Ethereum GPU mining?

[Shmee]

I started mining Decred on my 1070 a bit. I hope the driver fix for the windows ethereum mining is out soon.

 

[Madpacket]

I started mining Decred on my 1070 a bit. I hope the driver fix for the windows ethereum mining is out soon.

Nice. I hope they fix the DPC latency first

 

[IEC]

I just bought a RX 470 primarily for gaming but figured I'd try some mining while I'm at it since I leave my computer on 24/7 for my home security cameras.

How much stress does mining put on the card (and overall system)? I've read that mining ruined XFX's lifetime warranty on their cards so I'm curious now.

That may be true of older cards and cards run at the extremes of temperature and clockspeeds, but the RX 480 should be pretty durable at the undervolted, underclocked speeds most of us are running at.

I run most of my cards at <900mV at a 1040-1080 core speed and 2100-2200 memory speed. The cards themselves don't break 68C since I have the fans run between 2000-2400 RPMs.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Windows 10.

All my miners (9) use Windows 10. I haven't had any issues with 390's or 290's. Something weird with the 480's when running multiple cards.

Hmm, how is Linux support for the 480 right now? Have you considered booting that up to see if you get the same multiGPU throttling problems under teh Lun1x as you do Win10?

 

[Madpacket]

I started mining Decred on my 1070 a bit. I hope the driver fix for the windows ethereum mining is out soon.

Look like someone has the 1070 mining 32-34Mh on Windows 10 now with the latest Microsoft Geforce drivers. This is a good sign...

 

[Madpacket]

Hmm, how is Linux support for the 480 right now? Have you considered booting that up to see if you get the same multiGPU throttling problems under teh Lun1x as you do Win10?

I managed to finally snag the unicorn (XFX "4GB" 480 reference) which will be arriving by Friday. Had two in my cart but on checkout one was removed. Happy I even got one as these are cheaper than 470's in Canada. Crazy. I think people finally setup bots to buy these from NewEgg, I haven't gone this route yet.

Anyway with this card I'll be testing Linux out for sure. Silly to start with a 6x rig as the downtime would cost me to much. Once I have things working with a single card I'll transition to the H97 Anniversary rig. I managed to stabilize the 6x rig to 150Mh and the 5x rig to 125 so it's not a huge loss of hashes but still annoying.

If everything goes well this week I'll have 24 480's mining away.

I've sold off 5 390's and my only 290 but still have 10 390's left plus two Fury X's. These are still quite profitable (since they ROI'd) but my hydro is tapped so I'm going to either unload most of them now (getting decent money for them so far) or try to work out a mining contract with F&F for 3 - 4 months. It's a tough sell in this heat though.

Would be optimal to have them all running on Linux before farming out though, Windows 10 is super easy to setup but can be a pain to manage with multiple rigs.

Fun times!

I know we're not keeping score or competing here but if I temporarily hit 1GH during this transition I'll have to post a screenshot for some bragging ;D but I bet some of you guys have already hit these speeds.

 

[dark zero]

Wondering if this is good for AMD or bad for them... I mean.... if nVIDIA cards are starting to mine better than AMD ones, miners will shift to nVIDIA, lowering the sells of AMD, but on the other side, giving them finally a breath, while the greens will constantly suffer of low stock despite the restrictions.

Also.. how if the 1060 in mining? and how well will the RX 460 do in mining?

 

[Yakk]

Wondering if this is good for AMD or bad for them... I mean.... if nVIDIA cards are starting to mine better than AMD ones, miners will shift to nVIDIA, lowering the sells of AMD, but on the other side, giving them finally a breath, while the greens will constantly suffer of low stock despite the restrictions.

Also.. how if the 1060 in mining? and how well will the RX 460 do in mining?

A sale is a sale for nvidia or AMD. However I'm curious to see how nvidia hardware can hold up, AMD has over engineered their cards on purpose, nvidia has not.

 

[IntelUser2000]

and how well will the RX 460 do in mining?

Since its also Polaris, we can normalize it to clock speeds and shaders.

RX 480: 24.7MH/s with 2304SPs and 256-bit 8GHz memory, entirely bound by memory speed. With 8GHz memory, you'd need 970-1000MHz to make it balanced, meaning not being bound by either.

RX 460: 896SPs with 128-bit 7GHz memory. Memory = 7GHz @ half the bandwidth per Hz, 44% of RX 480 at stock
SPs = 896SPs @ 1.2GHz are 47.5% of RX 480 running at 980MHz

That means you can take the lower bound, which is 44%, and you'll end up at 0.44 x 24.7 = 10.9MH/s.

It's not worth it as a mining only card. You'll just have higher overhead on other parts of the system both in costs and power use. It'll be only ok if its your gaming card and you mind when not gaming.

