Euthinized puppy rises from dead - looking for new family.

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eits

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Why waste the money? These shelters don't have enough money as it is. Cremating the dogs or performing some other proper burial would only reduce their budget and allow them to keep less dogs alive.

Also, why does it even matter? You think the dog cares what happens to it after it dies? There aren't any family members around who care about how the dead dog is treated.

Heck, they should sell the dogs for meat. You might as well get something useful out of the experience.

i find it inhumane. it was a live animal who's sole purpose was to bring pleasure to humans. to discard it in such a manner is disgusting, in my opinion. they should have fundraisers in the name of cremating euthanized animals rather than throwing them in the trash... people would gladly give money to keep that from happening.
 

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i find it inhumane. it was a live animal who's sole purpose was to bring pleasure to humans. to discard it in such a manner is disgusting, in my opinion. they should have fundraisers in the name of cremating euthanized animals rather than throwing them in the trash... people would gladly give money to keep that from happening.

How irrational. The money should go to keeping more alive, not treating dead animals better.
 

eits

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How irrational. The money should go to keeping more alive, not treating dead animals better.

well, yeah, but it's a kill shelter, obviously. it would take too much money from donors to try keeping them alive. yeah, obviously, keeping them alive is preferable... but when they can't, what're they supposed to do? at least treat them humanely. tossing them in the garbage isn't ok.
 

NetGuySC

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i find it inhumane. it was a live animal who's sole purpose was to bring pleasure to humans. to discard it in such a manner is disgusting, in my opinion. they should have fundraisers in the name of cremating euthanized animals rather than throwing them in the trash... people would gladly give money to keep that from happening.

People would never donate enough money to cremate dead animals. If you think the donation dollars are out there you should really try it. A crematorium costs about $75000 and to cremate 500 to 800 pounds of animal takes a full day of constant burning. I do not know the amount of gas to do this but it is huge I am sure. I believe, in ten years, that all caracsses will be processed in a crematorium. Currently if you euthanize animal with lethal injection. If you discard that animal in a landfill there is a chance that a buzzard or other scavenger will eat the remains and then too die from euthanasia solution remaining in the carcass.

It is a waste, I think it is much better to use the animal carcasses for educational purposes. Most of the public rejects of the use of animal carcasses being used by schools for Biology labs, so they continue spending tax dollars to transport and dump the remains in a landfill.

An animal carcass in a bag are much easier and more sanitary to handle, thats why it is put in a bag.

When most people think of animals being euthanised and then disposed of they think of one animal (an old pet). You have to realise the scale of what is processed in many animal shelters and humane societies nationwide. The one I worked in brought in 8000 animals a year, they had 78 dog pens and 80 cat pens. Some of the larger shelters bring in 20,000+ animals. Everyone wants a shelter to be no-kill and to reform all the feral animals to loving pets but the fact is that they do not have the money, room or time to save this many animals.

If you look at the small shelter I worked at with 8000 animals a year intake. let's say that adoptions and natural death eliminated 20% of the animals a year, that still leaves 6400 animals. Let's assume that half are dogs so now we are housing 3200 animals into 78 pens for a grand total of 41 dogs per pen. The pens are 8 foot deep and about 5 foot wide.. you see where this is going.. You also have to now realise with tis many animals in inventory that we long stopped accepting animals from the public. So if you have a mean pit bull killing you pet or an injured animal on the side of the road that was suffering, both of the animals would stay right where they are until room was found at the animal shelter, ie months
 
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eits

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People would never donate enough money to cremate dead animals. If you think the donation dollars are out there you should really try it. A crematorium costs about $75000 and to cremate 500 to 800 pounds of animal takes a full day of constant burning. I do not know the amount of gas to do this but it is huge I am sure. I believe, in ten years, that all caracsses will be processed in a crematorium. Currently if you euthanize animal with lethal injection. If you discard that animal in a landfill there is a chance that a buzzard or other scavenger will eat the remains and then too die from euthanasia solution remaining in the carcass.

It is a waste, I think it is much better to use the animal carcasses for educational purposes. Most of the public rejects of the use of animal carcasses being used by schools for Biology labs, so they continue spending tax dollars to transport and dump the remains in a landfill.

An animal carcass in a bag are much easier and more sanitary to handle, thats why it is put in a bag.

When most people think of animals being euthanised and then disposed of they think of one animal (an old pet). You have to realise the scale of what is processed in many animal shelters and humane societies nationwide. The one I worked in brought in 8000 animals a year, they had 78 dog pens and 80 cat pens. Some of the larger shelters bring in 20,000+ animals. Everyone wants a shelter to be no-kill and to reform all the feral animals to loving pets but the fact is that they do not have the money, room or time to save this many animals.

If you look at the small shelter I worked at with 8000 animals a year intake. let's say that adoptions and natural death eliminated 20% of the animals a year, that still leaves 6400 animals. Let's assume that half are dogs so now we are housing 3200 animals into 78 pens for a grand total of 41 dogs per pen. The pens are 8 foot deep and about 5 foot wide.. you see where this is going.. You also have to now realise with tis many animals in inventory that we long stopped accepting animals from the public. So if you have a mean pit bull killing you pet or an injured animal on the side of the road that was suffering, both of the animals would stay right where they are until room was found at the animal shelter, ie months

i see your point. i just don't like the idea of tossing them in a trashcan...
 

kami333

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From what I see, the dog received two lethal doses of a sedative. It is my understanding that sedatives are labeled to be used to only sedate an animal not euthanize it. Here in SC I believe it is illegal to try to euthanise a dog by over sedating it. If a proper euthanasia drug was incorrectly administered by missing the heart or vein, if the animal was given the proper dosage by weight, the death will still occur but be very delayed, Instead of the normal 5 or 10 minutes for death to ocur, it may take 30 to 60 minutes.

There are other types of drugs that should be used after the animal is sedated to properly euthanize an animal. This one is the more popular ones. It is a schedule 2 narcotic I believe... http://www.drugs.com/vet/fatal-plus-solution.html This works basically by making the brain tell the heart and lungs to stop functioning.

If they tried to over sedate the animal as the story states, then that is the most likely the reason the dog came back to life, the sedation just wore off, much like the numbness eventually wears off after a visit to the dentist.

The sedation product label give useage amounts on the ability to sedate not euthanise an animal. Even if this amount was doubled, death would not be likely.

I think the author was just sloppy in investigating and reporting.

Pentobarbital is approved by the FDA for sedation in humans and sodium thiopental used to be administered as an anesthetic. These are the drugs that are normally used in euthanasia, just in higher doses. A lot of people just use the commercial formulations such as the Fatal-Plus and Beuthanasia (who comes up with these names?) but it's perfectly acceptable to use generics.