ESPN: 25 worst draft picks

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Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1
where is tim couch?
Tim Couch isn't nearly bad enough to be on this list. Although his rating suffers at a career 75.1 at the moment, he's better than that. It's unfortunate that he did not have the coaching and time to develop as an NFL QB early in his career, and now's he on the outside looking in.
 

NeoV

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This list is garbage, ESPN should be ashamed...

let me explain..

First round picks in baseball are no sure thing at all to make the major leagues, even guys that are picked in the top 10. Not a single one of them should be on this list, period. Brien Taylor only got all the pub because it was the Yankees - if he was the first pick of the draft and it was the Pirates, none of you would know who he is....heck, the year the A's drafted Van Poppell they drafted 3 other pitchers, all in the first round as well...they were called the "four aces"....and were a collection of busts....I could go on and on with failed baseball first round picks.

Guys who need to be on this list: Mike Junkin - Browns

Heath Shuler, Akili Smith, and Ryan Leaf are great examples - Leaf should be #1 on this list though.

NBA - so many...lets start with the 02 draft - Jay Williams, Bulls...Nik Tskitishvili, #5, to Denver...01 Draft - Brown, Chandler 1 and 2...Eddie Griffin, #7 - he HAS to be on this list, considering who the Rockets gave up to get him..DeSagania Diop, #8, to Cleveland...they like him so much they are bringing in the bionicman, Scott Williams..2000 Draft - Marcus Fizer, #4, Bulls..DeMarr Johnson, #6, ATL, 99 draft...Trajan Langdon, Cleveland, #11...1998 - first overall pick - M.Olowakandi, Clippers..Dirk went #9 that year, Paul Pierce #10...nice job Clips......97 draft - 4. Antonio Daniels, Bowling Green Vancouver,5. Tony Battie, Texas Tech Denver
6. Ron Mercer, Kentucky Boston (from Dallas)7. Tim Thomas, Villanova New Jersey (traded to Philadelphia)8. Adonal Foyle, Colgate Golden State - T-Mac was #9 that year!..

Too soon on some of those guys, but when you pick a guy top 5 in the NBA draft, he should be a player!

Larry Johnson of the Chiefs isn't playing because Priest Holmes is in front of him - not his fault, and the team was concerned about Holmes' hip...

Have to have Cade McNown on this list - much worse pick than Jim Druckemiller was
 

ZowieHowie

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I was suprised not seeing a few excellent <gag> picks by my Miami Dolphins in 2 consecutive years.....

1988 Eric Kumerow DE Ohio State
1989 Sammie Smith RB Florida State

Kumerow was horrible, and Sammie Smith was actually picked higher than Emmitt Smith. Sammie Smith was notorious for fumbling on the goalline. I think in 1989, Smith fumbled 9 times at the goalline!
 

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11. Steve Emtman
Emtman was the best defensive lineman in college football in 1991, and the junior skipped his last year at Washington to go pro. The Colts selected him as the No. 1 pick overall. He played nine games his rookie season, injured one knee, then the other, had a slew of operations, and played only 10 games over the next six years before retiring with eight career sacks.


While Bosworth and Mandarich were all hype, Emtman was the real deal. It's unfortunate he couldn't stay healthy, and that he never was able to showcase his talents in the NFL, but there is no way he is the 11th worst draft pick of all time.
 

TheAudit

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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
True but I'd rather have a guy who has a chance to break away for 10+ rather than a lumbering guy who runs into the back of his linemen and goes for 1 yard.

Run, mofo, run. Dayne is always trying to finesse his way around and invariably gets tackled after picking up only one yard. And then he?ll complain about his role.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: Kilrsat
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Originally posted by: stuman19
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
Lawrence Phillips and Ron Dayne also come to mind for me.

Oh and that guy the Celtics thought was the second coming of Bird. Michael Smith was it?

Edit: I almost forgot Stinka Dare of the Nets

Ron Dayne? Give him time.......I'm from Wisconsin as you can tell ;)

He was great in Wisconsin. I used to love watching him run over people but he's been a pro for how long? At least we have Tiki.
For his career, Tiki fumbles once every 33 touches.
For his career, Dayne fumbles once every 139 touches.

30 touches is about what you'd expect for a starting running back per game, so basically count on Tiki to let it hit the ground in every game he plays. That's painful.

He's worked on it all offseason and has yet to fumble this year. He has 50 rushes for 273 yards and 2 rushing TD's.
 

