errors setting in BIOS

Toonster

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I have been having problems with my computer freezing randomly and have been unsuccessful so far in solving them. I just ran across an post somewhere that mentioned the errors setting in the BIOS. I have an ASUS A7V mb and right now it is set to halt on all errors. Could that have anything to do with my problems or is that only for bootup? If I changed it to halt on no errors would that help/hurt/have no effect? Thanks.
 

blueghost75

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that would not have any effect on you system's stability. You lockups are probably caused by something else. Common causees are: cheap ram, cheap power supply, bad cooling, etc.

If you would post your system specs, that would help us tell you what the problem is.....
 

Toonster

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I have been having this problem for quite some time. I had chalked it up to some sort of software conflict cause I had a lot of stuff on my computer but...I reformatted and reinstalled Win 98 SE a couple of weeks ago to try and solve the problem but no cigar.
My specs:
ASUS A7V mobo
Micron 128 MB PC133 Ram
SB Live Value! in PCI slot 3
Maxtor 30 GB 7200 HD
Maxtor 15 GB 5400 HD
AMD 750 T-Bird
Creative Labs Annihilator 2 video card

Before I reinstalled the computer would freeze probable 2-3 times a day - as far as I can remember it seemed to always be while I was scrolling with the mouse while on the internet or while the screensaver was running (webshots). Usually it would freeze after a couple of hours or so of letting the screensaver go but occasionally it would freeze within 5-10 minutes of the screensaver coming on. I reinstalled without the SB and it still froze so that isn't the problem. Another thing I have noticed is that a lot of times there will be a line of pixels probably about 5-15 pixels long somewhere in the picture on my desktop that are all mixed up(different colors). If I change the background picture it usually disappears. They will just appear randomly on the background for no apparent reason.

I have tried so many different settings etc. in the last couple of weeks that its hard to tell if something works or not. I did change my motherboard voltage setting from 3.56(default) to 3.3 and that seemed to help some. Also I think turning AGP fast writes off and setting the Bios to UC instead of USWC helps too. Like I said I can't seem to recreate the problem so it is really frustrating. Last week it worked fine for 2 or 3 days with no freezes and then the next day it froze up again. I did have some problems with the power supply when I first put it together but the place I bought it from exchanged the power supply and assured me that it was an AMD approved power supply(300 W).

I have installed the latest VIA drivers (4.31) with AGP in turbo mode and used Powerstrip to change AGP modes. I have it set to 1X right now but before I reinstalled I had installed them in normal mode and it was freezing then too so I don't think that is the problem either. I really hope someone can help me unravel this mystery. I know if anyone can it will be the people here. Thanks.
 

WarCon

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I had the exact same symptoms as yours, usually while in the Internet I would be scrolling with the wheel on my mouse and lock. The mouse would still move but no screen activity. And unlike regular locks, I could ctrl alt del out. The only thing that worked for me was to turn off 4x on the motherboard. I am still convinced its the VIA chipset having an issue, but that what stopped it for me.


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using the drivers in standard still locked as long as the motherboard was set to enable 4x. I use 2x now and works just fine and its not that big a difference. I have the drivers installed in turbo mode too.
 

blueghost75

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ok, here is what i now recommend. First, set that voltage jumper back to the default. now go into the bios and use the "set all defaults" option. Reinstall windows 98, and do not install powerstrip. Install the 4in1 drivers, then install the latest detonator drivers. What version of the detonators are you using now? Also, check that your video card is seated properly. I would remove it, and reseat it.

Are you running other software in the background? What type of cpu cooler are you using? What brand is your powersupply? The powersupply could still easily be the porblem, no matter what the salesguy said.

You might also try updating your bios to the latest version.

If the problem persists, check the ram clock speed and the CAS setting. Is your ram rated at CAS 3 or 2? Try running the ram at 100Mhz CAS3 for a while, just to see if that fixes the problem. If none of that fixes the problem, try installing powerstrip again and try downclocking your video card.

If none of that helps, then I would recommend getting your motherboard replaced. If there is still a problem, then mabe your video card needs to be replaced.
 

blueghost75

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or you could do what Warcon just said. I would try that first, then go from there. If it still doesn't work, I would update the bios first, and if it still doesn't work, then go down the stuff I listed to try untill it works.......
 

Toonster

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Thanks for the ideas. I'll try them when I get home (I'm at work right now).

I'm running the Nvidia 6.50 drivers (latest official as far as I now)
BIOS is 1004c. I've downloaded version 1007 but haven't flashed it yet - never flashed a BIOS before so I'm kind of hesitant.

Temp isn't a problem. I'm running about 46 C right now.

Also, with powerstrip does it change settings or are the settings only valid while it is running? If I set it to AGP mode 1X and then close Powerstrip does it stay at 1X or does it go back to 4X?
 

WarCon

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Well I know this is how it works for me is. If I change the software usage of the multiplier switch and leave the 4x setting in bios on, I get crashes. No matter what I set it to. I honestly have a feeling its something to do with the AGP driver on the VIA chipset and some interaction with either the USB or memory controller. And it seems like they know about the problems and are working on it, since they seem to be sending out new 4in1 patches every couple weeks it seems like.

 

Toonster

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Sorry if this is a stupid question but...
How do I set the AGP multiplier in the BIOS. On my board I have the option of setting AGP 4X to auto or manual but I can't find anywhere to actually set a specific 1X, 2X, or 4X. I know if I install the VIA drivers in normal mode it will limit it to 1X. Is that the only way to do it on my board or is there another way besides using Powerstrip?
 

WarCon

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Not really sure, try manual and use powerstrip maybe while you leave the via driver in turbo mode. Maybe that will let you set a true 2x. But to be honest I don't know.
 

HotWire

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I believe when you set it to manual it gives you two options:

APG Drive strength P Ctrl [C]
APG Drive Strength N Ctrl [E]

I would set both of these to [2]
 

HotWire

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Sorry, keep them at their default settings which are the letters that are there when you change to manual.
 

Toonster

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Well, so far so good. No freeze-ups for a whole day. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. :) Thanks again for all the help.
 

HotWire

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Keep us informed there are many having similar problems so every fix has to be spread around :) good luck with the system!
 

HotWire

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Does anyone know what the different options that show up when you select "manual" for the AGP 4X settings? I move mine to [2] on both and my computer lost video? Asus gives you plenty of options but no advice in the manual as to what these represent. They appear to be keyboard key values possibly for moving in and out of 4X mode? Why would Asus not give any detail on these in their manual other than they don't want you to alter them I would assume? But if they affect stability they should be mentioned! :(
 

Jorrit

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the bios settings wouldn't be a problem if the via chipset drivers weren't so BAD. maybe they can learn a little bit about writing drivers from intel. however, because of the bad drivers the agp speed isn't set to 4x by default.
flashing the bios is one of the easiest things to do; have done it dozens of times. the warning 'don't turn of the power or reset the computer while flashing' is quite unneccesary; i mean, how often accidentally reset your computer.
 

Toonster

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I'm running BIOS version 1004c right now. Is 1007 any better? Would it be worth it to upgrade? Or is there any other version you might recommend?