Ethical Question regarding a Job.

[mAdD INDIAN]

Since I'm still unlucky in my job hunt, I decided to go for a telemarketing job that I might be able to get..however its a full time job..not a contract. I won't be able to work from Sept-on wards due to school.

Now a friend of mine has that job, but he lied about not going to school...and plans on quiting come Sept.

Now if the lady asks me about my schooling and such, I'll probably have to say that I don't goto Unversity and fabricate a whole bunch of info and change my resume around as well. That's moral dilemna #1, since I feel bad about lying to get the job, and then quit in a few months.

Moral dilemna #2: I hate telemarketers with a passion, and I don't like it when they call me. So I'd feel bad to do the same thing to other people, I'd be a hypocrite. However, the pay is pretty good.

One hand..I'm probably goign to be lying to customers anyway...so whats wrong with lying to get the job? That's my reasoning anyway. But then, I'm doing something I'm against...which is telemarketing.

 

[slackerinabox]

Without reading your post I have to say that ethics have little to do with the job market.. Considering a company can drop you without even a days notice, why should you be ethical in return?

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Without reading your post I have to say that ethics have little to do with the job market.. Considering a company can drop you without even a days notice, why should you be ethical in return?

Good point.

 

[tweakmm]

Lying to a telemarketing company isn't really lying.

 

[Phuz]

Very few companies will hire someone knowing they already plan to quit.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: Phuz
Very few companies will hire someone knowing they already plan to quit.

Yeah but this is telemarketing, not some engineering job. They expect to hire people who are strapped for cash.

 

[slackerinabox]

Just remember not to dance during the interview..

 

[RossMAN]

Telemarketing companies aren't that ethical and screw us all the time.

Isn't it about time for some payback?

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Just remember not to dance during the interview..

LOL! I'll bhangra my way into the office! BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

RossMan: That's true. But on the other hand, you are going down to their level.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Without reading your post I have to say that ethics have little to do with the job market.. Considering a company can drop you without even a days notice, why should you be ethical in return?

W/O reading the entire original post (I'm guilty...) I agree.

When it comes to MONEY, UNEMPLOYMENT and NO FRICKIN' FOOD, there's no such thing as "ethics." You gotta eat right? Then you gotta say what you need to in order that you may eat.

Fudge some details or be homeless and starve. The choice is yours.

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Just remember not to dance during the interview..

LOL! I'll bhangra my way into the office! BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

RossMan: That's true. But on the other hand, you are going down to their level.

After working for a few telemarketing/consumer survey companies, I know how they operate.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Just remember not to dance during the interview..

LOL! I'll bhangra my way into the office! BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

RossMan: That's true. But on the other hand, you are going down to their level.

After working for a few telemarketing/consumer survey companies, I know how they operate.

So....are you saying he needs to like, BreakDance or something in the interview room? I don't understand this hip-kid MC Ghandi Punjabi stuff...it confuses me greatly.

 

[tm37]

I would not lie.

I have NEVER LIED to get a job and any job I need to lie to get I don't want.

I would be honest IF THEY ASK.

 

[slackerinabox]

OK, time for me to go Doctor Phil on you.. You're willing to call innocent people and shove phone spam down their throats.. You're willing to pester, bug, annoy, wake up, and freaking piss off countless people for a paycheck.... You're willing to defraud people by selling them services that they do not need or services that do not really deliver.. And your worried about ethics? Sheesh!

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Just remember not to dance during the interview..

LOL! I'll bhangra my way into the office! BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

RossMan: That's true. But on the other hand, you are going down to their level.

After working for a few telemarketing/consumer survey companies, I know how they operate.

So....are you saying he needs to like, BreakDance or something in the interview room? I don't understand this hip-kid MC Ghandi Punjabi stuff...it confuses me greatly.

I got your Ghandi Punjabi right here (grabs my crotch) unless you intended that post to MD.

 

[Phuz]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: Phuz
Very few companies will hire someone knowing they already plan to quit.

Yeah but this is telemarketing, not some engineering job. They expect to hire people who are strapped for cash.

Exactly. And their turn over rate is so high, they don't want you if you aren't going to stick around.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Just remember not to dance during the interview..

LOL! I'll bhangra my way into the office! BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

RossMan: That's true. But on the other hand, you are going down to their level.

After working for a few telemarketing/consumer survey companies, I know how they operate.

So....are you saying he needs to like, BreakDance or something in the interview room? I don't understand this hip-kid MC Ghandi Punjabi stuff...it confuses me greatly.

I got your Ghandi Punjabi right here (grabs my crotch) unless you intended that post to MD.

You do that so well...breakdancing it is, then!

