Ever Accepted a Counter-Offer from an Employer?

[Blieb]

I have a buddy that accepted one, though everyone said it was a bad move. He's still with the company a year later ... no shockwaves from the event ... says he worried for a while about getting cut, or being picked on or labeled as an outsider ... but all that has passed.

Have you ever taken a counter?

Discuss

 

[blackdogdeek]

i made an offer to my wife. she countered. i settled for the counter.

in business, i never have. i've always wanted to leave wherever i've left before looking for another job. so pretty much there was nothing that the original place could offer to get me to stay.

 

[QED]

I think you mean " a counteroffer from your current employer when informing them that you have found a better job offer elsewhere"...

Most people have probably accepted a counteroffer, but I doubt most would think it wise to take a counteroffer from an existing employer unless their were extenuating circumstances.

 

[Blieb]

QED, good call ... edited ...

 

[moshquerade]

No, I still left. There was a reason I was leaving in the first place and it wasn't all about the money.

Plus I can't help feeling there would be some animosity left over if I were to stay.

 

[d33pt]

no, but i'd use the counter to get a higher offer from the new company.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Employers would like to think you are there for loyalty rather than as a hired gun.

When you show that $$ is the most important, they will start having reservations about how many more times you will greenmail then.

You may be treated as a hired gun after that point in attitude, workload or hardship

 

[child of wonder]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Employers would like to think you are there for loyalty rather than as a hired gun.

When you show that $$ is the most important, they will start having reservations about how many more times you will greenmail then.

You may be treated as a hired gun after that point in attitude, workload or hardship

That IS why people are there.

99.9999999% of people would be doing something else if they could.

Does that mean they can't be passionate about their jobs? No. But let's not fool ourselves by thinking that any loyalty or sacrifice on the employee's part will ever be reciprocated by the company.

 

[darkxshade]

At my old job, a lot of people resigned just to get better counter offers and stayed. This one guy did it 3 times. Eventually people working under me ended up with higher salaries.

I got pissed about that and resigned as well(without a job offer in hand). They asked me my reason and I told them it's not right how a company can reward an unloyal empoyee by giving them raises and promotions to stay with the company while those who were loyal didn't get anything to show for it. Naturally they offered me a raise and promotion but suffice to say I threw it back at their faces. I had to make a point to the other loyal employees.

 

[IamDavid]

I did, for a pretty good raise. 35%. After a while I started resenting the fact it took the company a situation like me quitting for them to pay up.. Still with them today but have very little loyalty. Great place to work though.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: darkxshade
At my old job, a lot of people resigned just to get better counter offers and stayed. This one guy did it 3 times. Eventually people working under me ended up with higher salaries.

I got pissed about that and resigned as well(without a job offer in hand). They asked me my reason and I told them it's not right how a company can reward an unloyal empoyee by giving them raises and promotions to stay with the company while those loyal didn't get anything to show for it. Naturally they offered me a raise and promotion but suffice to say I threw it back at their faces. I had to make a point to the other loyal employees.

Ummmm...that is how it works. You think people like the fact that some college grads right out school get paid more than them? To get the max raise, you have to demand it. Loyalty does not exist anymore. If you think it does, you are a fool.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: darkxshade
At my old job, a lot of people resigned just to get better counter offers and stayed. This one guy did it 3 times. Eventually people working under me ended up with higher salaries.

I got pissed about that and resigned as well(without a job offer in hand). They asked me my reason and I told them it's not right how a company can reward an unloyal empoyee by giving them raises and promotions to stay with the company while those who were loyal didn't get anything to show for it. Naturally they offered me a raise and promotion but suffice to say I threw it back at their faces. I had to make a point to the other loyal employees.

Or you could of just asked for a raise or threatened to resign.

Throwing out your job because you aren't getting paid enough and then not staying when they offer to pay you more seems a little back-asswards.

 

[darkxshade]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: darkxshade
At my old job, a lot of people resigned just to get better counter offers and stayed. This one guy did it 3 times. Eventually people working under me ended up with higher salaries.

I got pissed about that and resigned as well(without a job offer in hand). They asked me my reason and I told them it's not right how a company can reward an unloyal empoyee by giving them raises and promotions to stay with the company while those loyal didn't get anything to show for it. Naturally they offered me a raise and promotion but suffice to say I threw it back at their faces. I had to make a point to the other loyal employees.

Ummmm...that is how it works. You think people like the fact that some college grads right out school get paid more than them? To get the max raise, you have to demand it. Loyalty does not exist anymore. If you think it does, you are a fool.

I know that, what I wrote was just part of the story. There was also favortism there, some people got promoted before me and they did nothing. New hires straight out of college to work under me got a higher salary. The turnover rate at my division was 2 weeks, no joke... someone quit every 2 weeks. I only stayed because I was content with my work plus I was actually the one who's been at that group the longest at a whopping 1.5 years. I was training my managers to manage me.

 

[Blieb]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
Employers would like to think you are there for loyalty rather than as a hired gun.

When you show that $$ is the most important, they will start having reservations about how many more times you will greenmail then.

You may be treated as a hired gun after that point in attitude, workload or hardship

Counters aren't all about money ... maybe you could ask for more vacation or less duties ...

I also don't think a counter is initiated by the soon-to-be-former-employee. It's initiated by management in an attempt to "do enough" to keep you. ... Right?

