EU slaps a record fine on Intel

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
who keeps the money? eu? or amd?
if eu..then screw them.

If AMD received a large chunk of it, I might actually support this fine.

Yea so who does get it? Does anyone know?

EU does. The reason is because EU consumers were hurt by the anti-competitive practices and that's the way it should be.

However, this opens the door for AMD to file a civil suit against Intel in European courts for damages.

Wow so the government will basically just keep it.

And this is what people in America want? LOL - fucking incredible

no kidding, boycott european cars.

i have no trust in the eu being fair. look at their absurd witchhunt against microsoft about bundling the browser. it looks more and more ridiculous by the day. just economic warfare under the guise of justice.

 

[InflatableBuddha]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
who keeps the money? eu? or amd?
if eu..then screw them.

If AMD received a large chunk of it, I might actually support this fine.

Yea so who does get it? Does anyone know?

EU does. The reason is because EU consumers were hurt by the anti-competitive practices and that's the way it should be.

However, this opens the door for AMD to file a civil suit against Intel in European courts for damages.

This.

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
who keeps the money? eu? or amd?
if eu..then screw them.

If AMD received a large chunk of it, I might actually support this fine.

Yea so who does get it? Does anyone know?

EU does. The reason is because EU consumers were hurt by the anti-competitive practices and that's the way it should be.

However, this opens the door for AMD to file a civil suit against Intel in European courts for damages.

Wow so the government will basically just keep it.

And this is what people in America want? LOL - fucking incredible

no kidding, boycott european cars.

i have no trust in the eu being fair. look at their absurd witchhunt against microsoft about bundling the browser. it looks more and more ridiculous by the day. just economic warfare under the guise of justice.

I swear you guys are just retarded sometimes.

 

[thescreensavers]

It was really bad when the New Athlons and X2 came out which were rapping Intel badly.

 

[InflatableBuddha]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Wow so the government will basically just keep it.

And this is what people in America want? LOL - fucking incredible

no kidding, boycott european cars.

i have no trust in the eu being fair. look at their absurd witchhunt against microsoft about bundling the browser. it looks more and more ridiculous by the day. just economic warfare under the guise of justice.

/facepalm

No, it's about keeping competition in the marketplace, and preventing monopolistic practices, which ultimately hurt the consumer. A completely "free" market is not in the best interests of anyone except the largest corporations, and it fucks over everyone else. You need some regulations.

Imagine if GM were paying rental companies to only stock GM vehicles, preventing them from buying other brands. Imagine if they were offering hidden rebates on condition that these rental companies only buy GM vehicles.

Then, whenever you go to a rent a vehicle, you couldn't choose a Mercedes-Benz or a Toyota; you would be stuck with a GM vehicle even if you didn't want one. How is that right?

You've been so brainwashed by "free market" bullshit that you can no longer recognize that this is a just decision in all respects.

 

[0roo0roo]

no, its just that the microsoft browser issue they keep bringing up shows that their judgement can be rather dodgy, so you putting so much faith in their judgments of wrong doing is a bit unfounded.

 

[jpeyton]

Surprised it wasn't more. Make it an even $2 billion. Make it hurt enough that they won't do it again.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
who keeps the money? eu? or amd?
if eu..then screw them.

If AMD received a large chunk of it, I might actually support this fine.

Yea so who does get it? Does anyone know?

EU does. The reason is because EU consumers were hurt by the anti-competitive practices and that's the way it should be.

However, this opens the door for AMD to file a civil suit against Intel in European courts for damages.

Wow so the government will basically just keep it.

And this is what people in America want? LOL - fucking incredible

no kidding, boycott european cars.

*rabble rabble rabble*

FREEDOM FRIES!

*rabble rabble rabble*

:roll:

 

[Slew Foot]

Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Wow so the government will basically just keep it.

And this is what people in America want? LOL - fucking incredible

no kidding, boycott european cars.

i have no trust in the eu being fair. look at their absurd witchhunt against microsoft about bundling the browser. it looks more and more ridiculous by the day. just economic warfare under the guise of justice.

/facepalm

No, it's about keeping competition in the marketplace, and preventing monopolistic practices, which ultimately hurt the consumer. A completely "free" market is not in the best interests of anyone except the largest corporations, and it fucks over everyone else. You need some regulations.

Imagine if GM were paying rental companies to only stock GM vehicles, preventing them from buying other brands. Imagine if they were offering hidden rebates on condition that these rental companies only buy GM vehicles.

Then, whenever you go to a rent a vehicle, you couldn't choose a Mercedes-Benz or a Toyota; you would be stuck with a GM vehicle even if you didn't want one. How is that right?

You've been so brainwashed by "free market" bullshit that you can no longer recognize that this is a just decision in all respects.

So then why wouldnt Toyota or some other company decided to pay said rental company more to exclusively stock thier cars?

 

[frostedflakes]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
no, its just that the microsoft browser issue they keep bringing up shows that their judgement can be rather dodgy, so you putting so much faith in their judgments of wrong doing is a bit unfounded.

