Ethically, what would you do in this situation?

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myusername

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Originally posted by: HotChic

Letting him off is different than letting him drive away. This is obviously a guy who knew he was driving drunk (hence his relief at not being pulled over by a different cop) and did it anyway. If he gets off scot free this time, you think he'll revise his ways?

There are two types of drunk drivers. Those who had more than they intended, and now that they are drunk, no longer have the common sense to get into a car - and those who regularly get and drive drunk, because - hey man, how else you going to get to the bars?

The former type - the "accidental drunk driver" can be reformed. Sometimes it takes a scare, or maybe just some age, but they can certainly learn and meet their limits, or recognize that they simply shouldn't go out if they are drinking.

The latter type, there's no point in giving a break - they simply need to be separated from their vehicle.

To clarify: My initial reaction is DWI the bastard, but having put myself in some stupid positions in the past (and not having done so any time recently), it is quite apparent to me that criminal charges are not necessary, and a little bit of recognizing one's own stupidity will suffice.
 

Thegonagle

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Get him the hell off the road. Give him a ride home. Give him a lecture. Give him and your sister (EDIT: or whatever relatives) a stern, scary lecture. In that order.
 

JulesMaximus

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Cops take care of their families. End of story.

Call a family member to pick him up and drive his car home.
 
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im not a cop, and i dont know any

i really think this is a perk of being in law enforcement.

call the family, get them to take him home, embarrass him, whatever. dont let him think he can get away with it, just make him very scared and feel very lucky :)

second time it happened, no help. i wouldnt consider this abuse of power unless it was habitual.
 

Sentinel

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Originally posted by: jumpr
Arrest him for DUI after field sobriety. You're putting your job on the line by letting him go home that night.

would be your best bet...
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Cops take care of their families. End of story.

Call a family member to pick him up and drive his car home.

I'm sorry, but parking ticket after parking ticket is one thing..


Drunk driving is not excusable. the absolute most family-oriented punishment would be to impound the car for 6months....
 

ktehmok

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Cops take care of their families. End of story.

Call a family member to pick him up and drive his car home.


Wrong, you're a cop at work. And you uphold the law first. When you go home, then you can take care of your family. If your wife/child/father/mother/etc.. commits a crime, they will answer to the law like anyone else. If you as a law enforcement officer try to cover that fact, then you are a criminal. You do not have special rights or are "above the law" for any reason.
 

ribbon13

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In the odd event that I was LE, I'd let him off with a stern warning, and give him a ride home or call a relative. I'd also put Ipecac in all his alcohol at home.

But how I'd answer homework, and what I'd do IRL are two different things. I like order, but have no respect for the law.
 

no0b

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Beat him Rodney King style

But in real life I would just call for backup, or wait for backup to arrive and let them deal with it.
 

AaronB

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A discussion on ethics would be lost on anyone that had to ask this question.

 

Yo Ma Ma

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I can see giving the bro-in-law a 'pass' if it was some kind of unique accident or something, but drinking & driving is a behavioral pattern, so you're not doing anyone a favor by letting them off "this one time." Chances are good they will hurt or kill someone in the future, if they keep driving drunk.
 

Orsorum

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Having been faced with a variant of this situation, I'd take them to the drunk tank and ticket them, then let my family know. No hesitation. Assuming I were a police officer my family would know who I was and they'd know the situation they were putting me in.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Originally posted by: AaronB
A discussion on ethics would be lost on anyone that had to ask this question.

It IS an ethical dilemma. While you might think it's dumb it still brings up the dilemma of Family v. Law...

His your BROTHER-IN-LAW...honestly, getting him out of a DUI has no beneficial effects whatsoever.

Given the nature of the violation, it appears that letting him off the hook will only lead to worse things than a suspended license.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Having been faced with a variant of this situation, I'd take them to the drunk tank and ticket them, then let my family know. No hesitation. Assuming I were a police officer my family would know who I was and they'd know the situation they were putting me in.


Aye...and there is no reason you should feel bad about it.


The ultimate display of affection is a strict adherance to your morals, standing your ground, in the worst of situations.
 

MartyMcFly3

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
Originally posted by: AaronB
A discussion on ethics would be lost on anyone that had to ask this question.

It IS an ethical dilemma. While you might think it's dumb it still brings up the dilemma of Family v. Law...

His your BROTHER-IN-LAW...honestly, getting him out of a DUI has no beneficial effects whatsoever.

Given the nature of the violation, it appears that letting him off the hook will only lead to worse things than a suspended license.

Right, he's your brother in law. meaning he's married to your sister. I'd like to be at that next family BBQ. It's not like getting him out of it is a free pass. You tell the entire family, they get him help, end of story.

The answer that most police officers/law enforcement professors have said are they either call a taxi to pick him up, or call a family member. Getting them off the road is the main priority. Like many have said that's a one-shot deal though. If the same family member fvcks up, no second chance.
 

EmperorIQ

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i didn't read the whole thread, has anyone suggested you stay with your brother in law, and call another deputy on duty to come and arrest him since you can't do it personally. If he is drunk enough he might not notice that you were there =)
 

MartyMcFly3

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Originally posted by: EmperorIQ
i didn't read the whole thread, has anyone suggested you stay with your brother in law, and call another deputy on duty to come and arrest him since you can't do it personally. If he is drunk enough he might not notice that you were there =)

Yes it has been brought up earlier in the thread. According to my professor this would be how you would handle a 2nd time occurance type of deal. After all, no one wants to arrest their own family.
 

AbAbber2k

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Test him and book his ass.
THEN, after he's spent the night in the drunk tank, take your nightstick up the back of his head.
 

AbAbber2k

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Arrest him. Even if he saved your life twice and gave you one of his kidneys.

Really, he might be pissed about you arresting him, but he's endangering the lives of other people and it's your job to stop it. No one is that important, not even family.