Everquest 2 becomes even more like WoW

[Schadenfroh]

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PvP

This is strict good vs. evil. You're only grouping with others of your alignment, and opposing aligned PCs highlight to you the same way that NPC encounters would.

EQ2 will be introducing the concept of Honorable, Neutral, and Dishonorable victories. Honorable victories are where the rewards lie.

The first of the rewards for defeating your city's enemies include: Status and Standing with your PvP faction.

Once you earn PvP standing, you can buy valuable and useful items from your faction's merchants. This is real, desirable equipment.

Class Selection

The main idea behind the Archetype, Class, Subclass progression was to ease people in to playing EQ2 and give them time to explore playstyles behind their main archetype, eventually "growing into" their final profession. It's an idea that's unique to EQ2, and I think we executed on it well.

In a coming update, tentatively set for mid to late January, people will be able to pick their final class right at character creation

The citizenship quest is gone. You will now earn citizenship on either Queen's Colony or Outpost of the Overlord when you leave to pursue journeys in Qeynos or Freeport . With this change, there is no longer a cap on your ability to level up due to a citizenship restriction.

 

[CKent]

It endlessly baffles me that WoW and Sony's bad copy of it are the best of what's out there

 

[ArmchairAthlete]

EQ2 is still around?

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
EQ2 is still around?

EQ2 does have a very healthy player base. :roll:

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: ArmchairAthlete
EQ2 is still around?

EQ2 does have a very healthy player

Glad to hear about your good health, but don't you get lonely in Norrath?

J/k!

 

[BigPoppa]

The next great MMO will come from a small company who manages to "get it right." Whether by chance or skill remains to be seen. Vanguard won't do it. EVE is about as close as a company has gotten. Great devs, offline advancement that really doesn't penalize a new player but still allows someone who has played for a long time to have certain advantages.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: BigPoppa
EVE is about as close as a company has gotten. es.

No. Eve is a festering pile of poo at worst and footnote in history at best. :roll:

MMOs these days require some money to have lagless servers, streamlined netcode aside, and Blizz's poor WoW management.

 

[DeathReborn]

Originally posted by: BigPoppa
The next great MMO will come from a small company who manages to "get it right." Whether by chance or skill remains to be seen. Vanguard won't do it. EVE is about as close as a company has gotten. Great devs, offline advancement that really doesn't penalize a new player but still allows someone who has played for a long time to have certain advantages.

I'm looking to Warhammer Online to provide the stimulation WoW & EQ2 both promised and failed to deliver (imo). Unfortunately it's not due until 2007 so it's a long way off but should be worth waiting for. Auto Assault will tide me over until then.

The whole making EQ2 like WoW thing bemuses me though. EQ2 is supposed to be harder than WoW yet all it was is more frustrating but added an element we'd been missing, Death Penalties.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: BigPoppa
The next great MMO will come from a small company who manages to "get it right." Whether by chance or skill remains to be seen. Vanguard won't do it. EVE is about as close as a company has gotten. Great devs, offline advancement that really doesn't penalize a new player but still allows someone who has played for a long time to have certain advantages.

Eve?! Was Eve your first MMO? The first time is always a 'magical' experience.

 

[Looney]

BTW, did you know EQ2 has a betrayal quest to change class as well? And it's not restricted by level? Although you can only change to a parallel class... like SK to a Pally... Guardian to a Berserker... Monk to Bruiser, etc.

This game is so ridiculous now. Well, can't really blame them. Sigil took all the talented people from them.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: BigPoppa
The next great MMO will come from a small company who manages to "get it right." Whether by chance or skill remains to be seen. Vanguard won't do it. EVE is about as close as a company has gotten. Great devs, offline advancement that really doesn't penalize a new player but still allows someone who has played for a long time to have certain advantages.

Eve?! Was Eve your first MMO? The first time is always a 'magical' experience.

exactly, how can anyone say eve is close??? eve is garbage.

i'm looking for Age of Conan

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: BigPoppa
The next great MMO will come from a small company who manages to "get it right." Whether by chance or skill remains to be seen. Vanguard won't do it. EVE is about as close as a company has gotten. Great devs, offline advancement that really doesn't penalize a new player but still allows someone who has played for a long time to have certain advantages.

Eve?! Was Eve your first MMO? The first time is always a 'magical' experience.

exactly, how can anyone say eve is close??? eve is garbage.

Would not say its garbage, but its just not the game for me. I played the free trial of Eve and could not stand it, but there are plenty of people out there that enjoy it.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Looney
BTW, did you know EQ2 has a betrayal quest to change class as well? And it's not restricted by level? Although you can only change to a parallel class... like SK to a Pally... Guardian to a Berserker... Monk to Bruiser, etc.

Well, in WoW, you can go back and forth between a Shadow Mage and a Priest with only a fee payed in gold as many times as you can afford. If you are a druid, you can also go between an Owl Bear (aka Dance Form), rogue, and healer with the payment of gold. Warriors can go back and forth between a mortal strike / improved overpower DPS machine and a tank, with only a paymet of gold.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Looney
BTW, did you know EQ2 has a betrayal quest to change class as well? And it's not restricted by level? Although you can only change to a parallel class... like SK to a Pally... Guardian to a Berserker... Monk to Bruiser, etc.

Well, in WoW, you can go back and forth between a Shadow Mage and a Priest with only a fee payed in gold as many times as you can afford. If you are a druid, you can also go between an Owl Bear (aka Dance Form), rogue, and healer with the payment of gold. Warriors can go back and forth between a mortal strike / improved overpower DPS machine and a tank, with only a paymet of gold.

