Estimated cost of shutdown: 24 billion dollars

Discussion in 'Politics and News' started by OneOfTheseDays, Oct 16, 2013.

  1. sportage

    sportage Diamond Member

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    Well this should expose their truth with the party.
    They use big government and spending as the talking points,
    but in reality they care not about spending nor do that hate big government.
    The big government they gladly take full part in.
    Not heart felt with them, it just sells news papers.
     
  2. rudder

    rudder Lifer

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    I am aware how these furloughs work. Within days of the shutdown congress pledged to give fed workers backpay. The same thing happened with every other shutdown. If Obama can change the ACA with a stroke of the pen, there was really nothing stopping him from letting more employees back to work. A statement in frustration because the whole thing is ridiculous.... and we will go through the same about 12 weeks from now. Seems neither party can figure out a solution.
     
  3. LTC8K6

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    Well, at least the debt ceiling fights won't be a problem any more...

    Apparently it will now be raised by default, and Congress must vote to stop the raise, which won't happen...
     
  4. FelixDeCat

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    Worst president, ever.
     
  5. WhipperSnapper

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    If the Republicans have a problem with the $17 trillion dollars...

    ...then why won't they propose solutions to Global Labor Arbitrage which is the primary source of the problem? Why won' they come out and oppose foreign outsourcing which decreases income tax revenues and increases the need for social welfare programs? Why won't they oppose work visas like the H-1B, L-1, TN, and J-1?

    ...why do they support lower taxes for the rich?

    ...why do they oppose socialized medicine which has been proven to save money and be much more cost efficient? (Think 12% of GDP and 100% coverage versus our current 17.6% of GDP?)

    You're fooling yourself if you think that only the Democrats are to blame for our national debt.
     
  6. WhipperSnapper

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    "Tea Party Throws $24 Billion Overboard"
     
  7. Jaskalas

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    This war hasn't even begun. Our divisions will cost far more than $24 billion when the dust settles. What cannot be won at the Federal level will be done through States.
     
  8. WelshBloke

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  9. Genx87

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    Oh you think this exposes that truth? Not the near doubling the size of the federal govt under Bush?
     
  10. Jaskalas

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    Don't think the British were counting the price of the lost tea in Boston after the Revolutionary War. They had much greater concerns when the dust settled.
     
  11. nehalem256

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    So Dick Cheney is now considered to give good advice by the left?

    As well as a collapsing economy due to the Dotcom Crash and housing prices already at record levels...
     
  12. nehalem256

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    If liberals truly care about poor people why don't they?
     
  13. Tom

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    Many furloughed workers were working without pay.

    And the one's who were sent home, were sent home. Many of them probably would have worked, but management had to decide how to deal with whatever funding they had.

    Its ridiculous to have an attitude that the workers did something wrong here.

    And your just wrong if you think there's a net savings. The $24 billion lost is probably low.
     
  14. WhipperSnapper

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    ...because they're not much better than the GOP, but at least they tend to support socialized medicine and oppose Big Government in the Bedroom.
     
  15. piasabird

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    We still don't have a budget! It will happen again and again.

    Plenty of money to give arms to terrorist groups.

    The real problem is some of the people in the government should be layed off. That is how a real company would handle it if they were spending too much money. Just downsize the government. We are spending about 20% too much and we keep increasing the overspending.
     
    #40 piasabird, Oct 17, 2013
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