I'll agree that the Microsoft case was kind of bogus, seemed to be more politically motivated than anything. It think these fines against Intel are actually justified, though.

 

[13Gigatons]

The EU has fined European monopolies just as much so it's not an anti-American thing.

 

[James Bond]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot

Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Wow so the government will basically just keep it.

And this is what people in America want? LOL - fucking incredible

no kidding, boycott european cars.

i have no trust in the eu being fair. look at their absurd witchhunt against microsoft about bundling the browser. it looks more and more ridiculous by the day. just economic warfare under the guise of justice.

/facepalm

No, it's about keeping competition in the marketplace, and preventing monopolistic practices, which ultimately hurt the consumer. A completely "free" market is not in the best interests of anyone except the largest corporations, and it fucks over everyone else. You need some regulations.

Imagine if GM were paying rental companies to only stock GM vehicles, preventing them from buying other brands. Imagine if they were offering hidden rebates on condition that these rental companies only buy GM vehicles.

Then, whenever you go to a rent a vehicle, you couldn't choose a Mercedes-Benz or a Toyota; you would be stuck with a GM vehicle even if you didn't want one. How is that right?

You've been so brainwashed by "free market" bullshit that you can no longer recognize that this is a just decision in all respects.

So then why wouldnt Toyota or some other company decided to pay said rental company more to exclusively stock thier cars?

Because only companies with tons of money could compete.

 

[InflatableBuddha]

Originally posted by: James Bond

Originally posted by: Slew Foot

So then why wouldnt Toyota or some other company decided to pay said rental company more to exclusively stock thier cars?

Because only companies with tons of money could compete.[/quote]

Yep, you would create a bidding war and lock out any smaller companies who nonetheless have competing products. In that example, it would be down to GM and Toyota, and no one else (Ford, Honda, Nissan, etc.) has the financial clout to compete, even though they also offer good products.

I don't believe any company should be allowed to buy the marketplace and use its weight to force other companies out.

As someone else pointed out, the long term effect would be only one entity (a mega-corporation) selling all products, and no choice at all. Sounds remarkably similar to communism, no?

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: James Bond

Originally posted by: Slew Foot

Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Wow so the government will basically just keep it.

And this is what people in America want? LOL - fucking incredible

no kidding, boycott european cars.

i have no trust in the eu being fair. look at their absurd witchhunt against microsoft about bundling the browser. it looks more and more ridiculous by the day. just economic warfare under the guise of justice.

/facepalm

No, it's about keeping competition in the marketplace, and preventing monopolistic practices, which ultimately hurt the consumer. A completely "free" market is not in the best interests of anyone except the largest corporations, and it fucks over everyone else. You need some regulations.

Imagine if GM were paying rental companies to only stock GM vehicles, preventing them from buying other brands. Imagine if they were offering hidden rebates on condition that these rental companies only buy GM vehicles.

Then, whenever you go to a rent a vehicle, you couldn't choose a Mercedes-Benz or a Toyota; you would be stuck with a GM vehicle even if you didn't want one. How is that right?

You've been so brainwashed by "free market" bullshit that you can no longer recognize that this is a just decision in all respects.

So then why wouldnt Toyota or some other company decided to pay said rental company more to exclusively stock thier cars?

Because only companies with tons of money could compete.

those costs are passed on to the consumer... you really think it costs 45k to build a truck?

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot

Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo

Originally posted by: AMDZen

Wow so the government will basically just keep it.

And this is what people in America want? LOL - fucking incredible

no kidding, boycott european cars.

i have no trust in the eu being fair. look at their absurd witchhunt against microsoft about bundling the browser. it looks more and more ridiculous by the day. just economic warfare under the guise of justice.

/facepalm

No, it's about keeping competition in the marketplace, and preventing monopolistic practices, which ultimately hurt the consumer. A completely "free" market is not in the best interests of anyone except the largest corporations, and it fucks over everyone else. You need some regulations.

Imagine if GM were paying rental companies to only stock GM vehicles, preventing them from buying other brands. Imagine if they were offering hidden rebates on condition that these rental companies only buy GM vehicles.

Then, whenever you go to a rent a vehicle, you couldn't choose a Mercedes-Benz or a Toyota; you would be stuck with a GM vehicle even if you didn't want one. How is that right?

You've been so brainwashed by "free market" bullshit that you can no longer recognize that this is a just decision in all respects.

So then why wouldnt Toyota or some other company decided to pay said rental company more to exclusively stock thier cars?

Because GM's anti-competitive practices would have crippled Toyota's ability to do the same thing. It also stifles any new-comers to the market for the same reasons.

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: frostedflakes

Originally posted by: OogyWaWa
wouldn't be such a big deal if AMD would put out some decent chips. ever since c2d came out, AMD has been lacking big time. so sad. i loved my athlons :'(

The problem is that Intel's practices during the heydey of the Athlon64 really prevented AMD from capitalizing on its superior architecture. AMD probably would have been better off today if Intel hadn't done so much to shut them out of the market.

It's a shame our own regulatory agencies don't seem to be interested in investigating stuff like this.

Since when has the US Government been interest in fair play in the business world?