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Just remember not to dance during the interview..

LOL! I'll bhangra my way into the office! BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

RossMan: That's true. But on the other hand, you are going down to their level.

After working for a few telemarketing/consumer survey companies, I know how they operate.

So....are you saying he needs to like, BreakDance or something in the interview room? I don't understand this hip-kid MC Ghandi Punjabi stuff...it confuses me greatly.

I got your Ghandi Punjabi right here (grabs my crotch) unless you intended that post to MD.

You do that so well...breakdancing it is, then!

Come over here so I can bitch slap you.

Damn wife wants me to come to bed, you were saved by an Aussie.

Night ATOT.

 

[kevinthenerd]

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Telemarketing companies aren't that ethical and screw us all the time.

Isn't it about time for some payback?

With that attitude, would it be ok to pirate Microsoft's stuff? (Microsoft did, after all, steal what they have, right?) Would it be ok to steal from Wal-Mart? (They can, after all, make up for it in profits, right?)

Absolutely not.

Quit telling yourself bullsh!t reasoning, and be a good person. The world needs more good people. If this world wasn't full of people who are so easily corrupted over time, things like Enron would never happen.

(BTW, the first program to be stolen in quantity was probably Bill Gates' Altair Basic. Some guys copied the paper strip with a photocopier.)


Don't get me wrong... I'm a member of the Green Party, and I hate how big corporations have taken over America. They control the media, and they control the masses. They fund elections, and they receive favors in exchange. No matter how bad they are, however, you have to resist non-violently.

If you believe in the Ten Commandments, let me remind you...

Thou shall not bear false witness aganist they neighbor. (Thou shall not lie.)
Thou shall not steal.

 

[ThaGrandCow]

I say when you quit don't tell them it's for ongoing school. Tell them you're not happy and you decided to start taking classes and attempt your degree.

 

[pinoy]

Why sink to their level if its not your style. you will always feel tired and irritated if you don't like what you're doing at work. Don't you have any other options? But of course, its a different story if you're in dire need (of money for food, bills, etc.)

Its really up to you! So, goodluck!

 

[MichaelD]

You-->need money.

Job = Money.

You --> need teh money.

You --? What to say to get teh money?

You = say whateverthehellyouneedto in order to get teh money.

Good Luck to you.

 

[Banana]

Turnover is supposed to be high for telemarketers, so I doubt they'll care when you leave, unless you were really good at selling stuff over the phone, in which case you've become one of THEM :|

Isn't there any other job you can get? I did telemarketing for a few weeks many years ago--it was one of the most horrible experience in my life. I'd rather have done some menial labor--better for the mind and body!

 

[slackerinabox]

Originally posted by: kevinthenerd

Originally posted by: RossMAN
Telemarketing companies aren't that ethical and screw us all the time.

Isn't it about time for some payback?

With that attitude, would it be ok to pirate Microsoft's stuff? (Microsoft did, after all, steal what they have, right?) Would it be ok to steal from Wal-Mart? (They can, after all, make up for it in profits, right?)

Absolutely not.

Quit telling yourself bullsh!t reasoning, and be a good person. The world needs more good people. If this world wasn't full of people who are so easily corrupted over time, things like Enron would never happen.

(BTW, the first program to be stolen in quantity was probably Bill Gates' Altair Basic. Some guys copied the paper strip with a photocopier.)


Don't get me wrong... I'm a member of the Green Party, and I hate how big corporations have taken over America. They control the media, and they control the masses. They fund elections, and they receive favors in exchange. No matter how bad they are, however, you have to resist non-violently.

If you believe in the Ten Commandments, let me remind you...

Thou shall not bear false witness aganist they neighbor. (Thou shall not lie.)
Thou shall not steal.

After reading your thought provoking and stimulating post, well, it's made me reflect on a few things.. I mean this from the bottom of my heart.. I really do.. You are such a pussy!

 

[AnyMal]

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN

Originally posted by: freedomsbeat212
Just remember not to dance during the interview..

LOL! I'll bhangra my way into the office! BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

RossMan: That's true. But on the other hand, you are going down to their level.

After working for a few telemarketing/consumer survey companies, I know how they operate.

So....are you saying he needs to like, BreakDance or something in the interview room? I don't understand this hip-kid MC Ghandi Punjabi stuff...it confuses me greatly.

I got your Ghandi Punjabi right here (grabs my crotch) unless you intended that post to MD.

You do that so well...breakdancing it is, then!

Come over here so I can bitch slap you.

Damn wife wants me to come to bed, you were saved by an Aussie.

Night ATOT.

pu$$y whipped!!!!! lol!!!!!