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Environmental Science test question, wtf

RedString

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My gf had this question on her Environmental Science test:

"What are the 6 steps of the environmental process?"

Is that even answerable without being specific on which processes they're referring to?
 

IronWing

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1) Identify the funding source
2) Identify publishing collaborators
3) Tailor last project to fit new funding criteria
4) Find grad student to do all the work
5) Win grant - Profit!
6) Ask for time extension
 

rcpratt

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1) Identify the funding source
2) Identify publishing collaborators
3) Tailor last project to fit new funding criteria
4) Find grad student to do all the work
5) Win grant - Profit!
6) Ask for time extension
You win.
 

RedString

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that does seem a bit vague but im gonna guess it refers to something they covered

That's what I thought but she went through chapters and I did as well, we looked online, etc... Environmental processes just are not defined in this way. There are many processes which themselves have individual processes but there is no 6 steps of just 'Environmental Process'

Another example of her teachers stupidity:


A scientific ___ is more valued than a scientific ____?

A. Fact / Theory
B. Fact / Hypothesis
C. Theory / Hypothesis


...wtf?



Next question: This makes petroleum a fossil fuel. True or False?


...


Pretty much the person teaching that course is a f*cking idiot. On top of his moronic questions, every single lab or quiz has spelling errors everywhere. Considering the guy obviously cant be that stupid since he has to have some sort of a degree, I'm guessing all of this has to do with the state requiring a certain % of the class to fail or else the teacher gets in trouble. He achieves this through pulling this sort of crap. Which I guess you have to do what you have to do but jesus christ he's sh!tting on peoples GPAs.
 
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A scientific ___ is more valued than a scientific ____?

A. Fact / Theory
B. Fact / Hypothesis
C. Theory / Hypothesis
The answer to that riddle is C. Or, at least, that's what I'm guessing the teacher is going for. It does seem to be a poorly written test.
 

mjrpes3

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Sounds like she missed the part of the lecture where the "answer" was given.
 

RedString

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That question isn't a riddle, it's poorly written like everything else he puts out.

C would be correct, & may be just tricky wording, if there was no such thing a scientific fact and it was properly called theory, except there is such a thing as scientific fact and a scientific theory is not the same thing.

A is right, B is right, C is right.

And the fossil fuel question just outright doesn't even give you anything to go on. You would figure a teacher would go over his own material at least once...

The last lab had the students creating a graph based on information provided from a chart. He asked for 3 or 4 things such as wind speed, day of week, yada, which was no where in the charts. So she emailed him explaining the problem, he insisted it was there and she was missing it, then provided an email attachment of the chart with what he said would be red arrows pointing to the information. There was no red arrows, and it was the same chart, with no wind speed, day of week, etc.

She used group email to ask everyone in class if they had same problem. Everyone replied and said they had the exact same issues and teacher was not helping, some people even said they gave up and decided to take a 0.

Teacher sent email out few days later saying everyone did lab wrong and they all got a 50.

I seriously want to get this guy fired.

/rant

edit: Also these questions are from a TEST, which he only has 2 tests then the final test so these are going to account for a huge portion of the class grade.
 
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AstroManLuca

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Wow that teacher is a dipshit. It sounds like he's barely capable of forming a coherent sentence. His test questions make sense solely in his own tiny brain.
 
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That's what I thought but she went through chapters and I did as well, we looked online, etc... Environmental processes just are not defined in this way. There are many processes which themselves have individual processes but there is no 6 steps of just 'Environmental Process'

Another example of her teachers stupidity:


A scientific ___ is more valued than a scientific ____?

A. Fact / Theory
B. Fact / Hypothesis
C. Theory / Hypothesis


...wtf?



Next question: This makes petroleum a fossil fuel. True or False?


...


Pretty much the person teaching that course is a f*cking idiot. On top of his moronic questions, every single lab or quiz has spelling errors everywhere. Considering the guy obviously cant be that stupid since he has to have some sort of a degree, I'm guessing all of this has to do with the state requiring a certain % of the class to fail or else the teacher gets in trouble. He achieves this through pulling this sort of crap. Which I guess you have to do what you have to do but jesus christ he's sh!tting on peoples GPAs.

