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So I've started playing EVE again and it seems like low-sec exploration has gotten a lot more lucrative. Have I just been getting lucky or did CCP decide to make low-sec a more profitable place to probe?
 
I realized it's time for me to bite the bullet and start training the skills for strategic cruisers. One of my favorite activities is null-sec ninja exploration (I don't play enough to get into a corp that controls any 0.0 space so I have to sneak in on my own) which I've been doing with a prototype cloak-equipped Drake and an alt that flies a covert ops ship. That's kind of a clunky setup since the alt can sneak in almost anywhere but if I run into a gate camp with it I know the Drake has no chance of making it through. The thought of what I could do with a couple of cloaky Tengus is intriguing.
 
ichy said:
I realized it's time for me to bite the bullet and start training the skills for strategic cruisers. One of my favorite activities is null-sec ninja exploration (I don't play enough to get into a corp that controls any 0.0 space so I have to sneak in on my own) which I've been doing with a prototype cloak-equipped Drake and an alt that flies a covert ops ship. That's kind of a clunky setup since the alt can sneak in almost anywhere but if I run into a gate camp with it I know the Drake has no chance of making it through. The thought of what I could do with a couple of cloaky Tengus is intriguing.
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Just know that the Tengu is being nerfed significantly through the nerf of HML's (assuming that's what you will use, and not HAM's). But yes, an inderdiction nullified, covert Ops T3 of any time is nearly impossible to catch by a gate camp.
 
1ceHacka said:
Just know that the Tengu is being nerfed significantly through the nerf of HML's (assuming that's what you will use, and not HAM's). But yes, an inderdiction nullified, covert Ops T3 of any time is nearly impossible to catch by a gate camp.
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HML nerf? Shitty news for Drake pilots everywhere.
 
1ceHacka said:
Just know that the Tengu is being nerfed significantly through the nerf of HML's (assuming that's what you will use, and not HAM's). But yes, an inderdiction nullified, covert Ops T3 of any time is nearly impossible to catch by a gate camp.
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So the gatecamping cry babies finally got that ship nerfed. LOL!

Drake being nerfed too? Not surprised. Hopefully the other BCs will be worth flying. I would love to see the Myrm get back its 5 Heavy Drones. Like that will ever happen again. 🙂

Terrible about Vile Rat. I didn't know him personally but we ran into each other enough times for me to feel saddened about his death.

Shit got real. 🙁
 
I haven't had time to really read up on the Drake nerf but I have mixed feelings about it. I'm kind of bummed since I fly Drakes most of the time, but they're also so commonplace in low-sec that I'd like to see a bit of an incentive to use more variety. IMO nerfing heavy missiles by 20% AND gutting the Drake is too much, too fast.
 
ichy said:
I haven't had time to really read up on the Drake nerf but I have mixed feelings about it. I'm kind of bummed since I fly Drakes most of the time, but they're also so commonplace in low-sec that I'd like to see a bit of an incentive to use more variety. IMO nerfing heavy missiles by 20% AND gutting the Drake is too much, too fast.
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I don't have the specifics right now as I'm at work, but from what I was told the nerfs will be rebalanced with buffs to the hull at a later date.
 
Just started checking this game out again. Played it briefly quite a few years ago. Sort of getting ramped up again running the military newbie missions. Was wondering: is there anything like an NPC merchant where you can sell lower-value stuff that you loot? Or does everything go through the player market?
 
Don't run missions! You'll hate the game and want to quit!

And no, there are no NPC merchants for most loot. The whole point of EVE is that economy is almost entirely player driven.
 
Markbnj said:
Just started checking this game out again. Played it briefly quite a few years ago. Sort of getting ramped up again running the military newbie missions. Was wondering: is there anything like an NPC merchant where you can sell lower-value stuff that you loot? Or does everything go through the player market?
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Depending on how much you plan on looting, and what skills you may already have trained, there are some third-party tools that can analyze your inventory and current market data to tell you if selling it outright is more profitable than refining it and selling the minerals.

They have made a lot of adjustments to what drops from NPCs, so refining loot isn't nearly as much of a mineral faucet as it used to be (a good thing, even though I do it a lot), but it's still often worth it to refine a lot of the stuff that's less than meta 4 and sell the minerals instead.

As Ichy said though, don't rely on mission running as your sole source of income and entertainment in the game, unless you just really, really love it. There's so much else to do that can make more money or be much more fun, like factional warfare, exploration, etc.

Mission running is still the best (only?) way to raise faction standings though, so they are a necessary evil if you don't have a really good set of great standings already.
 
I'm only running the university training missions as a way of getting back up to speed and earning a few ISK. Not sure what I will do when I'm done with them, but I expect I'll spend more time exploring than anything else.

So for loot that doesn't look to have a ready market refining and selling the mats is the way to go?
 
I think I'm done with Eve, just can't get back into it sadly. Going to see if I can find a place to sell off my account, my character should get a good offer since I have a set of HG slaves in her and another clone has a set of +4's and at like 64 mill SP very little of it is wasted at all and the character is very focused.
 
Markbnj said:
I'm only running the university training missions as a way of getting back up to speed and earning a few ISK. Not sure what I will do when I'm done with them, but I expect I'll spend more time exploring than anything else.

So for loot that doesn't look to have a ready market refining and selling the mats is the way to go?
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Well, it does for me, because I have good standings and perfect refining skills for loot (about 1.5 months total training time IIRC). I get 98.875% or something in the high sec stations where I run missions. With low standings you lose a lot to taxes, and with lower skills you lose a lot to waste. In lowsec or null, you'd lose even more because the stations have lower starting efficiencies too, which isn't offset until you have a lot of stuff to level V.

A couple of the good tools will take your skills into account in the melt vs. sell equation to give you a realistic estimated profit. My tool of choice is EveRefinery.

I haven't gathered anything recently since I hardly play any more, but I do check EveRefinery every time they tweak a few things, and I still have a hangar full of crap from my last missioning binge that it tells me will sell as minerals for at least twice what it would sell for as loot.

If you are at all thinking of doing PvP, listen to Kaotik, Malladine and Ichy for words of wisdom on that, and how to get started. I'm the kind of player that they crave tears from, and I never leave high sec. :whiste:
 
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