Entropically Challenged

[Description]

Uncontrollable subatomic event are said to be random. Every molecule is directly and factually affected by those whch came before it, producing a highly calculable stream of entropy. If we could produce a machine to monitor and analyze the innards and transactions of every quark in a region, chaos would cease to be; the process of living itself would be rendered sterile.


How many ATP molecules are required to lift a finger?

 

[Falloutboy]

the problem thier is no way to directly observe it.

 

[AsiLuc]

A little bit of quantumtheory would heal you my friend.

There is simply no way to simultaneous measure both place and velocity of a particle. (This is but one form, others incorporates energy, time and wavelength due to the wavecharacter of mater..)
So first off, you can't know everything you want to know.

Secondly, if you knew, you coulnd't even predict what would happen, because we live in a coincidental world. Exempli gratia: when will an electron hop down to a lower energystate? Maybe in a femtosecond, maybe a bit later.. When will this particle decay? Impossible to tell. You can keep going with this for a few more lines.

Thirdly, and most importantly, you don't understand entropy.
It is in no way related to human perception. You seem to believe that if we knew something, something we can't even behold, that entropy would cease to be, right? Chaos would cease?

Entropy is simply the Log of the number of way in which energy could divide itself among all possible states in a system. Think about this.
That's totally independent of us.

I hope this helped, it's hard to understand without a scientific basis, I know, but I'll try to help you!
Good luck!

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Description
How many ATP molecules are required to lift a finger?

Exactly 4,029,284.

 

[Description]

There is simply no way to simultaneous measure both place and velocity of a particle.

Advancement works by innovation, not progression of the apparent. There was once no way to determine many things.

Secondly, if you knew, you coulnd't even predict what would happen, because we live in a coincidental world. Exempli gratia: when will an electron hop down to a lower energystate? Maybe in a femtosecond, maybe a bit later.. When will this particle decay? Impossible to tell. You can keep going with this for a few more lines.

Entropy is simply the Log of the number of way in which energy could divide itself among all possible states in a system. Think about this.
That's totally independent of us.

It doesn't need to be.

I get what you're saying, yet I refuse to believe that if it isn't understood it yet, it is impossible to understand.
Though I suppose the popular opinion is always right?

 

[f95toli]

Your are missing the point. The fact that you can not measure both velocity and positions of a particle at the same time has nothing to do with technological limitations,
It is simply the best known example of what is sometimes called a conjugate pair (phase and charge is another example). You can use basic quantum mechanics to show that the products of the uncertainites of the two variables must be bigger than a certain value. This is known as the Heisenberg principle.

It is one of the most fundamental facts in physics and is simply a consequence of how nature works, is has nothing to do with techological limits.
So we DO understand it (it has been known for about 80 years) and the Heisinberg principle is actually used in certain applications, the best known being quantum cryptograhy.

 

[Description]

The fact that you can not measure both velocity and positions of a particle at the same time has nothing to do with technological limitations,

You wouldn't need to know.

 

[AsiLuc]

Well, we would like to. That's what we do in physics, do measurements and create new theories supported by the measurements...

 

[f95toli]

And, as I stated above we do use this fact in applications.
Since the Heisenberg principle has to be fulfilled we can acutally "force" a physical system to behave in a certain way. I we limit the possible values of one variable in a pair the uncertainty of the other has to grow. In quntum optics you can measure this indirectly by doing something called quantum tomography on the states of the system.