Huh?
 

DaveSimmons

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Does she attend every class and take notes?

Not all classes take all of the material that will be covered from the text. If the instructor spent 5 lecturers that she skipped defining this 6-step process then she has no defense for that one.


A scientific ___ is more valued than a scientific ____?
A. Fact / Theory
B. Fact / Hypothesis
C. Theory / Hypothesis

The correct answer is C, right? Facts in science are just data, so are less valued than the hypotheses and theories that seek to explain those facts.
 

sao123

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My gf had this question on her Environmental Science test:

"What are the 6 steps of the environmental process?"

Is that even answerable without being specific on which processes they're referring to?

1)choose target alarmist agenda to push
2)spread fear uncertainty doubt mistrust and propaganda
3)convince congress to fund continued studies based on your alarmist agenda
4)get scientists to create fictitious data to support your theories
5)convince congress to pass programs which do nothing to solve problems, but line their pockets and spread other non-environmental liberal agendas
6)profit rinse repeat
 

RedString

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Yeah, I'm too lazy to google it. I've heard it around before but one of my teachers this semester elaborated on it a bit and yeah, it's true. Not sure if it's a Texas thing or what. Teacher HAVE to fail a specific % of class (didn't say what % was). I guess the state doesn't care if you're a great teacher who teaches the class well.

I like his take on it, what he does is allow unlimited absences so there are always people who miss too much of class because they can and fail - those get him his fail quota. He's got Ph.d in psychology, young guy, is contractor for military to teach profiling. Very intelligent. It's funny I'm going for IT degree and my best and favorite classes are his psychology oriented classes. Almost makes me want to switch to psychology major because he makes it so interesting.

What school?

Local community college (Kilgore Texas college). Just went because grant pays for all of it. Now I kind of wished I would have just went to a Uni on grant+loan but too late now, already half through.



Does she attend every class and take notes?

Not all classes take all of the material that will be covered from the text. If the instructor spent 5 lecturers that she skipped defining this 6-step process then she has no defense for that one.




The correct answer is C, right? Facts in science are just data, so are less valued than the hypotheses and theories that seek to explain those facts.

It's a web class, her only one which she had to have. The information tested on is directly from the text book over specified chapters.
& I think that is an opinion considering without knowing the facts, what do you have to build your theories or hypotheses on? Observations (facts) come first which would lead me to place them before hypothesis. Especially considering hypothesis might be false and worthless.

edit: She did pick C, but only because that seemed to be what they wanted to hear, not because we agree with it. I'll follow up with what answers were after she gets grade back. Assuming she can see individual questions missed.
 
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Imp

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I finally learned how to suceed in graduate school: memorize all bullet points and lists. There is probably one or two lists in her notes that has 6 steps in it. More of a test of if you took notes and showed up for class than what you know, which is fine by me. Haven't gotten anything less than A- since I figured that out.
 

destrekor

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I finally learned how to suceed in graduate school: memorize all bullet points and lists. There is probably one or two lists in her notes that has 6 steps in it. More of a test of if you took notes and showed up for class than what you know, which is fine by me. Haven't gotten anything less than A- since I figured that out.

now that you say that, I kind of figured that out too for undergrad too.
I instinctively always try the hardest to make bullet lists in my notes, because it seems most lectures have a bullet-point format.. difficult at times when there are no projections, but it almost seems handwritten notes they sometimes chalk out try and point it out for you.
But most classes seemed to fall into two categories: definitions, or bullet-points.

Or you get the "choose three of five questions, detailed discussion answers" - those tripped me up sometimes. Sometimes were easier though.
 

RedString

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I agree. I've found out it's much easier for me to memorize lists or power points that included only pertinent information. Textbooks just go right through me. Currently my firewall class books have so much crap in it, I think I'm going to have to make my own ppt. Which should help even more since I'm using the information AND getting only pertinent info.

edit: oh and there is no notes since it's a web class. Just busy work really, it's a joke. Oh & she checked her grades and turns out she has 100 on that graphing lab. I guess teacher isn't so lame after all. Probably gave everyone 100s since so many people started complaining.
 
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