Even though Celeron D isnt dual core, has anyone bought one recently?

[FelixDeCat]

Overall, are you satisfied with it? While I think they are a good value for budget based systems, the Pentium 805D is not incredibly expensive and is 775 compatible. Several threads tout its low cost prowess, so have you thought about upgrading?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

No, they make too much heat and cost too much in power. AMD is better.



- M4H

 

[Ika]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
No, they make too much heat and cost too much in power. AMD is better.



- M4H

agreed. semprons are much better in efficiency. besides, A64 3000+ can be bought for less than $130.

 

[Absolute0]

How about the Yonah based Celerons?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=98944
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=97306&highlight=Celeron


Yeah, Sempron owned...

Those are 1.60 Ghz and 1.73 Ghz Celeron (Yonah based) doing over 3 Ghz on aircooling, and at least as fast as AMD 64s clock per clock...

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Overall, are you satisfied with it? While I think they are a good value for budget based systems, the Pentium 805D is not incredibly expensive and is 775 compatible. Several threads tout its low cost prowess, so have you thought about upgrading?

The comparison is actually pretty interesting now that Intel has dropped the prices on Celerons.

Sempron 2600+ 1.6GHZ/128KB 68US
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819104249

Celeron D 346 3.06GHZ/256KB 68US
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819112203

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Absolute0
How about the Yonah based Celerons?
...
Yeah, Sempron owned...

Those are 1.60 Ghz and 1.73 Ghz Celeron (Yonah based) doing over 3 Ghz on aircooling, and at least as fast as AMD 64s clock per clock...

Not the best comparison. Those socket 479 boards are rather expensive plus if you look carefully, when they used "boxed" HSF they only got around 2.5GHz. To do 2.9GHz they had to use a Thermalright SP-94 (IIRC a heavy copper heatsink) and a Vantec Tornado fan. To do 3.2GHz on the other one took "Delta x2," I'm guessing stacked Delta high RPM fans. To get higher than that took "?Kuri Pro2?+ DICE" which I have no idea what that is, and LN2.

Basically, expensive motherboard and noisy or exotic cooling.

My $79 OEM Sempron 3300+ can hit close to 2.8GHz on a $70 motherboard using near stock cooling (retail box from another CPU).

Forget about overglorified notebook CPUs and forget about expensive dual core stuff, when DESKTOP 65nm "Core" Celerons show up on the market with overclockable under $100 motherboards, wake me up!!!

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: Absolute0
How about the Yonah based Celerons?
...
Yeah, Sempron owned...

Those are 1.60 Ghz and 1.73 Ghz Celeron (Yonah based) doing over 3 Ghz on aircooling, and at least as fast as AMD 64s clock per clock...

Not the best comparison. Those socket 479 boards are rather expensive plus if you look carefully, when they used "boxed" HSF they only got around 2.5GHz. To do 2.9GHz they had to use a Thermalright SP-94 (IIRC a heavy copper heatsink) and a Vantec Tornado fan. To do 3.2GHz on the other one took "Delta x2," I'm guessing stacked Delta high RPM fans. To get higher than that took "?Kuri Pro2?+ DICE" which I have no idea what that is, and LN2.

Basically, expensive motherboard and noisy or exotic cooling.

My $79 OEM Sempron 3300+ can hit close to 2.8GHz on a $70 motherboard using near stock cooling (retail box from another CPU).

Forget about overglorified notebook CPUs and forget about expensive dual core stuff, when DESKTOP 65nm "Core" Celerons show up on the market with overclockable under $100 motherboards, wake me up!!!

79US for a Sempron 3300+? Where?

 

[Absolute0]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: Absolute0
How about the Yonah based Celerons?
...
Yeah, Sempron owned...

Those are 1.60 Ghz and 1.73 Ghz Celeron (Yonah based) doing over 3 Ghz on aircooling, and at least as fast as AMD 64s clock per clock...

Not the best comparison. Those socket 479 boards are rather expensive plus if you look carefully, when they used "boxed" HSF they only got around 2.5GHz. To do 2.9GHz they had to use a Thermalright SP-94 (IIRC a heavy copper heatsink) and a Vantec Tornado fan. To do 3.2GHz on the other one took "Delta x2," I'm guessing stacked Delta high RPM fans. To get higher than that took "?Kuri Pro2?+ DICE" which I have no idea what that is, and LN2.

Basically, expensive motherboard and noisy or exotic cooling.

My $79 OEM Sempron 3300+ can hit close to 2.8GHz on a $70 motherboard using near stock cooling (retail box from another CPU).

Forget about overglorified notebook CPUs and forget about expensive dual core stuff, when DESKTOP 65nm "Core" Celerons show up on the market with overclockable under $100 motherboards, wake me up!!!

That's true s479 isn't very established yet, but once it is you'll be looking at a faster and cooler solution than semprons that competes price-wise. And once Celerons are Conroe based, well that'll be ridiculous.

 

[DrMrLordX]

How long will it be before Intel bases their Celeron line on Conroe I wonder? They still have a lot of Preslers and even Smithfields to dump on the market. Cedar Mills, too . . .

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: coldpower27
79US for a Sempron 3300+? Where?

Monarch was selling them at that price (OEM E3 core) for a couple of months earlier this year. They've since raised their price but seriously it was at that price for a couple of months. Closest I can find now from a reputable vendor is:

eWiz for $81.13 with Froogle referral code

IIRC all 3300+ cores are either E3 or E6 so they should all be decent clockers without having to resort to super high HTT. My best results were on a Biostar Tforce6100 board.

 

[F1shF4t]

Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
How long will it be before Intel bases their Celeron line on Conroe I wonder? They still have a lot of Preslers and even Smithfields to dump on the market. Cedar Mills, too . . .

Maybe they will rename the pentium d cpus into celerons and offer them as cheap alternative to conroe

 

[formulav8]

I thought the Intel road map showed the Celeron STAYING with the Netburst core through to the end of the roadmap? Its supposed to get a 512KB L2 Cache this year and even a 1MB Cache next year. But with Intel and their roadmaps (or anyones for that matter), they could completely change it.



Jason

 

[coldpower27]

Originally posted by: formulav8
I thought the Intel road map showed the Celeron STAYING with the Netburst core through to the end of the roadmap? Its supposed to get a 512KB L2 Cache this year and even a 1MB Cache next year. But with Intel and their roadmaps (or anyones for that matter), they could completely change it.



Jason

Well, with the Celeron line, the Cedar Mill revision will be the last core to be NetBurst based even for Celeron, after that were moving to the Millville core with 1MB cache which is based on Core Architecture.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Overall, are you satisfied with it? While I think they are a good value for budget based systems, the Pentium 805D is not incredibly expensive and is 775 compatible. Several threads tout its low cost prowess, so have you thought about upgrading?

I bought one since my Asus motherboard wasn't seeing my Pentium D 950. I used it for 5 minutes to flash the BIOS to a compatible version. Worked great!

 

[Zap]

LOL, may be worth keeping for $45 just as a test part. Heck, I bought a low end PCI-E video card to use as a test part, and I usually have spare PSUs, RAM, etc for testing. They come in handy at times.