Don't forget Hunters - Text

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: RBachman
It endlessly baffles me that WoW and Sony's bad copy of it are the best of what's out there

Not really the best, just the most popular.

EVE online, daoc, and other nich products imo are way better than the above. But my tastes are obviously different.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: RBachman
It endlessly baffles me that WoW and Sony's bad copy of it are the best of what's out there

Not really the best, just the most popular.

EVE online, daoc, and other nich products imo are way better than the above. But my tastes are obviously different.

Not claiming you're wrong, but PvP bores me so those titles aren't really options for me.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: RBachman
It endlessly baffles me that WoW and Sony's bad copy of it are the best of what's out there

Class evolution is a very old concept, owned by neither Blizzard or Sony. They are both copies.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: BigPoppa
The next great MMO will come from a small company who manages to "get it right." Whether by chance or skill remains to be seen. Vanguard won't do it. EVE is about as close as a company has gotten. Great devs, offline advancement that really doesn't penalize a new player but still allows someone who has played for a long time to have certain advantages.

Eve?! Was Eve your first MMO? The first time is always a 'magical' experience.

exactly, how can anyone say eve is close??? eve is garbage.

Eve is a fantastic game in more ways than one, and has been very successful. It has its flaws, like any work, but it is very unique in the MMO industry, and groundbreaking.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Looney
BTW, did you know EQ2 has a betrayal quest to change class as well? And it's not restricted by level? Although you can only change to a parallel class... like SK to a Pally... Guardian to a Berserker... Monk to Bruiser, etc.

Well, in WoW, you can go back and forth between a Shadow Mage and a Priest with only a fee payed in gold as many times as you can afford. If you are a druid, you can also go between an Owl Bear (aka Dance Form), rogue, and healer with the payment of gold. Warriors can go back and forth between a mortal strike / improved overpower DPS machine and a tank, with only a paymet of gold.

Don't forget Hunters - Text

Is that staff real? Holy crap my priest needs it. I cant find it on thottbot.

 

[FlasHBurN]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Looney
BTW, did you know EQ2 has a betrayal quest to change class as well? And it's not restricted by level? Although you can only change to a parallel class... like SK to a Pally... Guardian to a Berserker... Monk to Bruiser, etc.

Well, in WoW, you can go back and forth between a Shadow Mage and a Priest with only a fee payed in gold as many times as you can afford. If you are a druid, you can also go between an Owl Bear (aka Dance Form), rogue, and healer with the payment of gold. Warriors can go back and forth between a mortal strike / improved overpower DPS machine and a tank, with only a paymet of gold.

Don't forget Hunters - Text

Is that staff real? Holy crap my priest needs it. I cant find it on thottbot.

Wow, you are joking, right?

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: FlasHBurN

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: Looney
BTW, did you know EQ2 has a betrayal quest to change class as well? And it's not restricted by level? Although you can only change to a parallel class... like SK to a Pally... Guardian to a Berserker... Monk to Bruiser, etc.

Well, in WoW, you can go back and forth between a Shadow Mage and a Priest with only a fee payed in gold as many times as you can afford. If you are a druid, you can also go between an Owl Bear (aka Dance Form), rogue, and healer with the payment of gold. Warriors can go back and forth between a mortal strike / improved overpower DPS machine and a tank, with only a paymet of gold.

Don't forget Hunters - Text

Is that staff real? Holy crap my priest needs it. I cant find it on thottbot.

Wow, you are joking, right?

Create your own item!

 

[BigPoppa]

Eve wasn't my first MMO. Or second, third, forth or fifth. I started MMOs with EQ, have played EQ2, WoW, FFXI, Ragnaros Online, beta'd vanguard, etc. Eve has so many great elements in it. I know its not the game for everyone, but the people it caters to its perfect for. It isn't an easy game to just jump into. It actually takes some thought to be put into everything, even character creation can have a huge impact. The only game I have an active subscription for atm is WoW, it fits my current playstyle and playtime.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: BigPoppa
Eve wasn't my first MMO. Or second, third, forth or fifth. I started MMOs with EQ, have played EQ2, WoW, FFXI, Ragnaros Online, beta'd vanguard, etc. Eve has so many great elements in it. I know its not the game for everyone, but the people it caters to its perfect for. It isn't an easy game to just jump into. It actually takes some thought to be put into everything, even character creation can have a huge impact. The only game I have an active subscription for atm is WoW, it fits my current playstyle and playtime.

You know what's really interesting? EVE is a ripoff of my very first MMO I guess that's why I enjoyed it so much.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Create your own item!

I made this: Text

For those who want to carry 3 bags of ammo with them at all times.

 

[luigi1]

err Eq2 is a different game than it was at launch. and it's growing. Eve is Eve it stands alone and as others have said its not for every one. It's ok with that, I hope you are. It's growing as well. Not to be a fan boy for either ( though I'm playing both ATM) they are reasonable MMORPG's if they suit your style. But if you played either at launch please understand they have changed and evolved. Its what MMORPG's do. Eve has grown deeper but it's very much like eve at launch theres just more there. Eq2 is well, at least more interesting, in my opinion the initial team made some very bad calls. If SOE puts resources behind it it could be the killer mmo, its at least a fun game to play at the moment given that you buy the adventure pacts, the inital game is rather bland but there moving in good directions. No one has ever done dungeons as good as the eq titles ( and beleve me I want to hate them but I love a good dungeon crawl). ymmv of cource but thats my opinion.