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Perknose said:
not to mention as practiced by hysterically fundamentalist social/religious troglodytes, could DAMN WELL be potentially worse.
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If you want to make fun of home-schooled children go to P&N or some other pool infested by retards.

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guyver01 said:
Lisa spent about $275 a month on beauty products and services....

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She's getting ripped off... and should sue someone
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bignateyk said:
For starters they need to get rid of the department of education. The federal government has done nothing but make the situation worse by enacting failed policies like "no child left behind" and other forms of standardized testing. Teachers are now forced to teach to the useless tests. We need to accept the fact that not everyone wants to or is cut out to go to college. The only thing "no child left behind" does is prevent the teachers from teaching the students who actually WANT to learn.

The federal government has no business in education. Anything the federal government puts their hand into becomes bloated and useless.
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I would add outlaw and dismantle all teacher's unions and collective bargaining.
 
CPA said:
I would add outlaw and dismantle all teacher's unions and collective bargaining.
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Add in Pay for Performance. This would encourage good teachers to go into failing schools where even returning an average student performance would be a huge improvement and would result in higher pay for them.
 
What a family of fucking dumbasses.

The mother home schools and spends $275/mo on beauty expenses? WTF? What decade do they think this is? 1940?

A $500,000 house on $62,000/year of income? Holy fucking shit.

Goddamn ridiculous people dragging our economy down. Thanks assholes.
 
IceBergSLiM said:
Add in Pay for Performance. This would encourage good teachers to go into failing schools where even returning an average student performance would be a huge improvement and would result in higher pay for them.
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No. NO NO NO. Pay for performance already exists, but at the aggregate school level. The metric is standardized tests. The performance is "how well can our teachers cram the kids to prep for the test while ignoring the rest of education in the process."
 
Genx87 said:
I didnt say that. But if you want a good public district prepare to fork out money. I grew up in a good district(wayzata). But that isnt exactly cheap. The majority of the system is craptastic.
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Not even close to the majority is "craptastic". I went to Chisago Lakes (yeah, MN also), it was a great school district that wasn't horribly expensive for my parents to live in.
 
SunnyD said:
No. NO NO NO. Pay for performance already exists, but at the aggregate school level. The metric is standardized tests. The performance is "how well can our teachers cram the kids to prep for the test while ignoring the rest of education in the process."
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I like the idea of "how many students in your class passed?" kind of performance metric. Don't focus on the overall GPA of the students in the class, simply on whether they passed or not. Then the teacher won't be compelled to simply help smart students from getting an "A" instead of a "B."
 
SunnyD said:
No. NO NO NO. Pay for performance already exists, but at the aggregate school level. The metric is standardized tests. The performance is "how well can our teachers cram the kids to prep for the test while ignoring the rest of education in the process."
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Change the metric. It should realistically be combination of graduation % and SAT scores
 
child of wonder said:
Don't focus on the overall GPA of the students in the class, simply on whether they passed or not.
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Unfortunately a number of school districts have removed the decison to force a child to repeat a grade/class from the school and passed it to the parent. My wife's first year of teaching she was handed 4 kids who had failed Spanish I and II for her Spanish III class. Guess how well they did?

She has a kid in her Algebra II class that can't do 2x5!!! She is not exactly doing well in that class

IceBergSLiM said:
Change the metric. It should realistically be combination of graduation % and SAT scores
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With how little control the teacher has these days in regards to the education of a child I think that is a bad idea. If the system wasn't as broken as it is I could see the merit.

Unfortunately we have a large percentage of the population that doesn't seem to care if their child gets a good education or not - not to mention a popular sub culture within the student population that looks down on 'studying' and 'working hard'. They don't force them to go to school let alone do their homework, don't teach them how to behave, coddle them. We have school districts that let the parents decide if they move on to the next grade, even if the child has clearly failed to learn the required basics. Some have even gone to a 'minimum' grade policy. Can't grade someone lower than a 50% even if they did 0 work

If we dispence with all the bullshit surrounding the glorified babysitting we call 'school' then maybe a performance metric would be fair. Until then it just forces the teacher to accept the failure of the entire system when they are only one part of it
 
About 2 years ago when purchasing my car, I was sitting in the dealers office going over the paperwork when a call came from one of his clients. He spoke with her a little bit, told her not to drop by (she was on her way to pick up a brand new car) and wait for him to call her back.

Dealer got off the phone, called another sales person that had been working with her, and told him, "So we just got the finances back from Ms. X and it seems that she declared bankruptcy last week. She just called to say that she's on her way. You need to call her and let her know that her financing has been rejected b/c she has no money, and she won't be picking up a car from us today, or any day."

Unbelievable.
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zinfamous said:
About 2 years ago when purchasing my car, I was sitting in the dealers office going over the paperwork when a call came from one of his clients. He spoke with her a little bit, told her not to drop by (she was on her way to pick up a brand new car) and wait for him to call her back.

Dealer got off the phone, called another sales person that had been working with her, and told him, "So we just got the finances back from Ms. X and it seems that she declared bankruptcy last week. She just called to say that she's on her way. You need to call her and let her know that her financing has been rejected b/c she has no money, and she won't be picking up a car from us today, or any day."

Typical.
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Fixed, FTL.
 
Perknose said:
Home schooling, as likely practiced by twits like these two, not to mention as practiced by hysterically fundamentalist social/religious troglodytes, could DAMN WELL be potentially worse.
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iirc, test results show home schooling results in better educated kids than regular public schools or even private schools.

there's a giant selection bias there, though. home schooling parents are taking an interest in their kid's education (to put it mildly). i'm fairly certain that's the no. 1 predictor of educational success in any schooling system.


what would be interesting is if the test results accounted for parent involvement.
 
IceBergSLiM said:
Change the metric. It should realistically be combination of graduation % and SAT scores
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You still have a standardized test metric in there. Any time you have an artificial metric like that, the school is going to mandate teaching toward that while ignoring everything else. That's the failure that is our education system.

Maybe make it graduation % that go on to have gainful employment experience for 12 months straight at some point after graduating (yes, that means waiting potentially +8-10 years AFTER graduation before that metric can be counted).
 
This thread is FAIL with all the OVERGENERALIZATIONS about public schools.

I was in several different school districts in CA. None of them elite districts....and all the kids turned out just fine (good colleges, good jobs).

Geez, some posters think that American schooling is Compton gang level. LOL.
 
Its not like there were any serious consequences the first time, so why would they change their behavior. Sometimes when I'm ranting about these kinds of people I think I'm the crazy one.
 
dr150 said:
This thread is FAIL with all the OVERGENERALIZATIONS about public schools.

I was in several different school districts in CA. None of them elite districts....and all the kids turned out just fine (good colleges, good jobs).

Geez, some posters think that American schooling is Compton gang level. LOL.
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They turn out just fine. As in adequate. Which is why the US has slipped from #1 in education over the years and out of the top 10. Public schools are fine though...
 
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