CanOWorms: Who will start WWIII in France? The North Koreans or something? No-one can challenge the EU millitary except the US.
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"The French are one of the most unhappy and depressed people."....
Yea, all that drinking wine and partying really gets you down.
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"The French are one of the most unhappy and depressed people."....
Yea, all that drinking wine and partying really gets you down.
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Of course it is biased, it is an opinion piece!
Anarchism/anarcho-capitalism is actually growing, as evidenced by the large number of resources on the web about anarchism/anarcho-capitalism. It is also a theory being researched by a number of economists in various institutes such as the Ludwig von Mises Institute.
mises.org
praxeology.net
There is even a movie coming out about a fictional 'anarchist.'
vforvendetta
Yea, coz all cartoons ar full of drinking and partying...
Honestly I don't think the french are unhappy, the article you link doesn't reference any kind of happiness survey, it's just political crap.
TastesLikeChicken
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Discussing the Europe and US is like debating the Mac and the PC. They're just too different to compare and each has its positives and negatives.
But keep in mind that Apple is going Intel.
But keep in mind that Apple is going Intel.
It would be nice if people on this side of the pond weren't such soulless drones. That's one part of the European model the whole world should emulate.
I've always wondered how certain European countries will feel once some of their more ill treated former colonies surpass them.
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CanOfWorms, your WWIII is quite stupid. I hope your joking. Even if France started a genocide (wtf?) and other would attack France to stop it. France would fall in a matter of days, maybe weeks. It would have no allies. Alone and in chaos it would hardly be a match for the rest of Europe...
Not to mention its WW2 era military. There's no way they could stand against the UK, Russia, or any of the major players in the region. Plus, what oppressed group would be the victim of this genocide? Genocides don't just happen, They're caused by long stading and deep rooted prejudices.
I just don't understand how you could single France out. I could be completely off base here, but it sounds more like you have a problem with France in general.... possibly their criticism of the US?
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Discussing the Europe and US is like debating the Mac and the PC. They're just too different to compare and each has its positives and negatives.
But keep in mind that Apple is going Intel.
:thumbsup:
and keep in mind alot of pc owners are hyped over a x86 version of mac os
What the hell kind of a statement is this?
"No-one can challenge the EU millitary except the US."
Why is it that we bombed Kosavo? Can't Europe fight it's own Air Battle? Why do we have to cooperate only when France or Europe feels the need to cooperate? Where is this might European Army that does not exist?
How many troops do they have in total? How many divisions?
I say EU has no military force that can defend against a real attack in Europe!
Why do we have troops in Germany, and Italy, and SHAPE (Belgium) (Spell)
Let them defend themselves if they have such a great military fighting force!
"No-one can challenge the EU millitary except the US."
Why is it that we bombed Kosavo? Can't Europe fight it's own Air Battle? Why do we have to cooperate only when France or Europe feels the need to cooperate? Where is this might European Army that does not exist?
How many troops do they have in total? How many divisions?
I say EU has no military force that can defend against a real attack in Europe!
Why do we have troops in Germany, and Italy, and SHAPE (Belgium) (Spell)
Let them defend themselves if they have such a great military fighting force!
TastesLikeChicken
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Many PC owners aren't hyped though because they know Apple is keeping their OS proprietary to their own hardware.Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Discussing the Europe and US is like debating the Mac and the PC. They're just too different to compare and each has its positives and negatives.
But keep in mind that Apple is going Intel.
:thumbsup:
and keep in mind alot of pc owners are hyped over a x86 version of mac os
As a european, I think that as usual everyone argues their side of the fence.. I think both systems have their weaknesses.. Euope is standing at the craddle of a united government, but we're got a very logn way to go, before national govenrments will give up their rights to govern to a European government, which is what needs to happen. I'd say Europe will become a federally/state-like run country like the US. but hopefuly we will remain true to some european beliefs like caring for our sick and elderly and unemployed. The things I do not like in the U.S.A. is the way that the rich get richer and the poor keep getting the raw deal. Also the environmental aspects deserve more attention (see the new energybill in the U.S.) and I very much hope we do not fall prey to goverments which are in a way just fronts for rich and big companies (oil, guns etc). We all have our flaws I suppose I just don't think either one is a good model for goverment imho. One is too much centered around the concensus (Europe) so that nothing gets done. The other is moving towards a 'every man for himself' (U.S) and all for a dollar.
Here's an interesting link to a new form of government: http://www.extremedemocracy.com/
The depressing energy bill: http://spewingforth.blogspot.com/2005/0...y-bill-gift-from-best-legislators.html
Here's an interesting link to a new form of government: http://www.extremedemocracy.com/
The depressing energy bill: http://spewingforth.blogspot.com/2005/0...y-bill-gift-from-best-legislators.html
lol, thats a line of BS,
happier? Suicide Rates - Top 25 countries. Wow, European countries take 24 of the top 25 spots, with Japan sneaking in at #21 Ya you guys are all smiles over there.
Train: Yeah, right, well, here in Europe we just admitted Sri Lanka; Russia joined years ago, and Kazakhstan is right next to France. Perhaps you need to look at a map... The US comes in at 30 (odd you didn't talk about the top 50, eh?) while the UK falls in at no. 46, but we're not part of Europe (I guess, according to your map) so that's okay... Egypt's down at no. 79 with 20 times (or more, the accuracy isn't there) less people killing themselves than in the US. Does that mean everyone is happy as can be in Egypt?
Most of those European countries are eastern European. totally different situation. As for the rest, sure France, Germany, and Switzerland are ranked higher than us, but just as many are ranked lower, Italy, Spain, UK, Norway, etc. So if you want to point to particular countires then fine, but Europe as a whole isn't any worse off than us. People weren't making the point that Europeans were happier than us. We were criticising those here that were saying that Europeans are some how less happy than we are. The numbers (even the ones you linked to) just don't show it. And more importantly the people I know that live there don't feel that way.
I don't understand why you feel the need to make Europeans sound unhappy and suicidal? Does it make our country seem any better by doing so? If you had some real undisputable proof then it would be worth looking at, but so far its just peoples opinoins or very selective interpretations of numbers. So it seems you're kind of stretching to make a case that isn't there. And I know your a fairly smart fellow, so I'm not sure what your motivations for doing so would be.
I don't understand why you're so "wtf" about France starting a genocide. They orchestrated the Rwanda genocide, so it's definitely not far-fetched. I don't think that they would be without allies within Europe and abroad.
against which ethnic group in France? I'm just trying to understand where your deep concern over France is coming from. Given the instability in other parts of the world, you make a pretty bold claim that ww3 will start in France, yet you've been a little short on explaining yourself.
Mardeth, CanOWormwn for being a bit off, so you can prolly just ignore him! You know, just from his last post it's obvious!
I believe that it would be against Muslims and non-whites. Like I said, there is instability elsewhere in the world, but I personally believe that it's more likely to start again in Europe. Some of my reasons for choosing France include:
1) The far-right is popular. 20% of the population voted for a racist supremacist who denies the Holocaust, etc. The ranks of the far-right is increasing.
2) The general unhappiness of the French population
3) Demographics - aging and decreasing population
4) Prime location to spread war - one of the main EU powers starting a genocide. I think that Germany would side with France with the UK against. That would be 3 decent sized powers fighting each other in Europe itself.
5) France has recent experience with genocide with their actions in Rwanda a decade ago.
etc.
I think that there are instabilities around the world, but not many would cause a WW3 situation.
My visions of the future scare you. In typical European fashion, you ignore what is happening. until it will be too late
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