 

[IntelUser2000]

I managed to finally snag the unicorn (XFX "4GB" 480 reference) which will be arriving by Friday. Had two in my cart but on checkout one was removed. Happy I even got one as these are cheaper than 470's in Canada. Crazy. I think people finally setup bots to buy these from NewEgg, I haven't gone this route yet.

Finally managed to snatch 2 Sapphire RX 480 8GB reference models. More expensive than I'd like, but as you say, the 4GB model is a unicorn. I noticed that the 4GB models do come though, but very rarely nowadays. I wonder if they'll ever switch the reference 4GB models to a real 4GB one? Perhaps the Hynix memory used on the AIB ones?

Using on the system in my sig. Only running one now because I sold the other one and only have this one as desktop. Corsair CX430 has 1 6 pin power connector. Ordered molex to 6 pin so I can connect the second RX 480. The Sandy Bridge 2600K system is far better than the Pentium G3220 + H81 Pro BTC + 160GB 7200RPM drive system I had. It boots up at 2x the speed, and unlike the Pentium G3220, I don't have to look at task manager to see which process to kill so the CPU stays as close to 0% as possible. With the 2600K, 15 seconds after booting it up the CPU is at 0%. The stabilization time is 1/4th of the Pentium one.

Using Wattman, both temp presets at 72C, memory at 2250MHz, and Power limit at -19. The card is pretty quiet at that setting. I do wish a better cooler so I could lower it to 60C without making it louder. With a Single RX 480 the system uses 185W at wall, meaning the card is using 130W maximum, maybe 120W, considering GPU-Z shows 85W. 27.5MH/s Ethereum.

Does anyone know how to get over the limits of Wattman's 2250MHz memory? It's really stupid. I want to see how far I can make it go. Heck I bought heatsinks for the memory. I'd love to push it to 2400MHz and get 29.5MH/s.

Also, it uses 200W when voltage is manually set 50mV lower for all states and max clock at 1100MHz, but putting Power Limit simply to -19 gets it to 185W. Lowering it to -100mV doesn't make a difference.

 

[Shmee]

Look like someone has the 1070 mining 32-34Mh on Windows 10 now with the latest Microsoft Geforce drivers. This is a good sign...

Cool, where do I download it?

 

[IEC]

Unsure if anyone has noticed the same trends as me or not, but here's what I've observed:

All of my Sapphire cards (4GB and 8GB) can hit 2200MHz on the RAM and still be undervolted, and are rock-solid stable.

On the other end of the spectrum, I've had 1 defective Powercolor card (of 4) and the other 3 can't seem to hit 2200MHz on the RAM at the same voltages as the Sapphire cards. I've had stability issues on the Powercolor crate, which were only resolved by backing off on clocks.

 

[Madpacket]

Cool, where do I download it?

Read near the bottom.

New as of today...

https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/2227/cuda-miner/p65

Please let us know if it works for you. I wouldn't mind an 6 card array of 34Gh 1060's as a final rig.

 

[Madpacket]

Unsure if anyone has noticed the same trends as me or not, but here's what I've observed:

All of my Sapphire cards (4GB and 8GB) can hit 2200MHz on the RAM and still be undervolted, and are rock-solid stable.

On the other end of the spectrum, I've had 1 defective Powercolor card (of 4) and the other 3 can't seem to hit 2200MHz on the RAM at the same voltages as the Sapphire cards. I've had stability issues on the Powercolor crate, which were only resolved by backing off on clocks.

I have Gigabyte, MSI, PowerColor, Sapphire and those expensive XFX with backplates. It's really hit and miss with them. I haven't had any straight up duds (a friend got one in a recent order). Most of my cards are in the 70 - 80% ASIC rating. I do have one card that's over 90% but forget the brand at the moment.

I really think these cards were all built at Sapphire and then redistributed to the other brands to add their own colours and stickers. Just luck of the draw really. The better cards will mine roughly 27Mh at just under 70W, where the worse cards shoot up to 78-79W.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Look like someone has the 1070 mining 32-34Mh on Windows 10 now with the latest Microsoft Geforce drivers. This is a good sign...

This is exactly like the time when Core 2 was released for the CPU and then Intel started gradually beating AMD in every metric. Real world, synthetics, power consumption, price/perf, at equal process generation.

It's just Nvidia doing that to AMD on GPU side. It's a matter of record difficulty in semi industry in getting latest designs to work combined with diminishing R&D and manpower capital on AMD.

 

[dark zero]

This is exactly like the time when Core 2 was released for the CPU and then Intel started gradually beating AMD in every metric. Real world, synthetics, power consumption, price/perf, at equal process generation.

