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It's the OS integration that sells me... show me a 3rd party browser that lets me seamlessly change a window back and forth between web and local browsing and I'll switch.
 
Originally posted by: Aharami
cant u jsut disable ActiveX?
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Sure and it is a good idea to do so. But you disable flash and other things you may want.


IE has has many vulnerabilities that are not tied to ActiveX so this won't save you from them all.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: SampSon
Too bad no browser can compare to IE for being so full of security holes.
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Edited for clarity.

😛
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This is true. Though never once have I ever had a problem with security and IE.

When someone makes a browser with 100% compatibility, I will switch again.
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Firebird and now Firefox has been a gem across the board for compatibility. Even my online banking that "recommends" Internet Exploder has 0 problems with Firefox. I still use IE when testing pages that I've designed or something, but otherwise it's been my primary browser for quite some time now.
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That's great, but I still NEED IE, period.
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Sucks to be you. 😛
 
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: SampSon
Too bad no browser can compare to IE for being so full of security holes.
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Edited for clarity.

😛
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This is true. Though never once have I ever had a problem with security and IE.

When someone makes a browser with 100% compatibility, I will switch again.
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Firebird and now Firefox has been a gem across the board for compatibility. Even my online banking that "recommends" Internet Exploder has 0 problems with Firefox. I still use IE when testing pages that I've designed or something, but otherwise it's been my primary browser for quite some time now.
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That's great, but I still NEED IE, period.
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Sucks to be you. 😛
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*shrug*
I never have any problems with it.
 
Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
It's funny how people mock Microsoft for making products with security holes. The fact of the matter is that people who exploit these bugs and write viruses wouldn't waste their time doing this on software that's used on only 2% of the computers in the world. That's why you rarely hear about viruses specific to Macs... who would waste their time writing a virus for 2% of the world's computers, most of which are behind very secure firewalls at high tech businesses?
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Good point.

And Sampson is correct also. I unfortunately still have to use IE from time to time due to incompatibility with certain pages.
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Again... if 75% of the world uses IE, and 90% of the web site's target users, why would someone waste their time making sure the page works perfectly with Mozilla, FireFox, Opera, MyIE2, Konqueror, etc. etc.

Microsoft is the biggest. They have to deal with people trying to pirate their software, hack their software, and break their software. Then they have to deal with dumbasses calling them cheaters for taking someone's idea and making it a reality... or buying out another company, possibly keeping them from going belly up and leaving all the employees high and dry.

Anyway... back on topic... sure IE has security holes... there was just a large security hole discovered in the Mac OS as well that supposedly had been known about for months and nothing was done about it until it was plastered all over every news web page.

I use Firefox... I like it because I feel like I have easier control over privacy and security settings, and it has an integrated popup blocker, something IE doesn't have yet. And when it does have a popup blocker built in, people will find ways around it, so it probably won't do much good.
 
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: SampSon
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: SampSon
Too bad no browser can compare to IE for being so full of security holes.
Click to expand...

Edited for clarity.

😛
Click to expand...
This is true. Though never once have I ever had a problem with security and IE.

When someone makes a browser with 100% compatibility, I will switch again.
Click to expand...

Firebird and now Firefox has been a gem across the board for compatibility. Even my online banking that "recommends" Internet Exploder has 0 problems with Firefox. I still use IE when testing pages that I've designed or something, but otherwise it's been my primary browser for quite some time now.
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That's great, but I still NEED IE, period.
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Great keep using it. Just don't say you weren't warned.

Ultimately it is the problem of the vendor, not the user, when it comes to browser incompatiblity. If a vendors site is incompatible with Firefox, I won't even look at their product.
 
Originally posted by: Fiveohhh
Just curious, is IE not secure cause its so widely used(therfor targeted more), or is it badly coded?
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Both. The fact that it's integrated into the OS is it's first fatal flaw
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
This would be the same government that blew $100 million in unused plane tickets.
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Your point being? I'm not going to debate the fact that our government has fscked up countless times, but c'mon now. How many security holes has Microsoft patched in IE? Until they get with the program (pun intended) and clean up their act, Firefox or an alternate browser is a much safer alternative.
 
