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Enterprise backup solution

IHateMyJob2004

IHateMyJob2004

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I need a backup solution for Windows 2008 R2. The server has a small scale test environment on it. It also has Oracle 11G installed.

I am currently considering Backup Exec 2010. Should i consider a different version? With Symantics version system I don't even know what hte latest is. Is 12.5 current or 2010? Seems like 2010 is what I want.

Does Backup Exec 2010 include the patches for R1, R2, R3 or are those seperate products? Again Symantecs site sucks.

Also, what other solutions should I consider?

EDIT 1: This is an offline server so no cloud
 
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backup exec for one server? Sign up with a cloud provider

we run some of our backups on i365, and they have a cloud product as well
 
This is an offline system. No cloud.

And I've had to help someone use a cloud service to recover in the past. Have fun when that day comes. I hope nothing in your setup is time critical.
 
There will be several servers. All similar. One has the addition that Oracle will be on it. What works for that one server will work for them all.
 
IHateMyJob2004 said:
There will be several servers. All similar. One has the addition that Oracle will be on it. What works for that one server will work for them all.
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backing up a server with a database is different then a regular server.

make sure you know how to back up an oracle database.

otherwise, it'll get corrupted. i highly recommend reading this.

the backup of the database data should be done separately of the server.
 
Backup Exec 2010 R3 is the latest version. If you own 2010 or R2, I believe it's a free upgrade (though you might need an active support contract - not sure). They are separate products, so you'll be purchasing R3 at this point.

Since you will be backing up several servers, you should consider getting a cheap server to install Backup Exec on (media server) and then deploy agents to each server you are backing up. You would also deploy the Oracle agent if you want to use Backup Exec to manage the Oracle db backups.

If you contact a sales rep for CDW, they will have symantec reps/resources available to them, and they'll get you a quote all of the products you need for your deployment. You'll likely need


  • 1 copy of backup exec
  • 1 windows server agent license for each windows server agent you deploy
  • 1 oracle agent license for each oracle agent you deploy.
CDW will get you better pricing than retail as well.

You should 100% get support for this as well. It's only ~$500 and they will provide webex session support and get your backups/restores going as you WILL run into issues at some point. I contact them at least 5 times a year for odd problems that have no solutions or info available in their forums/community.

I've used NetVault in the past and preferred it a great deal over Backup Exec. It's been a few years though (previous job) so not sure about their latest versions. Worth checking out though. They also have Oracle agents. http://www.quest.com/netvault/
 
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Lifted,

So, this solution you mention will handle Oracle 11G properly? I've seen that Backup Exec 2010 R3 supports Oracle 11G software so I thought that meant that Backup Exec will do things smart enough that no corruption occurs (via hooks into Oracle through osme API). And this is what the oracle agent sounds like.
 
Hi - I am one of the Backup Exec Product Managers at Symantec and I just wanted to help you with your questions. The latest version of Backup Exec is 2010. We went from 12.5 to 2010. The new version of Backup Exec - Backup Exec 2012 will be out next year.

If you were to purchase BE 2010, you would get the latest build which incorporates R2 and R3. All existing BE 2010 customers with or without support are entitled to the R2 and R3 updates for free. If you would like to try be 2010 for free - you can download the product from www.backupexec.com/trybe.

If you also wanted to try out Symantec System Recovery as an alternative solution, I can send you a copy completely free. This copy is a full licensed copy, however it does not come with technical support.

If there is anything we can do to help you, just let me know. Thanks, kate_lewis@symantec.com
 
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Hi - I am one of the Backup Exec Product Managers at Symantec and I just wanted to help you with your questions. The latest version of Backup Exec is 2010. We went from 12.5 to 2010. The new version of Backup Exec - Backup Exec 2012 will be out next year.
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When will BackupExec 2012 support a Windows Server 2012 install?
 
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I've used Legato (purchased by EMC), ArcServIT (old), BackupExec, and Veritas Netbackup. They all get the job done, but ArcServ was the oldest of those I mentioned and had the highest failure rate (but it was on a Netware 4.2 box in 1998).

What you have to consider for the Oracle box is that you'll need to configure it to do hot or cold backups. If you do cold backups, I recommend creating a volume on a hard drive large enough to house the database and simply backing it up locally prior to a scheduled backup service grabbing the data. This will shrink the downtime window to something manageable since most network backups get throttled and typically max out to 10-20MB/sec per server when a lot are running. (real world...it's getting faster with faster drives and faster networks)

Aside from that, just price it out and see what it'll run you per license and if you're doing LTO or DLT technologies for tapes, pair your backup software with whatever the tape library vendors feel most comfortable with. Sometimes they have extended driver sets that can speed up tape inventory control or maintenance actions.

LTO5 & LTO6 are starting to really look good with compression and write speeds if you have many TBs to backup with LTO6 claiming up to 400MB/sec writes... I'm not sure what kind of network pipe or client resources it would take to accomplish that.
LTO-1 (200 GB), LTO-2 (400 GB), LTO-3 (800 GB), LTO-4 (1.6 TB), LTO-5 (3 TB), LTO-6 (6.25 TB)

http://www.lto.org/technology/generations.html
 
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jflaherty said:
When will BackupExec 2012 support a Windows Server 2012 install?
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While this is a older thread, Backup Exec 2012 will not support Server 2012 / R2 as a media server
You can run the 2010 R3 remote agent on it to do the backup

You will have to wait until the release of Backup Exec 2014 for support as a media server
 
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