Epox 8KHA+

Mustanggt

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Hi I got this board and had no trouble getting it up and running, but the minute i tried any overclocking with it it goes down and gotta reset it same thing happens if I shutdown in XP the board shuts down and gotta reset it. Its fine under 140 FSB . its the N+ bios chip with 10/17/01 bios on it. doubt new bios fixes this.
 

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Your obviously an expierenced overclocker, but would you mind posting your system specs including brand of DDR, power supply,HDD? It could well be it's not the board holding you back(I'm sure you've considered this). I've seen alot of post by people getting excellent results from that board and either your board is defective or there has to be something your using that's holding you back because despite your problem it IS[/b] an excellent overclocking board.
 

Mustanggt

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I really hope its not the board but there are a handfull of threads with people having same problem.I searched for the fix on few different sites and cant find it. the only thing I could think that would hold me back is my radeon, i have crucial DDR ram ,I have tried to disable as many things in bios but to no avail. I think its the board. my code says FF as I write this I cant find FF in manual??
 

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FF just means boot attempt. it's at the bottom of this page post codes. Also, what power supply are you using? that can really limit overclocking.
 

Insane3D

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Ok, so you have one board that won't overclock well, and you are telling everyone not to get the board because it doesn't overclock? That's an interesting cross section you have there. I have a Epox 8KHA+ running a 160mhz FSB with the most agressive timings and all three memory slots filled with 256mb sticks of Crucial...should I go around telling everyone this is the ultimate overclocking board just because my one board does well....NO.

*sigh*

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Mustanggt

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Insane3D If it were just my board that does this then you would be correct in your statement but there are many more with same trouble. Im not tring to put down the board I put thread up in hopes someone has found the fix and can help me enjoy the overclocking benifits of the MB, look here
Reboot trouble now they replaced the whole bios chip there but I have the N+ chip now?? My epox will go to 155 FSB and run stable intill it reboots on me I just wish i could figure out why it does this, because it does it at 148 FSB also.
 

whalen

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2 in a row for me that won't get past the "FF"...ever. I have an enermax 550W also, and i've tried my Antec 300W...that isnt the problem. This board has some serious quality control issues.
 

Mustanggt

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whalen my board runs fine under 140FSB and it has the FF right now running stable isnt that bios version
 

chizow

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Umm....FF means successful boot attempt. Every1 else who has their board up and running has FF displayed. Mustanggt , sounds like your problem is PSU related. Random reboots are known to be caused by PSU burps and farts. I always let people interested in the 8KHA+ know up front that this board requires more juice than most....300W usually don't cut it, usually need at least 330W if its a good PSU, but 400W+ to be safe.

Whalen , its kind of hard to tell what the issue is with your board since you don't have a rig sig, you list the 2 PSUs you tried, but it could be a variety of problems. I'm thinking its video card related, as FF means its gone through its POST sequence, but I guess you're not getting any image. Have you tried booting with just your CPU and 1 stick of RAM? tried adding your video card? Are there any beeps? If you try and boot it with just those 3 things installed and its still no go, than you know its either your board or your PSU.

I've seen too many of these silly threads claiming this board sucks, and then the thread starter goes silent. Then a week later, he's telling every1 and their mother this is the greatest board ever. My point is, its fine to ask for help if you are having problems or better yet, search out results...Just don't say this board sucks b/c your having problems. Thats how rumors about a certain product get started. Yes, I think there were issues with early revision boards, but I am pretty confident they have been fixed now that this board has been out close to 2 months. I know I have to read the same responses over and over again that fix the same complaints and problems, so now I'm more inclined to believe its user error rather than defective board.

Chiz
 

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whalen wrote:

"2 in a row for me that won't get past the "FF"...ever. I have an enermax 550W also, and i've tried my Antec 300W...that isnt the problem. This board has some serious quality control issues."

Ditto. I've tried 5 now, and have yet to receive a working board. The first two absolutely refused to POST, despite my exhausting 5 different power supplies (Antec 400w, Enermax 431w, Enermax 531w, Sparkle 400w, PCP&C 425w), 4 different (tested) sets of RAM (Mushkin 512MB, Crucial 256MB, Kingston 256MB, Nanya 512MB), 3 (tested) CPUs (T-Bird 1.4GHz, XP 1600+, XP 1900+), 5 video cards (GF2 Ti, GF3 Ti200, GF3 Ti500, Radeon 64 DDR, AIW Radeon) ... The third board would POST only with the FSB jumper at 100. I could set the proper FSB (133) but do nothing else. And it was 100% unstable. The fourth board I received last week, again, no POST. And just on Monday night I received another -- no POST again. What are the odds? I'm using tested, quality components. And I'm not incompetent. And these boards were all from different vendors, with the exception of the first two (NewEgg). The last one I got locally. The last 3 had N+ chips, the first a K, the second an L.

Quality control seems to be terrible, at least with 8KHA+. I absolutely loved my 8K7A's, but unfortunately, 8KHA+ doesn't appear to be so rosy. Perhaps that damn VIA KT266A has something to do with it ... :D

So to those with working boards, you are lucky. There are, unfortunately, a great number without. Disproportionally high for a modern Epox board, for certain.
 

Mustanggt

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Well i changed my message thread maybey I jumped the gun a little was geting very frustrated. but I pulled the ram outa first slot moved to third slot reseated video card and pull the power from 2 cd drives, I am now running at 150FSB stable for coulpe hours ran 3dmark few times no reboots. I am not sure if it PS or not you guys getting the boards that dont even boot whats up with that. i think after 2 tries i would be very upset.
 

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<< 2 in a row for me that won't get past the "FF"...ever. I have an enermax 550W also, and i've tried my Antec 300W...that isnt the problem. This board has some serious quality control issues. >>

You should read this article as it relates to Enermax power supplies not being recommended with the fastest AMD CPUs link As to the Antec 300w, what is the combined output?
 

DoubleL

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Well I have mine running stable as a rock as of right now, Always has FF and just playing around it will not over clock past 145 but I don't care as long as it runs stable at 133, I mean I am running a XP1900 and it is locked, If it run stable and cool and wouldn't over clock past 135 I could care less, I think 1600 will do anything I want to do and I am running a 400+ power supply and a Swiftech, I saw the post were the guy got his to run stable at 180 and broke the 3D Mark record but man all the fans and the noise, I am happy with the board as is