Ever seen *IN REAL LIFE* actual Kung Fu fighting? Like for self defense?

[TommyVercetti]

I saw Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story last night, and I am having a tad bit of a problem believing some of it, especially the fighting scenes. Has anyone here actually seen such fighting for self defense, utilizing the art of martial arts? I am not talking about cops using some judo chop on an unruly drunk, I am talking about a real fight.

 

[Dissipate]

A fight between a skilled martial artist and a n00b or between two skilled martial artists?

 

[HappyPuppy]

No. Why do you ask. Are you looking to get your ass kicked?

 

[TommyVercetti]

Originally posted by: Dissipate
A fight between a skilled martial artist and a n00b or between two skilled martial artists?

Both. Are those moves even possible in a fight position where you are so pumped up and timing yourself is hard?

 

[JonnyBlaze]

nope. but i would love to.

i used to work with this guy, hes 42, and a lil out of shape, but a 3rd degree black belt in kempo. for years i allways thought i could get him in a fight till one day we were playing around, and without hitting me, swung like 25 damn times before i could blink. i couldnt believe how accurate and close he could get. it made me respect black belts a lil more.

JBlaze

 

[freebee]

A bullet makes no distinction between a black belt or a couch potato.

 

[EvilYoda]

hmmm...nothing outside of sparring. my "crowd" seldom gets into a fights and whatnot (unless it was at a party and I don't remember )...

 

[JonnyBlaze]

if you pull a gun on a black belt, you better not be close enought for him to get ya and you better be ready to use it.

JB

 

[Rufio]

i've seen it.

one was a capoeira artist. other was a drunk guy.

oh wait, that is Tekken.

 

[SilverThief]

Ive seen 2 marital artists in a real street fight. It was the silliest crap I've ever seen. Nothing like the smooth coreographed fighting that you see in the movies. In the end they both just gave up.

 

[CrackaLackaZe]

Originally posted by: SilverThief
Ive seen 2 marital artists in a real street fight. It was the silliest crap I've ever seen. Nothing like the smooth coreographed fighting that you see in the movies. In the end they both just gave up.

lol

 

[deejayshakur]

i'd think that a true, balls-out fight between two martial artists would be rare because we're taught self-defense over anything, so basically we are always on the defense. of course, it's possible to have a tough guy karate kid picking fights, but i still have a hard time imagining it cause they pound the idea of 'self-defense' so hard into you. 1st black tkd.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Yeah, I saw a fight between a skinny martial arts guy and a big boxer looking guy. The little guy just got beat. It was funny because the little guy started the fight, and the big guy didn't want to fight. The big guy ended up whoopin' him like a lil' girl. I was amused to say the least.

I also have actually fought a martial arts guy. He was being a jerk, and needed to be shut up. He was a judo guy. His pressure points, and holds hurt, but after I got him a few times, he was out. When he went down I got applause. That felt pretty nice.

 

[bradruth]

Originally posted by: JonnyBlaze
if you pull a gun on a black belt, you better not be close enought for him to get ya and you better be ready to use it.

JB

If I pull my gun on someone, you'd better f'n believe I'm prepared to use it.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Unless the level of skill on the martial artist's part is ridiculously unfair in comparison to the opponent, you're not going to see anything fancy - and by "skilled" I mean both in training and in experience.

And people like that, the just don't give a fvck so they just don't start/get involved in anything; add to the fact that if they're doing something flashy like that, well, they're just showing off/taunting the opponent.

Even by then I don't think you're going to see anything like the things you see in the movies, imo;

"A fight should never last longer than three seconds" - Yip Man

 

[Nebor]

I'm a 1st degree black belt in tkd, but way back when, I was walking through Oak Lawn (gay area of dallas) w/ my TKD instructor. It's a fairly crime ridden place, because it's full of wealthy gay guys who won't fight back. Anyways, some rough looking mexican dude walks out from a CD store like he's going to cross the street, and he grabs my arm and says, "Give me your fvcking wa..." and by then my TKD instructor had hit him in the throat. Guy grabbed his throat and kinda leaned over, TKD instructor dropped an elbow near the base of his skull. Guy fell down, TKD instructor kicked him HARD in the ribs. Definitely broke some. Then he started walking away. I was freaked out, but I didn't want to get left, so I followed him.