RedRooster

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I remember pulling a Brien Taylor rookie card from a pack of cards once(I forget the brand, it focused on college players though), it was autographed as 1/999 or something. I was hoping and praying he'd pan out, and be a great player. Then I heard about that fight and they said he'd be out one year or so. Guess they were wrong, and I have a piece of worthless cardboard still in a plexi card holder like a sucker. :D
 

Doggiedog

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What about that Eagles linebacker from a while back from BC who was supposedly a freak. He set all these records in the combine and moved up big in the draft but never panned out.
 

slpaulson

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Originally posted by: bradolson
I remember Tony Mandarich in 1989. We could have gotten Barry Sanders - imagine Favre and Sanders on the same team throughout the 90's...

Don't remind me of what could have been :).
 

Kelemvor

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6. Tony Mandarich
The Packers, with the 2nd pick overall in the 1989 draft, passed up Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas, and Deion Sanders, who went 3, 4, and 5, for Mandarich. He held out, and got a four-year, $4.4 million deal, a huge sum for a lineman. SI called him "the best offensive line prospect ever," but later called him "The Incredible Bust." Mandarich played seven mediocre years in the NFL.

Oh the Horror. Still hard to admit to that one...
 

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
I started looking for Heath Shuler as soon as I saw the list... Boy, did he suck.

Being a VOL fan I should defend him. He got hurt hs first season and never really recovered. It was some type of foot injury. I have heard he is a successful real estate guy now. He owns Heath Shuler Real Estate

At least Peyton wasn't a flop.
 

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I agree that Eddie Griffith should be on the list. The Rockets gave up Richard Jefferson for him! :shocked:

Charles Rogers is quickly approaching bust status after being knocked out for the season for the second straight year. Some older Busts:

Yvies Racine, a defenseman the Red Wings took one pick before Joe Sakic high in the first round.

Terry Fair, not so much for his injury riddled mediocre career, but for the fact that he was picked one spot ahead of Randy Moss.

On top of that, I don't know how people can forget one of the biggest busts of all time. Andre Ware. :shocker;
 

geecee

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Wait. Kenny "Sky" Walker isn't on this list? Then again, he did win the slam dunk contest one year. And he had that cool high top fade. Knicks haven't had many good drafts since getting Ewing.

EDIT: Ron Dayne's nickname went from "Great" Dane to Ron "Done". :p It looked like he might have had a chance to shed the "bust" label this year, but after the last couple of weeks, probably not.
 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
6. Tony Mandarich
The Packers, with the 2nd pick overall in the 1989 draft, passed up Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas, and Deion Sanders, who went 3, 4, and 5, for Mandarich. He held out, and got a four-year, $4.4 million deal, a huge sum for a lineman. SI called him "the best offensive line prospect ever," but later called him "The Incredible Bust." Mandarich played seven mediocre years in the NFL.

Oh the Horror. Still hard to admit to that one...


I sat next to Tony Mandarich in business class on a flight to Toronto last winter. He's a very friendly guy.

 

SUOrangeman

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As has been mentioned, injuries should be a reason that a draftee turns into a bust. I'd rather see a list of folks who were available to play, but still never rose to the hype.

-SUO
 

Ranger X

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Originally posted by: venk
I agree that Eddie Griffith should be on the list. The Rockets gave up Richard Jefferson for him! :shocked:

Charles Rogers is quickly approaching bust status after being knocked out for the season for the second straight year. Some older Busts:

Yvies Racine, a defenseman the Red Wings took one pick before Joe Sakic high in the first round.

Terry Fair, not so much for his injury riddled mediocre career, but for the fact that he was picked one spot ahead of Randy Moss.

On top of that, I don't know how people can forget one of the biggest busts of all time. Andre Ware. :shocker;
You mean Eddie Griffin. I would also nominate Jay Williams as a terrible #2 pick by the Chicago Bulls.
 

maddogchen

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Originally posted by: Ranger X
You mean Eddie Griffin. I would also nominate Jay Williams as a terrible #2 pick by the Chicago Bulls.[/quote]

If Jay Williams had not gotten injured, and had gone to another team instead of Chicago, I think he would be a bust. Chicago's style of play really hindered Jay's skills and thus his development.
 

MrX82

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Todd Fuller should be on that list. Drafted 11 by GS Warriors in 1996, Kobe was 13.
 

NeoV

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Mike Mamula was the guy from BC that the Eagles traded up to draft.......big Country is a good call too...