Yeah. Although I never lost connection to the internet, and even when I reset the router, I could not log back on to Eve or Vent. I ended up just turning off the computer, and I will hope to get back on tomorrow. I had about 8 minutes of aggression left when it happened, so hopefully I didn't get probed out and podded during that time. I doubt it, but you never know.
Yeah. Although I never lost connection to the internet, and even when I reset the router, I could not log back on to Eve or Vent. I ended up just turning off the computer, and I will hope to get back on tomorrow. I had about 8 minutes of aggression left when it happened, so hopefully I didn't get probed out and podded during that time. I doubt it, but you never know.
Yeah, I logged on with my ship still intact. So that much was good at least.
Ran a 6/10 plex last night. They seem to have gotten much easier and drop better loot lately. No wonder I keep probing out BCs running them lately. You can probably run one in a BC now. It is still fun to kill them and finish their plex though ...
Oh man, you just provided me with motivation to get a little more serious about playing again. I've found that there are hardly any PvE BCs which can beat my PvP Drake.
Fallen Kell
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I was disconnected 2 nights ago also (Comcast) but it was only for 2 minutes. It was at midnight, which is typically when Comcast sends out updates to the cable modems. Once mine finished rebooting I was able to connect. Sucked a little, but happened at a good time (was in a wormhole and just finished up a mag site, and were just sitting protection detail while the rest of the fleet finished the salvaging/analyzing/hacking/whatevering).
Are the plexes you're talking about in Genesis? I started poking around last night trying to probe out some plex runners, and I'm wondering what the best area to look in is.
The plex runners I look for are in Genesis, Kador, and Kor Azor. I don't usually go to Aridia, but sometimes I will probe out carebears there to gank too.
Got my first PvP kill in quite a long time today. It was just a Kestrel lighting a cyno, but it was still good pop someone's ship again. Missed an opportunity to take on a myrmidon because I stupidly decided to pop a rookie ship and then had to wait out GCC.
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So I started up my Eve account again. Never really got into it the last time I tried. I've just been doing missions/salvaging junk. Wouldn't mind some suggestions on what to do. Also, did they get rid of the skills that increase attributes? Can't seem to find them in my skills list anymore.
Yes, learning skills are gone now. They gave all the skill points that you used on them back and you can use them on anything you want. They also made it so that you have what you would have had if you trained them all to level 5 (actually slightly less, but still nearly maximum learning skills).
I enjoy hunting down other human players and them blowing them up. Everyone has their own part of the game that they find fun, but the rush of racing against time before a target realizes you are looking for them and docks up or leaves system is fun to me.
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So from what I can tell, I have 2.5 million skill points unallocated. Don't want to spend them and then realize I made mistakes : ( Also wondering which race I should focus on first. My characters caldarri, and I have the skills to beable to fly amarr frigates atleast as well as caldarri ones. Was thinking of buying up the skills to use amarr cruisers, but I don't want to spend all my skills only to find out amarr actually suck or something.
Depends on what you want to do really, but the character I use most now is an exclusively Amarr PvP (well, and Blood Raiders I suppose) character and I love it. I would argue that the Amarr are up to the top when it comes to PvP, depending on your playstyle I'd say it is a toss up between Amarr/Minnie as top of the PvP ladder.
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Agreed, with Amarr being the Fleet ships of choice, especially with caps.
I fly Amarr exclusively myself and wouldn't trade it for any other race.
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Yeah, I have been training up Amarr on my PvP character now. The pilgrim is just a wicked solo ship.
Amarr ships seems to be people's favorite. If you're going Caldari though the Drake is a pretty capable and versatile PvP ship.
Ok, here's a question for all the assembled EVE minds. Right now when I'm doing solo PvP I fly a Buzzard with my alt to scan people down, then come in with my other character in a Drake to tackle and kill them. The Buzzard is great for stealthy recon work but pretty much useless for anything else. What's the best ship I could use both to scan people down and then tackle them while I wait for my Drake to arrive? I'm thinking of training my alt to the point where he could also fly a Drake, and then use one nerfed Drake for scanning & tackling and a second one for killing.
Well, your call, you have some options:
Speed tanked Cov Ops: You'd still have your probe bonus and cloak so if you fit as much speed with as low sig as you could, it might be able to hang on until your dps/heavy tackle arrives.