It's just Nvidia doing that to AMD on GPU side. It's a matter of record difficulty in semi industry in getting latest designs to work combined with diminishing R&D and manpower capital on AMD.

Agreed... however it would have an interesting variant. Their ARM project seems to be totally doomed if Nintendo NX fails (and considering how Nintendo is doing, I fear that might happen), maybe it's the moment to Intel and nVIDIA to finally do a merge and then an alliance with Microsoft?
That would benefit miners even more. It would be perfect to see an Intel CPU, nVIDIA GPU and MS OS perfect to cryptomining. It would be undefeatable.

 

[Erenhardt]

Playing CS:GO while mining at the same time gives you 20HMs and 90 FPS on the rx480. And my weekend is gone

Oh, and I don't like the new forum, where to complain?

 

[Shmee]

1070 mining in win 10 seems to be working now! With 369.09 and genoil 1.1.6 I am getting up to 41MH/s. Weird thing is, it keeps alternating in the CMD window between 20 MH/s and 41 MH/s. Is this normal?

 

[Madpacket]

1070 mining in win 10 seems to be working now! With 369.09 and genoil 1.1.6 I am getting up to 41MH/s. Weird thing is, it keeps alternating in the CMD window between 20 MH/s and 41 MH/s. Is this normal?

What 1070 model do you have? I'm not sure about the alternating issue. What does your mining pool actually say your speed is at?

 

[Madpacket]

This is exactly like the time when Core 2 was released for the CPU and then Intel started gradually beating AMD in every metric. Real world, synthetics, power consumption, price/perf, at equal process generation.

It's just Nvidia doing that to AMD on GPU side. It's a matter of record difficulty in semi industry in getting latest designs to work combined with diminishing R&D and manpower capital on AMD.

I guess there's some similarities. However a few major differ differences still exist. No Intel to rig compilers in their favour (this is where AMD has the upper hand, DX12 / Vulcan) and hardware async. Until Nvidia has a proper implementation there's no getting around the performance differences regardless of their R&D budget. This also happens to close the performance per watt metric.

Anyways happy if we can 1070's mining at least at 33Mh. This is a solid 5Mh higher than a 480. Pretty substantial if you add 6 cards to a milk crate miner.

 

[yugo23]

The better cards will mine roughly 27Mh at just under 70W, where the worse cards shoot up to 78-79W.

I thought 480 cards consume around 130-140 W. Which settings do you use?

 

[codyray10]

I thought 480 cards consume around 130-140 W. Which settings do you use?

I think you're talking about running the card at stock settings/volts. I cant speak to Madpackets exact settings, but something like 950-985mv on the core and ~975mv on the memory will get you some decent power savings.

 

[Yakk]

Anyways happy if we can 1070's mining at least at 33Mh. This is a solid 5Mh higher than a 480. Pretty substantial if you add 6 cards to a milk crate miner.

Yup, if this is working out I might be getting a half dozen card test setup going. Still worried about the 1060/1070 weak power delivery circuitry for sustained use though.

 

[n0x1ous]

1070 mining in win 10 seems to be working now! With 369.09 and genoil 1.1.6 I am getting up to 41MH/s. Weird thing is, it keeps alternating in the CMD window between 20 MH/s and 41 MH/s. Is this normal?

Is it pascal only or kepler and maxwell work too?

 

[RussianSensation]

1070 mining in win 10 seems to be working now! With 369.09 and genoil 1.1.6 I am getting up to 41MH/s. Weird thing is, it keeps alternating in the CMD window between 20 MH/s and 41 MH/s. Is this normal?

Thanks for giving us an update! Seems 99.9% of 1070 owners on this forum are asleep at the wheel. Good thing we have you

Did you set the power tune to the max in MSI AB/EVGA Precision?

I found this:

[NV cards] Needs to be set in P0 (compute) state; ethminer doesn't kick it into this mode, your card will stay in P2 unless you force it with nvidia-smi, which is in C:\Program Files\Nvidia Corporation\NVSMI.

Run this in cmd in admin mode:
nvidia-smi -q -d SUPPORTED_CLOCKS | more
(that's a pipe before more)

Step 1: Stop all running miners on the system.
Step 2: Set the clocks with the nvidia-smi -ac ####,#### command as before
Step 3: Check that the clocks are set by running nvidia-smi -q -d SUPPORTED_CLOCKS |more and seeing if the mem and first graphics values have changed to reflect your numbers
Step 4: Run the miner, check hashrate against previous.

https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/5553/gtx-980-getting-19-mh-s-is-this-good-was-hoping-20

I don't have an NV card right now but just looking for some suggestions online.

If more people confirm 1070 hashing 32-33MH under W7/8/10, I am finally going to replace my Hawaii cards with Pascal 1070 SLI