EverQuest I Questions

[bpatters69]

I am an 8th level ShadowKnight. I am one of the Lizard people. Iks-something? Anyway, I am in a town called Calibis and I have talked to all the NPC that I can find to learn about the game, quests, etc. One of the things I have found out about is tasks. I am told that I can get tasks from Task Masters. I talked to all of the Task Masters but none would give me any quests. I did go to the ShadowKnight guild and I talked to Guild Masters. The Guild Masters gave me laundry lists of items that they needed to give me training, armor and weapons. Do Guild Masters assign tasks vs Task Masters?

Also, one of the options at start up is to go to the home world. I thought about going to the home world but the computer asks me "if I am sure" which makes me wonder, if going to the home world has some negative ramifications.

Lastly, somewhere in my reading\experimenting, I learned that I am not a member of any guild. Shouldn't I be a member of the Shadow Master guild?

I downloaded the trial, 7 day program which only gives me access to one server.

Any comments and tips are appreciated.

Thanks, Bill

 

[Schadenfroh]

Lastly, somewhere in my reading\experimenting, I learned that I am not a member of any guild. Shouldn't I be a member of the Shadow Master guild?

A player guild is what you are thinking of, differant from the guild you are in. If it is anything like in EQ2 the guild you are in is called a guild but is classified as a "society".

Iks-something?

Iksar

 

[Gurck]

Are you sure you're in Cabilis? I quit the game almost a year and a half back, and was high level regardless, but I seem to remember something about newbies no longer starting in their hometown (which for the Iksar, is Cabilis), but rather in a centralized starting area for all races. I'd think going to your 'home world' would mean going to the Iksar town Cabilis. At any rate, it's not as sophisticated as WoW's quest system; most quests consist of an NPC telling you what he needs. You can collect the items without even having spoken to him, bring them and get the quest reward.

A word of advice? EQ was a beautiful, immersive adventurous game. The guy responsible for that and much of his staff left years ago out of disgust with Sony, and are now Sigil Games, which is working on Vanguard, expected out in possibly late '06 or early '07. Since his departure Sony has utterly raped Norrath in pursuit of the almighty dollar, and largely ruined it. My advice is, if you're a casual gamer and/or love PvP (and I do mean LOVE PvP), try out WoW. The magic of EQ is gone, systematically murdered by Sony. If you like WoW, try Vanguard when it's released.

 

[jdport]

you don't even have to like PvP to like WoW
I am not at all into pvp in MMORPG's and I love WoW. I played EQ for many years, but the game is truly on the way out now.
As for SOE destroying EQ, I wouldn't really agree with that... it's just old. EQ was a great game and Verant was berated when they ran EQ in the same way that SOE is berated now. I constantly hear how bad the CS is with SOE, etc, but in my experience the CS from blizzard has been 100 times worse in WoW. You can't even get an in game response to a petition, you just get a form letter a couple of days later that doesn't even address the issue you petitioned. But the game is great so that gets overlooked most of the time. The thing is that EQ has been around for 6 years or therabouts now... that's 6 years of both mistakes and successes that EQ II, WoW, and other new games have had to learn from and improve on. If EQ I still had a thriving community of players to keep it going , it could still be a "good" game... but the numbers are dwindling every day.. so much so that they recently reduced the number of servers by half , merging servers together.

So, in short if you like the MMORPG i strongly recommend one of the newer ones such as WoW, EQ II, if you really like PvP a lot then Guild Wars, or one of the games coming out in the near future such as D&D Online or Vanguard, etc. There are so many coming out now that EQI really is kind of a waste of your time and money.

 

[nweaver]

Iksar, yes you start in Cabilis. The "Task Master" is part of the name of the NPC. You may have to talk to them during a quest, but you don't get tasks from them.


EQ1 is still a decent game (or was, when I quit a few months ago).

There are 2 guilds, your "class" guild (i.e. shadowknight, paladin, mage, monk) and then your Player Association guild (Such as Arch Overseers, Club Fu, etc) You have to be invited by a guild officer to join a player guild, and there are not penelties with NPC's for player guild associations. (i.e. joining a guild full of paladins won't piss off the shadownight class guild NPC's).

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: jdport
you don't even have to like PvP to like WoW

Tell me that when you're level 60 If you are 60, and managed to find a raiding guild in which 3/4 of the members aren't too busy PvPing 24/7 in Hillsbrad or BGs to raid, you're one of a very small, lucky minority. What they need to do is put up a few PvE-only servers to condense those with a distaste for PvP - but they've stated they have no plans for that whatsoever.

