Europe a good model for the U.S.?

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: tss4

against which ethnic group in France? I'm just trying to understand where your deep concern over France is coming from. Given the instability in other parts of the world, you make a pretty bold claim that ww3 will start in France, yet you've been a little short on explaining yourself.

I believe that it would be against Muslims and non-whites. Like I said, there is instability elsewhere in the world, but I personally believe that it's more likely to start again in Europe. Some of my reasons for choosing France include:

1) The far-right is popular. 20% of the population voted for a racist supremacist who denies the Holocaust, etc. The ranks of the far-right is increasing.
2) The general unhappiness of the French population
3) Demographics - aging and decreasing population
4) Prime location to spread war - one of the main EU powers starting a genocide. I think that Germany would side with France with the UK against. That would be 3 decent sized powers fighting each other in Europe itself.
5) France has recent experience with genocide with their actions in Rwanda a decade ago.

etc.

I think that there are instabilities around the world, but not many would cause a WW3 situation.

Well, I think your completely wrong, but time will tell. Got any idea on a time table?

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Mardeth, CanOWormwn for being a bit off, so you can prolly just ignore him! You know, just from his last post it's obvious!

My visions of the future scare you. In typical European fashion, you ignore what is happening. until it will be too late

That's unfair. The US is no stranger of ignoring what is happening. (WW1, WW2) You seem to have some sort of problem with Europe in general. You pointed to high suicide rates in Europe but it turns out that Europe on average is actaully at about where the US is. So you seem to be interpreting data strangely to say the least. Is this an idealogical problem with a more socialist society or something else?

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: tss4

That's unfair. The US is no stranger of ignoring what is happening. (WW1, WW2) You seem to have some sort of problem with Europe in general. You pointed to high suicide rates in Europe but it turns out that Europe on average is actaully at about where the US is. So you seem to be interpreting data strangely to say the least. Is this an idealogical problem with a more socialist society or something else?

I think that you have me confused with someone else. I have never talked about suicide rates in Europe.

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: tss4

against which ethnic group in France? I'm just trying to understand where your deep concern over France is coming from. Given the instability in other parts of the world, you make a pretty bold claim that ww3 will start in France, yet you've been a little short on explaining yourself.

I believe that it would be against Muslims and non-whites. Like I said, there is instability elsewhere in the world, but I personally believe that it's more likely to start again in Europe. Some of my reasons for choosing France include:

1) The far-right is popular. 20% of the population voted for a racist supremacist who denies the Holocaust, etc. The ranks of the far-right is increasing.
2) The general unhappiness of the French population
3) Demographics - aging and decreasing population
4) Prime location to spread war - one of the main EU powers starting a genocide. I think that Germany would side with France with the UK against. That would be 3 decent sized powers fighting each other in Europe itself.
5) France has recent experience with genocide with their actions in Rwanda a decade ago.

etc.

I think that there are instabilities around the world, but not many would cause a WW3 situation.

1) Many of the people voted for him because they are stupid, and they just want stop some massive immigration. Besides, i don't know what Le Pen believes and doesn't, by that you might be right even if i doubt it.
2) Wth?
3) And that's gonna lead to what, maybe instability and more reforms, saying genocide would be quite a leap.
4) So, you're saying that because they lie dead center in europe, they're more likely to kill loads and loads of people?`
5) I've never seen any evidence for such actions. Exceept for your crazy ramblings ofcourse.

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: tss4

That's unfair. The US is no stranger of ignoring what is happening. (WW1, WW2) You seem to have some sort of problem with Europe in general. You pointed to high suicide rates in Europe but it turns out that Europe on average is actaully at about where the US is. So you seem to be interpreting data strangely to say the least. Is this an idealogical problem with a more socialist society or something else?

I think that you have me confused with someone else. I have never talked about suicide rates in Europe.

I meant that you said they are the "most unhappy and depressed people". Do you not have any comments with respect to the actual post itself?

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

1) Many of the people voted for him because they are stupid, and they just want stop some massive immigration. Besides, i don't know what Le Pen believes and doesn't, by that you might be right even if i doubt it.

Yes, pro-genocidal maniacs are stupid.

