Enlighten me, ATOT

[jlee]

Exercise, sunscreen, special diets, tobacco use, alcohol, drug use..sure, that makes sense.

But..do you have guns in the home?

 

[se7en]

So they know if they dont fix you right you might come back and pop a cap in someone.

 

[shortylickens]

Statistically, gun owners are more likely to have gun accidents.
Some health insurance and life insurance companies actually raise your rates.

 

[Newbian]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Statistically, gun owners are more likely to have gun accidents.
Some health insurance and life insurance companies actually raise your rates.

As they should just as if you smoked or drink.

 

[guyver01]

because when you go into the doctor in 6 months complaining of multiple holes in your torso, and a high level of lead in your blood... they'll know you probably shot yourself.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Statistically, gun owners are more likely to have gun accidents.
Some health insurance and life insurance companies actually raise your rates.

This is the questionnaire for my new PCP, not for my health insurance.

 

[shortylickens]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Statistically, gun owners are more likely to have gun accidents.
Some health insurance and life insurance companies actually raise your rates.

This is the questionnaire for my new PCP, not for my health insurance.

Does your health insurance company ask if you smoke or drink?

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Statistically, gun owners are more likely to have gun accidents.
Some health insurance and life insurance companies actually raise your rates.

This is the questionnaire for my new PCP, not for my health insurance.

Does your health insurance company ask if you smoke or drink?

Probably.., I don't remember.

Again, this questionnaire is for my new primary care physician. It has absolutely nothing to do with the insurance policy.

 

[Newbian]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Statistically, gun owners are more likely to have gun accidents.
Some health insurance and life insurance companies actually raise your rates.

This is the questionnaire for my new PCP, not for my health insurance.

Does your health insurance company ask if you smoke or drink?

Probably.., I don't remember.

Again, this questionnaire is for my new primary care physician. It has absolutely nothing to do with the insurance policy.

You don't think they share this information with the insurance?

 

[krazydimund]

Originally posted by: JLee
Exercise, sunscreen, special diets, tobacco use, alcohol, drug use..sure, that makes sense.

But..do you have guns in the home?

its one of the standard questions in the social history for a full h&p. essentially a risk factor for injury, especially if you also use alcohol/illicits. potential litigation if you don't ask and the patient has suicidal or homicidal ideation and carries it out, successfully or unsuccessfully. a great deal of medicine is guided by fear of lawsuits, which is one of the reasons why american health care costs so much.

 

[MoPHo]

From a PCP's stand point, it may come in handy if a patient claims to have depression.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: MoPHo
From a PCP's stand point, it may come in handy if a patient claims to have depression.

Whether the people saying this are joking or not, I wouldn't be surprised if this does have something to do with it.

They wouldn't ask it if there wasn't a statistical reason to know, and if you don't like answering it then just don't answer it.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Newbian

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: shortylickens

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Statistically, gun owners are more likely to have gun accidents.
Some health insurance and life insurance companies actually raise your rates.

This is the questionnaire for my new PCP, not for my health insurance.

Does your health insurance company ask if you smoke or drink?

Probably.., I don't remember.

Again, this questionnaire is for my new primary care physician. It has absolutely nothing to do with the insurance policy.

You don't think they share this information with the insurance?

"This is a confidential record that will be kept in your medical record and will not be released to anyone without your written authorization."

Though I suppose I'll have to sign something eventually that releases all info to the insurance company. Not that it would affect my insurance anyway P), but I thought it odd. I have never been asked before.

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: MoPHo
From a PCP's stand point, it may come in handy if a patient claims to have depression.

Whether the people saying this are joking or not, I wouldn't be surprised if this does have something to do with it.

They wouldn't ask it if there wasn't a statistical reason to know, and if you don't like answering it then just don't answer it.

Haha...I have health insurance through my employer. Having a gun at home is probably not on top of the 'most-likely-to-be-injured-by' list.

 

[MoPHo]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: MoPHo
From a PCP's stand point, it may come in handy if a patient claims to have depression.

Whether the people saying this are joking or not, I wouldn't be surprised if this does have something to do with it.

They wouldn't ask it if there wasn't a statistical reason to know, and if you don't like answering it then just don't answer it.

I was just thinking that if a Dr. knows that a patient has a gun, they'd be less inclined to just give them pills rather than explore other options (which they shouldn't to begin with) as medication tends to make people worse before better.

 

[daniel1113]

It doesn't belong on your record, but physician organizations have an agenda just like any other group.

AMSA
Western Journal of Medicine

etc.

EDIT: The last time I went to visit a doctor, I carried my 1911 into the examination room. Needless to say, he didn't have to ask about gun ownership in my house. We also spent about 15 minutes talking about his shooting competitions.

 

[Mo0o]

It's standard for a lot of places. Gun owners are involved in more gun related injuries than non-owners. It's also a very pertinent factor if the patient indicates he wishes to harm himself or others, or has a drinking/drug problem. It's also important if it was a woman and she said her husband owned guns and was also abusive.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Statistically, gun owners are more likely to have gun accidents.
Some health insurance and life insurance companies actually raise your rates.

about as good of statistics as that people that ride bikes are more likely to have bike accidents.

 

[2Xtreme21]

C'mon, you care about this, but you don't mention the 15 question section asking if you piss normally? I think there was a big section on sexual history on my last PCP questionnaire too. Quit getting your panties in a bunch thinking "the man" is gonna take yer shootin' thangs.

 

[Gothgar]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Statistically, gun owners are more likely to have gun accidents.
Some health insurance and life insurance companies actually raise your rates.

about as good of statistics as that people that ride bikes are more likely to have bike accidents.

or people who drive cars have auto accidents?

 

[Q]

I thought this was an Arkaign thread

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
C'mon, you care about this, but you don't mention the 15 question section asking if you piss normally? I think there was a big section on sexual history on my last PCP questionnaire too. Quit getting your panties in a bunch thinking "the man" is gonna take yer shootin' thangs.

He's not getting his panties in a bunch, he's asking why. He's a cop, so he is the man.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
C'mon, you care about this, but you don't mention the 15 question section asking if you piss normally? I think there was a big section on sexual history on my last PCP questionnaire too. Quit getting your panties in a bunch thinking "the man" is gonna take yer shootin' thangs.

He's not getting his panties in a bunch, he's asking why. He's a cop, so he is the man.

:beer:

 

[Squisher]

Lead poisoning.

 

[DayLaPaul]

Because it is against federal law for someone suffering from a mental disorder to own a firearm. The VTech gunman comes to mind. I wonder what how he answered his questionaire.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: DayLaPaul
Because it is against federal law for someone suffering from a mental disorder to own a firearm. The VTech gunman comes to mind. I wonder what how he answered his questionaire.

I don't think so. The question is written in a form to ask about guns being in the household, not specifically owned by a certain individual.

If that were the case- if they were attempting to obtain information for the government, I think they'd be treading a very fine line. The physician would be violating the doctor/client priviledge, and there also may be a case for 4th amendment violation, as they would essentially be acting as an agent for the government.

It's also against the law to possess cocaine- but do you think the office is going to call the cops if someone says they're an addict? Hello lawsuit...