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xanis

xanis

Lifer
Sep 11, 2005
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Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Xanis

Where does it say the mom was just getting home from work? The OP also said that the mom got red in the face and said "oh...blah blah blah" indicating that mom either opened the package herself or at least knew about it. In the case of the latter, she's just as guilty and may as well have opened the package.
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but instead I saw the tenant just getting out of her car

while not stating she was getting home from work, regardless she was just getting back home to figure out the package. Where you attempted to troll though or just illiterate?

Queenrobot: if a package is delivered to your home (assuming there wasn't a name on it)...you don't owe anything to anyone...it's unsolicited. While unethical to keep, it's really not illegal.

It's pretty clear the daughter (however old she is) opened the package and perhaps thought it was a gift. The mom more or less was probably going to try to find out from relatives who may have sent it...or figure out if it did have a name.

I get a ton of stuff, I have opened items not realizing they were not for me. I usually know to go back to the box label once I see the contents are not something I was expecting and repack it as well as I can and call for a pickup.
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Numerous other people have made the same assumptions that I have, yet I'm the only troll and illiterate one? :confused:
 
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datwater

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Why didn't you call the police?

Because I had my package, though molested, in hand. I don't want to ruffle feathers. Read: I'm non-confrontational from OP.

Also: I stated that she was just getting out of her car, however she had foreknowledge of "a pc showing up." Whether she had been home before, or the daughter called her, I don't know.
 
alkemyst

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Xanis

Numerous other people have made the same assumptions that I have, yet I'm the only troll and illiterate one? :confused:
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Don't cry, emo kid, don't cry. They are wrong too...but I didn't see their replies.

To those talking police involvement...what would be the crime? SRSLY :confused:

There was no intent to fraud or steal and he recieved his item back...case closed.

The funny part of this is all the tools here that raped newegg on the EEEPC's originally and acted as if they were entitled to the extra laptops.

if this was posted that someone recieved an unlabelled package or even a package to an old tenant I am sure most would be on the side of 'open and keep it'.

 
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Cheesetogo

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Jan 26, 2005
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Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
let me get this straight you ordered a computer and had it delivered no signature required?
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Most websites don't really give you a choice in the matter, and half the time the delivery people don't get the signatures even if they are required.
 
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mattocs

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I don't think its a crime to open something that comes to your house. It shouldn't be.

If it comes to my home or PO box, I don't look at names. I open it. Not my problem to sort the mail or make correct shipping labels.
 
KLin

KLin

Lifer
Feb 29, 2000
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Originally posted by: mattocs
I don't think its a crime to open something that comes to your house. It shouldn't be.

If it comes to my home or PO box, I don't look at names. I open it. Not my problem to sort the mail or make correct shipping labels.
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So you wouldn't mind if your neighbor got a package meant for you containing $5000 cash and kept it since you don't think it's a crime to open someone else's mail?
 
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jjones

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Oct 9, 2001
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IMO, the mother is just as bad, or most likely worse than the daughter. From your description of events, the mother knew about the package before she even arrived home. So one of two things transpired. Either the daughter straightaway opened the package and then called the mother about it, or she called the mother before opening the package and the mother told her to go ahead and open it.

In either case the mother was aware of the circumstances and condoned it, hoping they just got a free computer at someone else's expense.

I recommend you take a shit on their doormat at the earliest opportunity.
 
JEDI

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: datwater
In June I bought a condominium in the same development I have been renting from. I moved from unit 4 to unit 15. A few months later someone moved in to unit 4.

This week I ordered an EEE pc 1000h from Mwave. It tracked as on truck for delivery yesterday. Usually the UPS truck is here between 4:30 and 5:00pm. I waited and waited until around 6pm. Finally I decided to check the tracking again, and it showed as delivered via "front door delivery" at 5:29pm.

I checked my paypal address - yep, it was right. I checked my e-bay address ... wait a minute, it still showed unit 4. Could the seller have shipped to my e-bay address instead of my paypal address?

I hoofed over to my old unit hoping to see the package on the doorstep there but instead I saw the tenant just getting out of her car. I said, "You live in unit 4 right?" She said, "Yeah." I said, "Well I moved from 4 to 15, and somoene accidentally shipped a package to my old address. Tracking shows me it was delivered today." She got a little red in the face and said, "Oh. My daughter won't be happy, she thought she had a new pc." She rushes in and I wait outside the door. A full 5 minutes later she shows back up, with the box ... opened. The inside box the EEE pc was in ... opened. She says, "Sorry about opening it. There was no name on it." Meanwhile I am looking right at my name on the address label.

But ... I'm a non-confrontational sort ... so I say thanks, and head back to my place. It was obvious to me that the whole thing had been taken out of the box but hastily stuffed back in when they realized I was there to claim it.

Twofold question to ATOT:

1) How would you handle it if a package arrived at your door addressed to a previous tenant?

2) How would you have handled the (lying) neighbor differently?


Cliffs:

* Ordered item
* Got shipped to neighbor by accident
* Neighbor opened package and played around with netbook
* Neighbor claims there was no name on the box when it is printed on the label in black and white
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to neighbor bitch:
WHAT THE FVCK do you mean you thought your daughter had a new computer? do you not see my name on the package you stupid moron? maybe your mom should have swallowed instead of having u. i could only imagine how your daughter will turn out.
 
JEDI

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
If UPS (etc.) delivers something to me and I'm not expecting it I always check to see that it's for me. If it's not I just give it back to the UPS guy. I'm not going to keep someone's package.
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this.

especially since i've heard cases of drugs being shipped to doorsteps, and cops arresting the person who signed for the package
 
alkemyst

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: JEDI

to neighbor bitch:
WHAT THE FVCK do you mean you thought your daughter had a new computer? do you not see my name on the package you stupid moron? maybe your mom should have swallowed instead of having u. i could only imagine how your daughter will turn out.
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psychotic like you? wow just wow...
 
alkemyst

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: mattocs
I don't think its a crime to open something that comes to your house. It shouldn't be.

If it comes to my home or PO box, I don't look at names. I open it. Not my problem to sort the mail or make correct shipping labels.
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So you wouldn't mind if your neighbor got a package meant for you containing $5000 cash and kept it since you don't think it's a crime to open someone else's mail?
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WTF does opening mail equal keeping misdelivered mail take place?

SRSLY though who sends fucking 5 grand in cash via mail...and those that do probably expect to lose some 'shipments'.

 
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Cristatus

Diamond Member
Oct 13, 2004
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That is exactly the kind of thing that I hate.

When I was living at university, I had previous tenants' posts show up and my door, and I was usually worried about what would happen to them, but my flat mates (who were local to the country [England]) actually either opened them and left them, or threw them away, or both. I would've found it highly annoying if I were to find out that my mail was opened, especially if the person knew that it wasn't addressed to them.

I, on the other hand, always try my best to either RTS, or ask the estate agent/owner/previous tenants about the previous tenants' whereabouts.

(C)
 
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Whisper

Diamond Member
Feb 25, 2000
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If I'm not expecting a shipment, and most of the time even when I am, I'll check the name on the box to be sure it's mine before signing for/opening it. I still get mail at this apartment that's addressed to the former tennant, and he/she moved out over three years ago. When that happens, I just drop it back in the outgoing mail slot with a note stating the person no longer lives here.

And if I came home to find a package waiting on my doorstep that wasn't mine? I'd either bring it over to the correct apartment myself, or would call the delivery company to let them know there was a mistake.
 
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