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Skoorb
This would be the same government that blew $100 million in unused plane tickets.
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Your point being? I'm not going to debate the fact that our government has fscked up countless times, but c'mon now. How many security holes has Microsoft patched in IE? Until they get with the program (pun intended) and clean up their act, Firefox or an alternate browser is a much safer alternative.
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My point being IE pwns j00r ass. A lamborghini isn't as reliable as a civic for daily driving, but it's a better car. WORD!
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Skoorb
This would be the same government that blew $100 million in unused plane tickets.
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Your point being? I'm not going to debate the fact that our government has fscked up countless times, but c'mon now. How many security holes has Microsoft patched in IE? Until they get with the program (pun intended) and clean up their act, Firefox or an alternate browser is a much safer alternative.
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My point being that an unpatched copy of IE allows script kiddies to pwn j00r ass.
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I'm sorry, but I must have had wax in my ears before. This is what you really meant to say, isn't it? 😛
 
IE is obsolete. Period. It's buggy and lacks tons of features, like tabbed browsing and pop up blocking. If it weren't integrated into the OS and was updated every so often it would be a great browser. Now it's just old technology.

PS, I've never run into a web site that I needed that was not compatible with Mozilla.
 
Originally posted by: notfred
Then why do they make us web applications that only work in IE? Damn peice of sh!t payroll software.
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Agreed
I have to run citrix on my linux desktop for just 2 dumbass reasons...

- POS Lotus Notes
- POS web app for filling out/submitting timecards
 
I have firefox because one of the sites I visit gives javascript errors in my IE copy I have at work. Firefox works on that site, but another one I tried it didn't allow for the javascript scrolling that IE does.
 
Originally posted by: nsafreak
Originally posted by: SampSon
Too bad no browser can compare to IE.
Except Myie2.
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Can compare in what way?
The number of security holes that STILL aren't patched?
The general length of time it takes to release a fix? Microsoft stated in this article a release of a comprehensive security pack "sometime this summer". Good chance it's coming with XP SP2
The overall buginess of the program?
Or how about general non compliance with W3C standards?

Please tell us, we'd all really like to know.
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MyIE2 is nothing more than a skin for IE.
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
It's funny how people mock Microsoft for making products with security holes. The fact of the matter is that people who exploit these bugs and write viruses wouldn't waste their time doing this on software that's used on only 2% of the computers in the world. That's why you rarely hear about viruses specific to Macs... who would waste their time writing a virus for 2% of the world's computers, most of which are behind very secure firewalls at high tech businesses?
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I'm so tired of this lame argument.
The classic counter example is Apache ... greater market share then IIS, which should make it the bigger target according to this argument. Yet it is LESS exploited then IIS.

Just face it, IE just sucks on security.

As for the other arguments...
I don't recall the last time I came across a site that doesn't work right in Mozilla (except my companies dumbass timecard application).

Loading times? I don't find it slow, but who cares anyway? I start Mozilla once, and it stays up for weeks until I have to reboot or log off for some reason.

Add on pop-up blocking, tabbed browsing, banner blocking, etc., etc. and it's no contest.
 
Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
It's funny how people mock Microsoft for making products with security holes. The fact of the matter is that people who exploit these bugs and write viruses wouldn't waste their time doing this on software that's used on only 2% of the computers in the world. That's why you rarely hear about viruses specific to Macs... who would waste their time writing a virus for 2% of the world's computers, most of which are behind very secure firewalls at high tech businesses?
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I'm so tired of this lame argument.
The classic counter example is Apache ... greater market share then IIS, which should make it the bigger target according to this argument. Yet it is LESS exploited then IIS.

Just face it, IE just sucks on security.

As for the other arguments...
I don't recall the last time I came across a site that doesn't work right in Mozilla (except my companies dumbass timecard application).

Loading times? I don't find it slow, but who cares anyway? I start Mozilla once, and it stays up for weeks until I have to reboot or log off for some reason.

Add on pop-up blocking, tabbed browsing, banner blocking, etc., etc. and it's no contest.
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:thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: Modeps
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=74&e=3&u=/cmp/20040702/tc_cmp/22103407

The Department of Homeland Security's U.S. Computer Emergency Readiness Team touched off a storm this week when it recommended for security reasons using browsers other than Microsoft Corp.'s Internet Explorer.
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did a few searches, didnt find any.. sorry if it's a repost!
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My company has banned the use of Outlook and Outlook Express for their virus 'compatibility'. HAHAHA!
They now install Mozilla as the default mail program. I use Eudora myself.
 
Honestly, what are security holes going to do for me?

Oops, I mean uh...

MAN... That sucks that I run a regional data center out of my house! I'd better get those security holes fixed right away or the intarweb is going to crash!

:roll:

I don't have crap on my computer that anyone can do anything with. Want to hose my HDD or something? OOOOoooooo I'm REALLY SCARED!
 
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