EPA Watchdog Rips White House on NYC Air

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(AP) - At the White House's direction, the Environmental Protection Agency gave New Yorkers misleading assurances that there was no health risk from the debris-laden air after the World Trade Center collapse, according to an internal inquiry. President Bush's senior environmental adviser on Friday defended the White House involvement, saying it was justified by national security.
 

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Approval from the NSC, the report says, was arranged through the White House Council on Environmental Quality, which "influenced, through the collaboration process, the information that EPA communicated to the public through its early press releases when it convinced EPA to add reassuring statements and delete cautionary ones."

Why would EPA press releases need to be cleared through National Security?

 
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Three times the number of people who died in NY as a result of the terrorist attacks have perished in France due to heat; what's your point?
 

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Hahaha... I like this part.

The White House "convinced EPA to add reassuring statements and delete cautionary ones" by having the National Security Council control EPA communications in the wake of the Sept. 11 terror attacks, according to a report issued late Thursday by EPA Inspector General Nikki L. Tinsley.

Anyone care to explain how this is not the fault of Bush Co? Or discredit the source?
 

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Three times the number of people who died in NY as a result of the terrorist attacks have perished in France due to heat; what's your point?

No John, what is your point?
 

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Three times the number of people who died in NY as a result of the terrorist attacks have perished in France due to heat; what's your point?

wow. just wow.
 

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"National security," my ass. Typical Bush Admin secrecy and lock-down. They act like they're so concerned with getting the data in before making policy decisions and then they go and do this. Way to go, they probably contributed to 1/2 of Manhattan getting lung disease...
 
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Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
Three times the number of people who died in NY as a result of the terrorist attacks have perished in France due to heat; what's your point?

wow. just wow.

I agree; that's what I said when I heard the French president went on vacation to get away from the heat..."wow.just wow." The numbers sort of put the whole thing in perspective, no?

 

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Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
I agree; that's what I said when I heard the French president went on vacation to get away from the heat..."wow.just wow." The numbers sort of put the whole thing in perspective, no?

Sort of like when Bush Jr. joined the National Guard during Vietnam?
 

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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
I agree; that's what I said when I heard the French president went on vacation to get away from the heat..."wow.just wow." The numbers sort of put the whole thing in perspective, no?
Sort of like when Bush Jr. joined the National Guard during Vietnam?
And when he fled 9-11 on Air Force One?
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: sMiLeYz
Hahaha... I like this part.

The White House "convinced EPA to add reassuring statements and delete cautionary ones" by having the National Security Council control EPA communications in the wake of the Sept. 11 terror attacks, according to a report issued late Thursday by EPA Inspector General Nikki L. Tinsley.
Anyone care to explain how this is not the fault of Bush Co? Or discredit the source?
Just as "Monica" became a synonym for a particular sex act, so too is "Bush" becoming a synonym for lying. His whole administration is morally bankrupt. I'm starting to wonder if phrases like "Bushwhack" and "Bush-league" were prophecies.
 

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Regardless of whom is in office at a given time, is it possible for the President to micro manage every facet of the FED? Comes a time you have to trust your middle managers. When they get you in trouble you have to make changes and deal with it on a case by case basis.

 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: mastertech01
Regardless of whom is in office at a given time, is it possible for the President to micro manage every facet of the FED? Comes a time you have to trust your middle managers. When they get you in trouble you have to make changes and deal with it on a case by case basis.
I don't think you can let Bush off the hook that easily. The man at the top sets the tone for the organization. He defines the culture and establishes expectations. If this were the only example of distorting and concealing information, we could write it off as an aberration, a rogue who was working outside the system. That is definitely not the case with the Bush administration. This kind of deception is Bush's theme, and he must take responsibility for it.

To support this, I ask for any examples where Bush has "dealt" with subordinates being deceptive. As far as I know, he has done nothing to push his administration to be more open and honest. No one has been fired. No one has been publicly reprimanded. Nothing has changed.
 

mastertech01

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: mastertech01
Regardless of whom is in office at a given time, is it possible for the President to micro manage every facet of the FED? Comes a time you have to trust your middle managers. When they get you in trouble you have to make changes and deal with it on a case by case basis.
I don't think you can let Bush off the hook that easily. The man at the top sets the tone for the organization. He defines the culture and establishes expectations. If this were the only example of distorting and concealing information, we could write it off as an aberration, a rogue who was working outside the system. That is definitely not the case with the Bush administration. This kind of deception is Bush's theme, and he must take responsibility for it.

To support this, I ask for any examples where Bush has "dealt" with subordinates being deceptive. As far as I know, he has done nothing to push his administration to be more open and honest. No one has been fired. No one has been publicly reprimanded. Nothing has changed.

True, but we have seen a number of resignations. And as we all know often a resignation is a kind way to allow someone to be fired with dignity.

Bush will pay for his weaknesses but only time will tell how much. It will all come to head next November.
 
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Originally posted by: Orsorum
Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
I agree; that's what I said when I heard the French president went on vacation to get away from the heat..."wow.just wow." The numbers sort of put the whole thing in perspective, no?

Sort of like when Bush Jr. joined the National Guard during Vietnam?


You are close, sir; given that he joined, that's a bad example. I think it is more like hiding in Russia when your country calls upon you...