Enough is Enough and cant stand it! **Update**O/C problem may be solved?

BuckMaster

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I just cant figure it out!

My current setup:
Soltek SL-75FRN2
Barton 2500+ (wk 30)
SK-7 H/S
Kingston Hyper-X 3000 Duel Mode (2-256 sticks)
Antec TruePower 430

Heres the deal I just upgraded to the above H/D.

Previous setup.
Soltek SL-75FRN2
XP2100
AK-7
Kingston Hyper-X 3000 Duel Mode (2-256 sticks) and tried 2-Corsair XMS 3200 ram.
Antec TruePower 430

Ive never flashed the bios still has the stock date of 2/20/03 or something like that.
I could never get over 166FSB without beeps and having to clear the cmos and hit the insert key on bootup.
However I was able to run the XP2100 like 12X and the FSB@166 getting like 2.17Ghz. But got errors running Prime 95. But was stable in windows and playing games. I tried relaxing my memory timing to no avail to get over 166FSB.

I thought for sure with this new CPU I would surley get over 166FSB! I can get 11X166 but 170 it wont boot! Im I missing a jumper if so the jumper # and what it should be set to. Bios update....anything!! This is driving me crazy! I dont think its the memory because I had it replaced and the Corsair XMS 3200 ram did the samething. Ill try the Corsair XMS 3200 again later.

I mean everyone with this board is getting 200+FSB. Hell I would be happy with 180FSB!
The only thing I can think of is my board is just not a good O/Cer?
I have to be missing something somewere and probably something stupid! PLEASE someone help for the life of god! :(

If you need anymore specs lmk!
Thanks!!


 

Duvie

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I would definitely think about flashing to the latest bios for that mobo as it has been known in the past upg\dates can quite often fix these sorts of issues...
 

bjc112

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Buck,

Have you increased the Vcore and Vdimm ?

Especially the Vdimm ( 2.8v is a sweet spot )

And your motherboard isn't the problem, people have had good luck with board overclocking...

:D

BTW, are you a hunter!??!

Just wondering..:beer:
 

4x4expy

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Originally posted by: shady06
no, the board IS a good OCer

run memtest and make sure the ram isnt faulty

Amen, run Memtest with each stick seperately then in dual channel mode and see if you come up with errors in anny config. If your memory is bunk, you will pull every last hair trying to OC that rig.
 

DAPUNISHER

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Your getting good advice brudda :) The D1.5L bios seems to be a winner so give it a go. Try the ram 1 stick at a time and in dc-ddr mode in slots 2-3 and SC-DDR mode in slots 1-2 as well and I suggest expert mode with the timings set manually to conservative values E.G. 2.5-3-3-11 and vDIMM 2.7v to take that out of the mix. IIRC you have awesome chipset cooling mods you added so that's not a factor, and your PSU and everything else is race ready. It should not be necessary to touch the vdd setting with that board for speeds under 215-220 FSB but you can bump it up a notch or 2 as a troubleshooting measure since your chipset is cooled so well.

I'm sorry to hear you still aren't getting the lovin' you should from that board, and if it doesn't get worked out soon, just sell it and buy the NF7-S since it goes for $111 shipped now and has soundstorm, IEEE 1394, and SATA=awesome deal. Besides the new rev. of the Abit is as good as it gets for overclocking sktA CPUs.
 

BuckMaster

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OK Thanks everyone for your reply and I really appciate it!

I will try each stick one at a time which it didnt make a bit of differant with my previous XP2100 CPU.
Will also flash bios if anyone has the 1.5 bios link id apperciate it if not Ill search for it tonight.
Also getting 2- 256-3200 fresh sticks of Cosair to try Thursday.


bjc112, Yea, Love to hunt!! :) Hope to get to Deer Hunt this year!
Also I know the board is a good O/C I was just saying maybe mine was a dud or maybe a weak dimm slot is all.

DAPUNISHER everything noted and will work on it tonight, thanks for your help again!


Again thanks everyone I hope I can get this issue fixed with YOUR help!



 

BuckMaster

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OMG! I went ahead and flashed my BIOS to version 1.5 the lasest on soltek website.
First after flashing then rebooting I got the following message
"PXE-E01: PCI Vender and Device IDS dont match!" Im like oh $hit what now. I then turned the PC off and restarted and came right up. Then rebooted a few time and came right up. I then entered the BIOS went into my ram settings before I had 100/133/166 then I was setting the X11@166 like shown from one of the options 100/133/166. Then thats when I started using the extra 1Mhz FSB trying to go up but NEVER would go to 170FSB!

