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EU expands at Midnight: adds 10 nations; 25 total 450 million Citizens

Originally posted by: maddogchen
maybe the Euro will come tumbling down, so I can actually afford an European vacation
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Oh I'd love that... planning to go to europe this summer!
 
Originally posted by: maddogchen
maybe the Euro will come tumbling down, so I can actually afford an European vacation
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It really hurt to pay almost 80 US dollars for a tank of gas when I was there in the fall.
 
Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: maddogchen
maybe the Euro will come tumbling down, so I can actually afford an European vacation
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Oh I'd love that... planning to go to europe this summer!
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Where are you planning to go? I want to go see Italy, Rome and Milan, and maybe Florence
 
Originally posted by: maddogchen
Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: maddogchen
maybe the Euro will come tumbling down, so I can actually afford an European vacation
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Oh I'd love that... planning to go to europe this summer!
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Where are you planning to go? I want to go see Italy, Rome and Milan, and maybe Florence
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Doesn't saying Italy cover all 3?😉
 
Originally posted by: burnedout
Meanwhile, even though Turkey has held NATO membership for 52 years, the 'great' Jacques Chirac says that the Turks aren't fit for entry into the EU.
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The Turks need to stop killing Kurds, routinely using torture in thier security services, and a whole host of other human rights issues before they can enter the EU.
 
They're bringing in countries like Slovenia that have the same ideals as them. They're probably hoping to learn something from them.

4/5/2004:

More than 18,000 mostly Bosnians, Croats and Serbs were officially erased from state records after Slovenia declared its independence in 1991. The move effectively made them non-persons in the eyes of the government.

In a referendum Sunday, 95 percent of the voters denied restoring the rights to the ethnic minorities.
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Originally posted by: CanOWorms
They're bringing in countries like Slovenia that have the same ideals as them. They're probably hoping to learn something from them.

4/5/2004:

More than 18,000 mostly Bosnians, Croats and Serbs were officially erased from state records after Slovenia declared its independence in 1991. The move effectively made them non-persons in the eyes of the government.

In a referendum Sunday, 95 percent of the voters denied restoring the rights to the ethnic minorities.
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Yeah those immoral Europeons at it again. Americans are superior in every regard, it isn't even funny anymore.

Zephyr
 
Originally posted by: Zephyr106
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
They're bringing in countries like Slovenia that have the same ideals as them. They're probably hoping to learn something from them.

4/5/2004:

More than 18,000 mostly Bosnians, Croats and Serbs were officially erased from state records after Slovenia declared its independence in 1991. The move effectively made them non-persons in the eyes of the government.

In a referendum Sunday, 95 percent of the voters denied restoring the rights to the ethnic minorities.
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Yeah those immoral Europeons at it again. Americans are superior in every regard, it isn't even funny anymore.

Zephyr
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I'm pretty sure they're superior in their widespread support for xenophobia/anti-foreign hate and government actions supporting such things.
 
Originally posted by: InfectedMushroom
Originally posted by: Passions
EU? What's that? Oh that's right, the US' lil biaaaaaaaatch to kick around. MUAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA!!!!!!!!!
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You're such a bright little one. Have you reached high school yet?
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Well, he's certainly enthusiastic.
 
Originally posted by: maddogchen
maybe the Euro will come tumbling down, so I can actually afford an European vacation
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None of the 10 new EU countries will be using the Euro.
 
This is truly a historic occasion, and I sincerely hope it works out, though I don't know if it will. One hand, the new members may invigorate the EU, with older members taking the best from the new members (2-3 of the 10 have low, flat taxes. A few more are working on this) leading to fast growth, both economically and socially, so that within 30-40 years, the entire continent would be a rich, developed, mature union. On the other, the vast differences between the countries may lead to strained relations, beaurocratic deadlock and perhaps even a breakdown of the Union. Most likely it will be a combination of both, though I hope much more of the former.


