Ethical dilemma

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Muadib

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This thread is almost as bad as the talk I had with my nephew the other day. We were walking to the store, when suddenly he ran in front of me. I didn't think anything of it, but after going another block or so, I notice he was yelling, so I told him to stop, and let me catch up.

He then said that he didn't want me to catch up. I was a bit puzzled, so I asked, why not? He said, If a bird poops on you, I don't want it to get on me, and I really don't want to smell it.

I almost fell out the ground from laughing so hard, because I knew what he meant. Last summer when we were at an amusement park, a bird took a dump on me. I didn't even notice, and neither did anyone else we were with, but he kept saying he smelled something. Another 30 minutes went by before I noticed I had something on my sleeve. When I told the crowd we were with, we all got a good laugh, but I guess it stuck with him.

He learned a lesson on our walk, but he's only 8. Do I have to spell it out for you too?
 
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Legally, you have no obligation to refund the money, seeing as it has already been sold and when you handed it over, it was as you claimed.
Financially, you should have some obligation, as you did recommend the packing method, and you should atleast help recouperate the costs
Ethically, you have a lot of obligation, seeing as you did recommend the packing method and it's because of that it broke
Reputation wise, You have full obligation to refund the money unless you want to be treated like a dude from Hong Kong that sells bricks in laptop boxes on Ebay
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Tweak155
I've transported at LEAST 4 LCD tv's this way (didn't even pay attention to face up or face down) (and at least 3 of those back again) and none had problems. People try to scare you, its how they make things seem valuable or worth putting extra money into.

Screen sizes:

2 x 47"
1 x 52"
1 x 55"

All fine. The 52" was a 45 minute trip too and 70mph on the freeway.

Foolishness. It's not going to break every time, but it's more likely to break. Do you think they build special racks to put on the back of glass trucks to convince people their glass is valuable?

http://www.nashvilleglass.net/...ille-service-truck.jpg
 

ManyBeers

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Originally posted by: thirtythree
1. Bob buys an LCD television from me through craigslist. I help pack the television up and put it in the back of his truck. Bob tells me that he has cords to secure it, but I suggest that we just put it on its back. It later occurrs to me that it's probably meant to stand upright.
2. The screen cracks while Bob is driving it home.
3. Do I give Bob a full or partial refund, or no refund at all?


(P.S. I don't know that the LCD actually broke, just hypothesizing. Bob is probably unpacking it about now and is about to call me in anger demanding all his money back.)


On the one hand, Bob should have taken responsibility for the LCD after buying it. On the other hand, it was my suggestion that we just put it on its back. Either way, someone is out hundreds of dollars.

You don't owe Bob anything. Once he confirmed the tv worked and you packed it for him it is his responsibility to transport it safely. He should have disregarded your suggestion if it was wrong. Wasn't the box marked to show which side is up? They usually are.

And how do you know the screen cracked on the drive to Bob's house.
 

nageov3t

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laying an LCD flat doesn't mean that it's going to crack... I've transported several that way without incident (well, the same one but multiple times).

if he's a reckless driver and makes it crack by running over speed bumps, not avoiding potholes, etc... his fault imo
 

rudeguy

Lifer
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Originally posted by: loki8481
laying an LCD flat doesn't mean that it's going to crack... I've transported several that way without incident (well, the same one but multiple times).

if he's a reckless driver and makes it crack by running over speed bumps, not avoiding potholes, etc... his fault imo

If its laying on its back, then yes it could crack.
 

DayLaPaul

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As long as he's not mashing out while getting head on the freeway, I don't see how he can break the screen just because it's laid on its back.
 

rudeguy

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Originally posted by: DayLaPaul
As long as he's not mashing out while getting head on the freeway, I don't see how he can break the screen just because it's laid on its back.

the screen is where all the weight is. One little bump COULD spell disaster. More than likely everything is fine.

I remember when plasmas first came out. They used to have a little thing on the box that let you know if it was tipped over too far.