

But it's a very small percentage of the total number of systems.

And in all honesty, we have a nonzero number of Linux systems (fewer - maybe one a year - but nonzero) that crap themselves from an update too.