As for SOE destroying EQ, I wouldn't really agree with that... it's just old. EQ was a great game and Verant was berated when they ran EQ in the same way that SOE is berated now. I constantly hear how bad the CS is with SOE, etc, but in my experience the CS from blizzard has been 100 times worse in WoW.

From when to when did you play EQ? I started around the SoV release and the plummet in quality & design was extremely noticeable imo; a bit of a dropoff in SoL, since Brad & Co. started that expansion and Sony finished it. Fully in PoP & thereafter, since that was all Sony.

The appeal used to be the immersiveness and the fact you couldn't "beat" the game, as it had no final objective other than what you made of it. PoP changed that; made it into a twitch game and put up walls between friends by making uberguilds the only way to advance and making the raid gear 3x as good as it used to be while barely changing regular gear; essentially FUBARing the risk:reward ratio.

The influx of little kids that this easier, beatable EQ attracted didn't slip my attention either; I remember when shouting auctions was frowned upon; I remember how doodspeakers were lightheartedly poked fun of... when I left just before GoD, these things had become the norm. Typing a sentence without using "u", "ur", "y", "c", etc. as words would pretty much get you berated for being a "dummyhed groanup lololololol"

As far as CS, I had no trouble getting a petition responded to in WoW, midday on a Saturday, within a few hours. The CSR was able to type fluently in English as well, since unlike Sony, Blizzard doesn't outsource its CS to India.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: jdport
you don't even have to like PvP to like WoW

Tell me that when you're level 60 If you are 60, and managed to find a raiding guild in which 3/4 of the members aren't too busy PvPing 24/7 in Hillsbrad or BGs to raid

Things have changed so much since you left WoW Gurck! Everyone now spends 24/7 in battlegrounds rather than constant raiding of TM/SS.:disgust:

and im still LFG

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: jdport
you don't even have to like PvP to like WoW

Tell me that when you're level 60 If you are 60, and managed to find a raiding guild in which 3/4 of the members aren't too busy PvPing 24/7 in Hillsbrad or BGs to raid

Things have changed so much since you left WoW Gurck! Everyone now spends 24/7 in battlegrounds rather than constant raiding of TM/SS.:disgust:

and im still LFG

You're still playing though? and you're 60? and you don't enjoy pvp?

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: jdport
you don't even have to like PvP to like WoW

Tell me that when you're level 60 If you are 60, and managed to find a raiding guild in which 3/4 of the members aren't too busy PvPing 24/7 in Hillsbrad or BGs to raid

Things have changed so much since you left WoW Gurck! Everyone now spends 24/7 in battlegrounds rather than constant raiding of TM/SS.:disgust:

and im still LFG

You're still playing though? and you're 60? and you don't enjoy pvp?

Iirc Schadenfroh plays EQ2 exclusively now...? (correct me if I'm wrong S)

Sad that, for PvE, a Sony game is the best thing out there Well, just another ~1.5 years and that'll all change, people new to MMORPGs who think WoW and EQ2 are good games will see the real deal

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: jdport
you don't even have to like PvP to like WoW

Tell me that when you're level 60 If you are 60, and managed to find a raiding guild in which 3/4 of the members aren't too busy PvPing 24/7 in Hillsbrad or BGs to raid

Things have changed so much since you left WoW Gurck! Everyone now spends 24/7 in battlegrounds rather than constant raiding of TM/SS.:disgust:

and im still LFG

You're still playing though? and you're 60? and you don't enjoy pvp?

Iirc Schadenfroh plays EQ2 exclusively now...? (correct me if I'm wrong S)

Sad that, for PvE, a Sony game is the best thing out there Well, just another ~1.5 years and that'll all change, people new to MMORPGs who think WoW and EQ2 are good games will see the real deal

There are a ton of MMOs releasing in the next 2 yrs, should be fun times . I just wish new release mmos were easier to try out before laying down $50 (x2 in my case). At least they have the 1 month free. I doubt i'd buy at all without that.

BTW i still don't understand how ppl can farm (especially instances) like they do. I'll be playing WoW again for sure this fall with my wife, her son and several of his friends. I'll post on that when it happens.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: Malladine

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: jdport
you don't even have to like PvP to like WoW

Tell me that when you're level 60 If you are 60, and managed to find a raiding guild in which 3/4 of the members aren't too busy PvPing 24/7 in Hillsbrad or BGs to raid

Things have changed so much since you left WoW Gurck! Everyone now spends 24/7 in battlegrounds rather than constant raiding of TM/SS.:disgust:

and im still LFG

You're still playing though? and you're 60? and you don't enjoy pvp?