Speed tanked Bomber: You'd lose your probe bonus, but retain your cloak and no longer have the breaking cloak targeting delay to point. Same deal, low sig/max speed and you might be able to hold out.
Force Recon: You'd lose your probe bonus, but retain your cloak, however you'd have the targeting penalty but have considerably more tank. What race? Probably Arazu/Pilgrim/Falcon/Rapier .. in that order. Why? Well, Arazu comes in and points (with extra range point) and damps (to mitigate damage until backup arrives). Pilgrim comes in and points, and TDs to mitigate damage (on a turret ship, against a missile ship obviously not). Falcon comes in and points and then jams to mitigate damage (might be better/worse than the pilgrim depending on what you're finding), Rapier comes in.. and really has no advantage in a strictly tackle/hang on scenario.
Now, do you NEED to be cloaked (an advantage of the Cov Ops/SB/Force Recon)? I suppose not, you could be sitting off scan and doing your probing as many missioners are watching for probes (now that they appear on scan easily) instead of ships anyway. However, if they are watching for new ships on scan at least a cloaky can start his warp cloaked and decloak when he's close enough in warp to land with his targeting delay gone (unless it's a bomber) so as to only appear on scanner for a few seconds before he's there. So do you need the cloak? Meh, up to you. If you don't think so, then really just about any ship would work, if you do, my list should suffice I suppose.
I can live without the cloak. When I used to probe people down solo I just used a Drake with a probe launcher. I'd sit at a safe spot, probe away and warp straight to whatever I found. Putting a probe launcher on the Drake was a compromise, but if I'm using two Drakes I can certainly afford to have one with lousy DPS.
I might also play around with the speed tanked Cov Ops option. It should be easy enough to start my Drake in warp, and right after that decloak my Buzzard, point the target and hang on for dear life. I can afford to lose a Buzzard or two if it doesn't work. Any idea what the best setup is for a speed tanked Cov Ops?
I might also play around with the speed tanked Cov Ops option. It should be easy enough to start my Drake in warp, and right after that decloak my Buzzard, point the target and hang on for dear life. I can afford to lose a Buzzard or two if it doesn't work. Any idea what the best setup is for a speed tanked Cov Ops?
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I'm wondering, which ship should I be aim to buy. Right now, I have amarr cruisers 4 battlecruisers closing in on 3 and most of my gunnery/laser/armor skills at 3 or 4. I was thinking of trying to save up for a prophecy for solo missioning since that's how I'm mostly making money at the moment (eventually I'd like to pvp but I'm not worried about it now). It just makes sense to me to get a tanky ship for soloing, but I don't really know if this is actually a good idea. I was also thinking of getting a maller since that'd be a lot cheaper, but once again I really don't know if these are good ideas.
Right now I'm in a punisher with lasers and a salvager. Level 1s are easy, and 2s seem a little too hard although I haven't really put effort into the ones I've tried.
Right now I'm in a punisher with lasers and a salvager. Level 1s are easy, and 2s seem a little too hard although I haven't really put effort into the ones I've tried.
Fallen Kell
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AyashiKaibutsu,
Well, first thing to do is separate missioning from salvaging... If you want to salvage your wrecks you make while missioning, bookmark a wreck after you finish the mission and come back in a dedicated salvage ship (most people use a destroyer or the new noctis... I havn't salvaged missions in a noctis, so can't say which is better. I can say I prefer the destroyer for WH use, which is where I have been for the last 5 months since I can fit a cloak, probes, microwarp, 6 salvagers, and 2 warp sab II's on my destroyer).
Anyway, back to the missions... I ran missions for my first few months in the game. I will tell you that you might as well train caldari and missile skills right now if you think that is what you want to do for the time being. I was training minmitar and amarr (yeah I know, focus on something) and those ships just don't do as well at missions as caldari once you hit the level 3 and level 4 missions (at least for people who don't have 10million skill points in gunnery skills with tech 2 lasers and/or projectile weapons).
Well, first thing to do is separate missioning from salvaging... If you want to salvage your wrecks you make while missioning, bookmark a wreck after you finish the mission and come back in a dedicated salvage ship (most people use a destroyer or the new noctis... I havn't salvaged missions in a noctis, so can't say which is better. I can say I prefer the destroyer for WH use, which is where I have been for the last 5 months since I can fit a cloak, probes, microwarp, 6 salvagers, and 2 warp sab II's on my destroyer).