For those of you who turned this into a vacation, thread, I suggest you go visit the new members before they adopt the Euro (within 5 years perhaps). If you stay in Prague, you can save a ton of money, so you can spend more time there. Plus, Prague is close to both Germany and Vienna, so you can always hop on a bus and visit Berlin, Munic, Vienna, Strazboug etc for a day or two.

Just ask anyone who's been to Greece and they'll tell you how much nicer it was the drahma. 😉


Originally posted by: burnedout
Meanwhile, even though Turkey has held NATO membership for 52 years, the 'great' Jacques Chirac says that the Turks aren't fit for entry into the EU.
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Nato membership doesn't qualify one for the EU. The EU is a "union of values". Torture, a plethora of human rights abuses and a backwards society are not among them.

Whether Turkey can begin ascention will be decided in December, however it must work very hard for a very long time and completely transform itself if it wants to be a part of that club.



Anyway, cheers to our european friends :beer: Hopefully everything wil work out for them.
 
I'm thinking about buying a castle in Poland. It has one of the best organic markets in the world. The EU will probably ruin that.
 
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Nato membership doesn't qualify one for the EU. The EU is a "union of values". Torture, a plethora of human rights abuses and a backwards society are not among them.

Whether Turkey can begin ascention will be decided in December, however it must work very hard for a very long time and completely transform itself if it wants to be a part of that club.
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I tend to think that a country with 95% of its citizens voting against the belief that minorities are people is a backwards society with human rights issues.
 
Hopefully this will result in some price drops in Europe, and help with economic growth. People in the old EU are going to be fighting to get imported goods priced at the level they are in Poland.
 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Nato membership doesn't qualify one for the EU. The EU is a "union of values". Torture, a plethora of human rights abuses and a backwards society are not among them.

Whether Turkey can begin ascention will be decided in December, however it must work very hard for a very long time and completely transform itself if it wants to be a part of that club.
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I tend to think that a country with 95% of its citizens voting against the belief that minorities are people is a backwards society with human rights issues.
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why don't you look at Slovenia as a whole? What, it completely ruins your pathetic argument? I thought so.
 
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Nato membership doesn't qualify one for the EU. The EU is a "union of values". Torture, a plethora of human rights abuses and a backwards society are not among them.

Whether Turkey can begin ascention will be decided in December, however it must work very hard for a very long time and completely transform itself if it wants to be a part of that club.
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I tend to think that a country with 95% of its citizens voting against the belief that minorities are people is a backwards society with human rights issues.
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why don't you look at Slovenia as a whole? What, it completely ruins your pathetic argument? I thought so.
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I am. You're obviously only looking at a fraction, deciding to pretend something doesn't exist. I'm trying to acknowledge its presence.

95% voted against allowing minorities rights. They're not considered people. This is a serious issue. Maybe you'll call it a utopia, but I call that a backwards society with serious human rights issues.

BAM!!!! What, does this now ruin your pathetic argument? HAHAHAHA, damn, you got served, baby! I thought so, huuuuuh? I squished you like a purple elephant trying to breed with a green panda.
 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak
Nato membership doesn't qualify one for the EU. The EU is a "union of values". Torture, a plethora of human rights abuses and a backwards society are not among them.

Whether Turkey can begin ascention will be decided in December, however it must work very hard for a very long time and completely transform itself if it wants to be a part of that club.
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I tend to think that a country with 95% of its citizens voting against the belief that minorities are people is a backwards society with human rights issues.
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why don't you look at Slovenia as a whole? What, it completely ruins your pathetic argument? I thought so.
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I am. You're obviously only looking at a fraction, deciding to pretend something doesn't exist. I'm trying to acknowledge its presence.

95% voted against allowing minorities rights. They're not considered people. This is a serious issue. Maybe you'll call it a utopia, but I call that a backwards society with serious human rights issues.
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Similarly, I can pick out things and say the US is a backwards society with no respect for human rights, but I am not as stupid as you, so I won't do that.

BAM!!!! What, does this now ruin your pathetic argument? HAHAHAHA, damn, you got served, baby! I thought so, huuuuuh? I squished you like a purple elephant trying to breed with a green panda.
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