 

[skim milk]

I was doing a full-time internship getting paid like crap
I got a full time offer from another company and when I told them I was leaving, they gave me a counter offer with over a 50% increase in salary
I didn't take it because the job sucked and I wanted to move away

 

[Vonkhan]

I posted about it when it happened ...

I spoke to my boss about it and she counter offered with a 24% bump, 50% more vacation days, early bump into the bonus pool and some other goodies

I love my job and my boss is a sweetheart ... I didn't bother trying to get a high offer from the other company

 

[QED]

Money isn't everything. When you factor in that wherever you work, you will likely spend as much of your waking hours there as you will in your home home-- you realize that being happy with what you do and your work environment can mean much more than a extra dollars in your paycheck.

 

[E equals MC2]

My Account Manager pulled a lil successful stunt last year.

He was the senior of all AMs in the area and held many relationships with key customers. One day without notice, he left our company to the competitor.

The company freaked out upon realizing how much of an asset he was and made a counteroffer - a BIG one. Two days later, he came back... as the boss of all current AMs. Bad ass.

 

[E equals MC2]

Originally posted by: darkxshade

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: darkxshade
At my old job, a lot of people resigned just to get better counter offers and stayed. This one guy did it 3 times. Eventually people working under me ended up with higher salaries.

I got pissed about that and resigned as well(without a job offer in hand). They asked me my reason and I told them it's not right how a company can reward an unloyal empoyee by giving them raises and promotions to stay with the company while those loyal didn't get anything to show for it. Naturally they offered me a raise and promotion but suffice to say I threw it back at their faces. I had to make a point to the other loyal employees.

Ummmm...that is how it works. You think people like the fact that some college grads right out school get paid more than them? To get the max raise, you have to demand it. Loyalty does not exist anymore. If you think it does, you are a fool.

I know that, what I wrote was just part of the story. There was also favortism there, some people got promoted before me and they did nothing. New hires straight out of college to work under me got a higher salary. The turnover rate at my division was 2 weeks, no joke... someone quit every 2 weeks. I only stayed because I was content with my work plus I was actually the one who's been at that group the longest at a whopping 1.5 years. I was training my managers to manage me.

Sadly that's the reality and how the world works, not just your company. Aside from hard work, proper networking and your perceived image is a HUGE factor in climbing the ladder.

I learned that the hard way.

 

[fallenangel99]

It has almost been a year since I accepted a counter-offer. So far, so good (140 employee company)

 

[RKS]

Originally posted by: E equals MC2
My Account Manager pulled a lil successful stunt last year.

He was the senior of all AMs in the area and held many relationships with key customers. One day without notice, he left our company to the competitor.

The company freaked out upon realizing how much of an asset he was and made a counteroffer - a BIG one. Two days later, he came back... as the boss of all current AMs. Bad ass.

Hopefully your company has a better non-compete now.

 

[sjwaste]

Originally posted by: RKS

Originally posted by: E equals MC2
My Account Manager pulled a lil successful stunt last year.

He was the senior of all AMs in the area and held many relationships with key customers. One day without notice, he left our company to the competitor.

The company freaked out upon realizing how much of an asset he was and made a counteroffer - a BIG one. Two days later, he came back... as the boss of all current AMs. Bad ass.

Hopefully your company has a better non-compete now.

Non-competes aren't always enforceable, in fact, just assume they aren't.

The company could've sued for theft of trade secret if he took customer lists, but if he had personal relationships with them and didn't take the lists from his employer, he's probably still in good shape.

Yes, litigation was a way to possibly get this, but if this AM is that good, it doesn't get him back. A large monetary offer does, and when a company desires to continue in business, sometimes paying valuable people appropriately for their services is the right way to go.

 

[Homerboy]

Funny you should ask. I'm in my last week of a 3 week notice. Current employer offered to match new employer (though there were some items they could not completely all the benefits and such). I'm still bailing. And its an incredible job at a great company..... God be with me.

 

[Joemonkey]

I did in January of this year. It was an odd situation, I got hired for one thing but ended up doing much more without a big raise to go along with it. I started looking around after I got a couple more certs and got an offer for 50% more than I was making (with a considerably longer commute). I told my boss about it, shortly after I had an apology that they weren't paying me what I was worth and a 33% raise.

 

[E equals MC2]

Originally posted by: sjwaste

Originally posted by: RKS

Originally posted by: E equals MC2
My Account Manager pulled a lil successful stunt last year.

He was the senior of all AMs in the area and held many relationships with key customers. One day without notice, he left our company to the competitor.

The company freaked out upon realizing how much of an asset he was and made a counteroffer - a BIG one. Two days later, he came back... as the boss of all current AMs. Bad ass.

Hopefully your company has a better non-compete now.

Non-competes aren't always enforceable, in fact, just assume they aren't.

The company could've sued for theft of trade secret if he took customer lists, but if he had personal relationships with them and didn't take the lists from his employer, he's probably still in good shape.

Yes, litigation was a way to possibly get this, but if this AM is that good, it doesn't get him back. A large monetary offer does, and when a company desires to continue in business, sometimes paying valuable people appropriately for their services is the right way to go.

Yea, he didn't reveal any inside info or traded to competition against the company. The customers just liked having him as the AM and had extensive relationship with them. Him leaving meant the customers had to adapt to the replacement - not good in the eyes of customer thus for the company.