After flashing my bios I now have the 100/133 settings but the 166 was gone! I then just manually uppited to 166 rebooted and had my default Barton running stock! Then went to 170 PA POW fired right UP! Then 175 PA POW fired right up again! Now running X11@175 = 1929.3Ghz. Been running Prime95 for an hour error free! :D

Another odd thing is when ever entering the BIOS and saving existing I get some kind of message saying something like Not to shutdown and power up after resetting something along those lines.

After I run it a day or so Ill see how high I can get the FSB then work with the memoery timing and multiplier.
 

DAPUNISHER

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That's great to hear brudda :D :beer: That message is just a warning they added to help prevent bios death so don't sweat it, but do heed the advice ;)
 

NEWKILLA

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ok guys i don t care who but hook me up with a bios PLEASE

HAHAHAH


KILLLLAAAAAAAAAA
 

BuckMaster

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I just e-mailed you a copy of the bootdisk program small and simple! Just make sure to copy the files from the BIOS you D/L to the bootdisk make sure to get the BIOS for your board. If you have the same board as me I sent a link also. If not you can still follow the link for more BIOS drivers from Soltek.

Good Luck!
 

bjc112

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bjc112, Yea, Love to hunt!! Hope to get to Deer Hunt this year!

Missed a hell of a 11 point last year in PA, now i have reloacted to Arizona so i might not to get out as much... May-b to Colorado...

Anyhow, when you start pushing that memory further, up that Vdimm (2.8v)

That will help stabilize the system.
 

BuckMaster

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bjc112, Good luck this year! :)

BTW..

Cpu-Z version 1.16.
Number of CPUs 1
Cpu Name AMD Athlon XP (Barton)
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
Family / Model / Stepping 6 A 0
Extended Family / Model 7 A
Package Socket A
Technology 0.13µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
Cpu Clock 2090.1 MHz
Clock multiplier x 11.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 190.0 MHz
Bus Speed 380.0 MHz
L1 Data Cache 64 Kbytes, 2-way set associative, 64 bytes line size
L1 Instruction Cache 64 Kbytes, 2-way set associative, 64 bytes line size
L2 Cache 512 Kbytes, 16-way set associative, 64 bytes line size
L2 Speed 2090.1 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 64 bits

And going........ ;)


 

Duvie

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Glad to hear it....These bios updates can really help when you think it is something totally wrong with the cpu or the ram....Makes you wonder why all this shite isn't worked out prior to release of the product...
 

BuckMaster

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Thanks! I can run prime95 stable at 190 FSB at 195 it doesnt want to boot running memory 8-3-3. I spoke to soon! :) Ill probably leave it be seeing it shows as a 3200+ now. :) If anything maybe like bjc112 suggest upping the Vdimm or core just a tad.
 

Duvie

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Prime95 is good but in my opinion only catche memroy errors when it gets really flaky. Try running memtest86 at 190 and make sure the ram is cutting it at that speed. I can prime pass 3.3ghz with 458mhz ddr but memtest will error in several test in even pass 1. I run my memory at 2.8v and it is comparable corsair pc3000 stuff....
 

NEWKILLA

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i get the new frn2 on tues, now i ll have 2 headaches

man am i a glutten for punishment, at least this one

already has the 4.- bios

i ll keep ya posted

Killlllaaaaa
 

BuckMaster

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Duvie I ran the memtest runs fine with no errors at 190FSB. At 195FSB it wont boot but like I said I might make a few adjustments but im happy for the most part.

Good Luck!
NEWKILLA :)
 

BuckMaster

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Well it seems its my memory that holding me back. My memory timings at 190FSB are 8-3-3 and runs stable with Prime95 and memtest. If I try 195 with 8-3-3 windows system errors. I then tried back down to 190FSB at 7-2-2 timming and I get window errors at start up.

It looks like your correct bjc112 if Im going to get any higher I need to up the vdimm. The thing is I wonder if will make up the 10 more FSB to reach 200FSB! :)
 

Soulkeeper

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yeah let us know if you get 200 stable, i don't see any reason why you shouldn't
good luck

 

BuckMaster

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Hell since I flashed my BIOS and seeming to help my issue I wondering if I should try my Kingston 3000 Hyper-X again now just for kicks. I would think the Corsair 3200 would be the one to go with though. Im not sure how high Kingston 3000 Hyper-X is supose to go.
 

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That corsair 3200ddr will run it's spec speed I'm certain, so try giving it a bump up in voltage and the vdd a bump to 1.7v and see if that gets you over the hump.