2) Wth?

Wth?

3) And that's gonna lead to what, maybe instability and more reforms, saying genocide would be quite a leap.

Yes, it will lead to a genocide. I don't think that the French will let the ethnically French decrease in numbers while minorities increase.

4) So, you're saying that because they lie dead center in europe, they're more likely to kill loads and loads of people?

No

5) I've never seen any evidence for such actions. Exceept for your crazy ramblings ofcourse.

Denying it is crazy rambling.

Inquiry launched into French role in Rwanda genocide

French soldier admits Rwanda genocide training

UN-backed tribunal has sufficient evidence to try French officials for genocide

France to be sued for genocide, French soldiers seen throwing genocide refugees out of helicopters

Nah, France wasn't involved with a genocide! Hey, maybe there was no genocide at all!

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: tss4

I meant that you said they are the "most unhappy and depressed people". Do you not have any comments with respect to the actual post itself?

I did not say that they were "the most unhappy and depressed people." I said that they were "one of the most unhappy and depressed people." That's a pretty big difference.

This is not an ideological problem. I don't care if someone is more socialist or not.

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Forsythe

1) Many of the people voted for him because they are stupid, and they just want stop some massive immigration. Besides, i don't know what Le Pen believes and doesn't, by that you might be right even if i doubt it.

Yes, pro-genocidal maniacs are stupid.

2) Wth?

Wth?

3) And that's gonna lead to what, maybe instability and more reforms, saying genocide would be quite a leap.

Yes, it will lead to a genocide. I don't think that the French will let the ethnically French decrease in numbers while minorities increase.

4) So, you're saying that because they lie dead center in europe, they're more likely to kill loads and loads of people?

No

5) I've never seen any evidence for such actions. Exceept for your crazy ramblings ofcourse.

Denying it is crazy rambling.

Inquiry launched into French role in Rwanda genocide

French soldier admits Rwanda genocide training

UN-backed tribunal has sufficient evidence to try French officials for genocide

France to be sued for genocide, French soldiers seen throwing genocide refugees out of helicopters

Nah, France wasn't involved with a genocide!

Heh, if you read articles like this and you as a result assume that they mastered the genocide, you're even more insane then i thought.
Now, something happened (i don't know how much i trust the current rwanda'n government), but what happened is unknown, and common sense would dictate that it's more likely that there perhaps were some bad seeds, but most likely that many of the rwandan's are lying, not all ofcourse.
But most of the accusations are from rwandan's. However, there were a few comments about slow trial, which might be true and should be investigated, but that page (afrol news) doesn't look very unbiased, atleast not the article.

 

[Forsythe]

And don't you think it's a bit funny that noone is accusing them, except you, for doing this. Not even any media?
Take off your tinfoil hat.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Heh, if you read articles like this and you as a result assume that they mastered the genocide, you're even more insane then i thought.
Now, something happened (i don't know how much i trust the current rwanda'n government), but what happened is unknown, and common sense would dictate that it's more likely that there perhaps were some bad seeds, but most likely that many of the rwandan's are lying, not all ofcourse.
But most of the accusations are from rwandan's. However, there were a few comments about slow trial, which might be true and should be investigated, but that page (afrol news) doesn't look very unbiased, atleast not the article.

The accusations come from journalists, diplomats, refugee survivors, government officials, French soldiers, aid groups, etc. They are not only from Rwandans.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Forsythe
And don't you think it's a bit funny that noone is accusing them, except you, for doing this. Not even any media?
Take off your tinfoil hat.

You're the one who needs to remove your tinfoil hat. You must believe that man did not land on the moon.

The media has accused them, including Le Figaro as well as many authors who have written books on this subject. Like I've said, the accusations come from all sorts of people.

Continue to not believe and live in a fairy tale land...

 

[imported_tss4]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: tss4

I meant that you said they are the "most unhappy and depressed people". Do you not have any comments with respect to the actual post itself?

I did not say that they were "the most unhappy and depressed people." I said that they were "one of the most unhappy and depressed people." That's a pretty big difference.

This is not an ideological problem. I don't care if someone is more socialist or not.

huge difference. but I'll let it drop.