 

[brxndxn]

My brother (a big 6'2" 270lb dude) started taking Butokokan (dunno spelling) Karate about a year ago. He's been fairly serious in it and he's definitely starting to scare me. Even when I think I catch him offguard, he seems to block it anyway.. SCARY

I run up and punch him just playing around and he just naturally blocks it now. It's scary because I am starting to feel that even if I tried to hit him, he wouldn't have a problem blocking it. I've always been able to take him down because of my OBA (older-brother advantage), but I dunno how much longer that would last. He's starting to learn how to throw his weight now.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Nebor
I'm a 1st degree black belt in tkd, but way back when, I was walking through Oak Lawn (gay area of dallas) w/ my TKD instructor. It's a fairly crime ridden place, because it's full of wealthy gay guys who won't fight back. Anyways, some rough looking mexican dude walks out from a CD store like he's going to cross the street, and he grabs my arm and says, "Give me your fvcking wa..." and by then my TKD instructor had hit him in the throat. Guy grabbed his throat and kinda leaned over, TKD instructor dropped an elbow near the base of his skull. Guy fell down, TKD instructor kicked him HARD in the ribs. Definitely broke some. Then he started walking away. I was freaked out, but I didn't want to get left, so I followed him.

Hapkido.

<-- TKD/Hapkido student

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: freebee
A bullet makes no distinction between a black belt or a couch potato.

Do you carry a gun?

 

[ed21x]

I went to quite a few tourneys back when I was like 14 or so in the United Studio of Self Defense. Quite honestly, the tournaments mostly composed of martial artists blocking a ton, every once in awhile, stepping in for a quick hit, then quickly darting out. Everything is basically calculated, extremely defensive, and mostly focused on counter moves, which depend on your opponent being the aggressor.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

My karate teacher also taught us moves which we were forbidden to use except in truly lifethreatening situations, which are based on doing as much damage as possible. Screw trying to knock someone out, if you are fighting for your life you have to take any possibility to attack even if it means mutilating your opponent.

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: freebee
A bullet makes no distinction between a black belt or a couch potato.

Do you carry a gun?

I doubt it. Besides, would you rather risk killing someone with a not-so-well placed bullet or deliberately causing pain in specific places and leaving the person injured while you escape, but fully capable of 100% recovery? Years of training leaves quite a satisfying feeling --for me, more than the satisfying feeling that I get knowing that a few weeks ago I put 18 out of 20 rounds rappid-firing a Glock 19 inside the 9-ring (3 inches) at 30 feet after not having touched a gun for 12 years.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: freebee
A bullet makes no distinction between a black belt or a couch potato.

Do you carry a gun?

I seriously doubt it, guns in New York are known to walk out of your home and kill people of their own volition, that's why they (all but) banned them there.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis

Originally posted by: freebee
A bullet makes no distinction between a black belt or a couch potato.

Do you carry a gun?

I doubt it. Besides, would you rather risk killing someone with a not-so-well placed bullet or deliberately causing pain in specific places and leaving the person injured while you escape, but fully capable of 100% recovery? Years of training leaves quite a satisfying feeling --for me, more than the satisfying feeling that I get knowing that a few weeks ago I put 18 out of 20 rounds rappid-firing a Glock 19 inside the 9-ring (3 inches) at 30 feet after not having touched a gun for 12 years.

When it comes down to it, you'd be a fool to rely on your ability to physically outmaneuver someone when you could just shoot them. Your moves might not work on a big guy, or a fast guy... Bullets work on all kinda guys.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by: ed21x
I went to quite a few tourneys back when I was like 14 or so in the United Studio of Self Defense. Quite honestly, the tournaments mostly composed of martial artists blocking a ton, every once in awhile, stepping in for a quick hit, then quickly darting out. Everything is basically calculated, extremely defensive, and mostly focused on counter moves, which depend on your opponent being the aggressor.

Tournaments/Sparring sessions are completely different than fights. You DO realize this, don't you?