Anyway, back to the missions... I ran missions for my first few months in the game. I will tell you that you might as well train caldari and missile skills right now if you think that is what you want to do for the time being. I was training minmitar and amarr (yeah I know, focus on something) and those ships just don't do as well at missions as caldari once you hit the level 3 and level 4 missions (at least for people who don't have 10million skill points in gunnery skills with tech 2 lasers and/or projectile weapons).
Well, your call, you have some options:
Speed tanked Cov Ops: You'd still have your probe bonus and cloak so if you fit as much speed with as low sig as you could, it might be able to hang on until your dps/heavy tackle arrives.
Speed tanked Bomber: You'd lose your probe bonus, but retain your cloak and no longer have the breaking cloak targeting delay to point. Same deal, low sig/max speed and you might be able to hold out.
Force Recon: You'd lose your probe bonus, but retain your cloak, however you'd have the targeting penalty but have considerably more tank. What race? Probably Arazu/Pilgrim/Falcon/Rapier .. in that order. Why? Well, Arazu comes in and points (with extra range point) and damps (to mitigate damage until backup arrives). Pilgrim comes in and points, and TDs to mitigate damage (on a turret ship, against a missile ship obviously not). Falcon comes in and points and then jams to mitigate damage (might be better/worse than the pilgrim depending on what you're finding), Rapier comes in.. and really has no advantage in a strictly tackle/hang on scenario.
Now, do you NEED to be cloaked (an advantage of the Cov Ops/SB/Force Recon)? I suppose not, you could be sitting off scan and doing your probing as many missioners are watching for probes (now that they appear on scan easily) instead of ships anyway. However, if they are watching for new ships on scan at least a cloaky can start his warp cloaked and decloak when he's close enough in warp to land with his targeting delay gone (unless it's a bomber) so as to only appear on scanner for a few seconds before he's there. So do you need the cloak? Meh, up to you. If you don't think so, then really just about any ship would work, if you do, my list should suffice I suppose.
I disagree with the order, I actually prefer an Arazu to tackle in a gang, due to its tackling bonus, but the Rapier is the second best tackling ship due to its bonus to webs, in addition to its relatively good tank, and good damage. If it were a solo ship, I prefer the Rapier to the other force recons due to its good tank and damage, that none of the other recons can match. That said, I still generally tackle in a Arazu, and solo in a pilgrim. Mostly because I can't fly a Rapier. (Here is my last kill with my Pilgrim: http://nawti.evekb.co.uk/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1717323, the guy was doing an incursion solo in the Damnation, took about 20 mintues to kill him though, and I had a rapier to help me.)
I don't like tackling with the Arazu alone though, because it has a crap tank when you fit it for support. (with sensor dampeners, points, and a prop mod in the mids. It can have a good shield tank, but doing that takes away form all the nice bonuses you get to sensor dampeners and warp disruptors.)
As for tackling in a covert ops, I have done it many times. The Helios is the best ship for it (IMHO), because it has the most powergrid, and can fit a MWD. My fit does 2600 m/s (IIRC) and I just kite the target at 17.5km, and hope they don't have warriors while the backup arrives.
I use the Buzzard with my alt because it works better for PVE type work (has more midslots and CPU, allowing you to fit a salvager in the highs, and AB, analyzer, and codebreaker in the mids, to go with the probe launcher and cloak int he highs.
Probably the best tackling ships with probe launchers and cloaks are T3, since you can do it with a relatively good tank, and relatively good damage, and relatively good speed. They are prohibitively expensive for me to use them though. I prefer hunting in my Pilgrim when I can't log my alt on to scout. If I can, I go in my Myrm, which is pretty similar, but has twice the tank and twice the DPS (but no neuts).
I agree with this for solo/gang PvP, but he was asking what his alt could use to tackle, to hold for his main which would be warping in. In this case, I think the tank/dmg mitigation of the pilgrim out weight the webs from a Rapier as I imagine he's ganking slow missioning BSs/BCs and not pvp fit nano stuff. ie, from a strictly temporary tackling standpoint.
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