Ethical Question

[oldman420]

I have an ati 9800 pro that I flashed to an xt. am i a thief for doing so?
Or just clever.


Sorry for the spelling I forgot to double check it. "I really don't spell well"

 

[Gurck]

"illegal" And it's legal & ethical.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Let's eliminate "clever" as an option since you're not clever enough to spell "thief" or "illegal" correctly

 

[SWScorch]

it's the same hardware, why not?

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

thought this would be about boobies

 

[Cattlegod]

haha ileagle

 

[EyeMWing]

Technically the firmware is illegally distributed software.

 

[konakona]

what kind of distinction can you make between flashing to a higher grade model and overclocking? it is up to the manufacturers to include preventive measures if they find this significant to their revenue and whatnot. i mean would 'upgrading' regular pepsi to lemon twist by adding lemon juice in it be considered unethical?
as long as you dont request RMA due to failed flashing, i dont see any moral issues involed here.

 

[OMG1Penguin]

The 3rd (WAS at one point the 1st) highest score on 3dmark05 is on a x800 pro flashed to XT PE. Thats proof that flashing is teh winz.

 

[SickBeast]

OP, I thought you were talking about another kind of "flashing". I suppose I have some misconceptions about old men. :brokenheart:

 

[Yo Ma Ma]

I thought this would be about flash photography

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Technically the firmware is illegally distributed software.

I know nothing about the situation, but if what you say is true this would be the same as buying XP Home and then installing a pirated copy of XP Pro. Do you think that's ethical?

 

[imported_KirbsAw]

Originally posted by: VanillaH
what kind of distinction can you make between flashing to a higher grade model and overclocking? it is up to the manufacturers to include preventive measures if they find this significant to their revenue and whatnot. i mean would 'upgrading' regular pepsi to lemon twist by adding lemon juice in it be considered unethical?
as long as you dont request RMA due to failed flashing, i dont see any moral issues involed here.

good point

 

[ArmchairAthlete]

It amuses me that anybody would get worried about this...

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Technically the firmware is illegally distributed software.

I know nothing about the situation, but if what you say is true this would be the same as buying XP Home and then installing a pirated copy of XP Pro. Do you think that's ethical?

not quite the same thing. this is more like better tuning your engine that you bought and paid for. your example is more like buying a cheeseburger, asking for a cup for water, and then filling it with coke

 

[Klixxer]

Isn't the firmware openly and freely distributed by ATI themselves (as in firmware updates)?

 

[fawhfe]

Yeah, I'd say its ok. Once you've purchased your product, youcan do what you want with it. It's not like when you bought it, you signed something that says you will not screw around with it.

 

[z0mb13]

I thought u are talking bout flashing ur ding dong

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Technically the firmware is illegally distributed software.

I know nothing about the situation, but if what you say is true this would be the same as buying XP Home and then installing a pirated copy of XP Pro. Do you think that's ethical?

not quite the same thing. this is more like better tuning your engine that you bought and paid for. your example is more like buying a cheeseburger, asking for a cup for water, and then filling it with coke

Physical property is not the same as intellectual property. I'd hope I don't have to explain that.

Again, I'm assuming what EyeMWing said is true.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: z0mb13
I thought u are talking bout flashing ur ding dong

lol, me too

 

[oldman420]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh

Originally posted by: z0mb13
I thought u are talking bout flashing ur ding dong

lol, me too

just being clever.
Figured that would get some attention.

 

[imported_theEman]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
thought this would be about boobies

Same here...

 

[ActuaryTm]

Originally posted by: Cattlegod
haha ileagle

ileagle?

 

[Cobalt]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
thought this would be about boobies

LMAO same here.

 

[EyeMWing]

Originally posted by: Klixxer
Isn't the firmware openly and freely distributed by ATI themselves (as in firmware updates)?

If it is, and the EULA doesn't make note about installing it on cards other than the one it was intended for, then my point is moot. I've never paid attention to firmware updates because my stuff works OOTB