Iirc Schadenfroh plays EQ2 exclusively now...? (correct me if I'm wrong S)

Sad that, for PvE, a Sony game is the best thing out there Well, just another ~1.5 years and that'll all change, people new to MMORPGs who think WoW and EQ2 are good games will see the real deal

My friends in real life talked me into reactivating my WoW account (did so about 4 days ago) Although i am having some issues.... If you see my recent forum post. I had played WoW since its launch and untill last month (abouts). I enjoyed PvP untill the honor system, then it stopped being about fun and became all about getting a higher rank and the most contribution points and it seemed everyone dropped what they were doing to go farm CP points.

 

[bpatters69]

Are you sure you're in Cabilis? I quit the game almost a year and a half back, and was high level regardless, but I seem to remember something about newbies no longer starting in their hometown (which for the Iksar, is Cabilis), but rather in a centralized starting area for all races. I'd think going to your 'home world' would mean going to the Iksar town Cabilis. At any rate, it's not as sophisticated as WoW's quest system; most quests consist of an NPC telling you what he needs. You can collect the items without even having spoken to him, bring them and get the quest reward.

I am not actually in Cabilis. It is called East Cabilis. Maybe if I go home, I will go to Cabilis? What should I do in Cabilis? I will find out tonight at any rate. Just looking for some ideas.

 

[bpatters69]

A word of advice? EQ was a beautiful, immersive adventurous game. The guy responsible for that and much of his staff left years ago out of disgust with Sony, and are now Sigil Games, which is working on Vanguard, expected out in possibly late '06 or early '07. Since his departure Sony has utterly raped Norrath in pursuit of the almighty dollar, and largely ruined it. My advice is, if you're a casual gamer and/or love PvP (and I do mean LOVE PvP), try out WoW. The magic of EQ is gone, systematically murdered by Sony. If you like WoW, try Vanguard when it's released.

Agree with you and the others. Sony hits you for the cost of the game and then a monthly fee to boot. I understand that servers and bandwidth cost money but $10 to $15 a month? I played a WWII shooter called Call of Duty and all the servers were public and I never had to pay anything. I guess the "nice" thing about Sony hosting the servers is you get to interact with everyone who plays EQ.

Are there public servers for EQ? By "public" I mean free, non-sony sanctioned servers.

 

[Malladine]

Oh man...

Sony hits you for the cost of the game and then a monthly fee to boot. I understand that servers and bandwidth cost money but $10 to $15 a month? I played a WWII shooter called Call of Duty and all the servers were public and I never had to pay anything

Not exactly what he meant , and I refuse to go into why monthly payments are reasonable for MMOs.

 

[bpatters69]

Are there public servers that are less costly? Is paying Sony the only way to get access to servers?

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: bpatters69
Are there public servers that are less costly? Is paying Sony the only way to get access to servers?

No, Yes

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: bpatters69

Are you sure you're in Cabilis? I quit the game almost a year and a half back, and was high level regardless, but I seem to remember something about newbies no longer starting in their hometown (which for the Iksar, is Cabilis), but rather in a centralized starting area for all races. I'd think going to your 'home world' would mean going to the Iksar town Cabilis. At any rate, it's not as sophisticated as WoW's quest system; most quests consist of an NPC telling you what he needs. You can collect the items without even having spoken to him, bring them and get the quest reward.

I am not actually in Cabilis. It is called East Cabilis. Maybe if I go home, I will go to Cabilis? What should I do in Cabilis? I will find out tonight at any rate. Just looking for some ideas.

You have four good (if a bit graphically dated) newbie zones to choose from; the Lake of Ill Omen and Warslik Woods off of Cabilis West, and the Swamp of No Hope and the Field of Bone off of Cabilis East (from memory - pretty impressive eh? One of my 4 mains over the course of the game was an Iksar Monk, and Kunark & Velious were my favorite continents). You can check them out, gain experience and speak to whatever various NPCs may be around by hailing them (default key - H). Keep in mind that there are many quests you can't start till you're sufficient level.

Originally posted by: Malladine
Oh man...

Sony hits you for the cost of the game and then a monthly fee to boot. I understand that servers and bandwidth cost money but $10 to $15 a month? I played a WWII shooter called Call of Duty and all the servers were public and I never had to pay anything

Not exactly what he meant , and I refuse to go into why monthly payments are reasonable for MMOs.

The monthly fee is a MMORPG thing you have to get used to if you want to play them (I'm not going to argue the point - if you disagree, that's fine, we're all entitled to an opinion). IMO it's well worth it if the game is good, as EQ was until around October 2002. WoW is worth it I guess, if you like PvP (I don't, so I quit), but no Sony game is; this includes EQ 1 & 2, Planetside and Star Wars: Galaxies. Again, imo, ymmv, etc.