English grammar question

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender

Originally posted by: jw0ollard
Do you say:

A) It's all in a day's work.

or

B) It's all in a days work.

You two "no apostrophe" people better answer B.

I say your Professor is wrong.

It's all in a day's work.

It is all in a day is work.

It should be B.

LOL are you serious? god help you.

 

[Syringer]

http://www.pgs.org.uk/contact/findus.php

The Portsmouth Grammar school says it's minutes' walk so it must be right.

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Omg! Im not english and I have better grammar than most of you

Props to jw0ollard for having common sense

*waits for flames about me not using ' in Im, or periods*

 

[jw0ollard]

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
Omg! Im no english and I have more grammars then most of you

Big-mega-ultra-(+2STR)-(+100HP) props to jw0ollard for have the common sense

*waiting for my flames not using ' in Im, or periods*

fixed (my take)

OR

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
Omg! Not in English, my grammar than most of

Common sense paperwork jw0ollard

* Waiting for the summer of flame ", or the period * Instant Messaging

fixed (Google Translator's take)... I used English > German > French > English > Russian > English > Japanese > English > Korean > English

Waiting for the summer of flame, or the period!! Instant Messaging!!

^^^ STILL makes more sense than the people who told me my grammar was wrong!

 

[EKKC]

i don't even think "a few minutes' walk from..." is proper grammar, apostrophe or not.

just rephrase! R'O'F'L

 

[Xstatic1]

Originally posted by: her209
No apostrophe.

:thumbsup:

 

[jw0ollard]

Originally posted by: Xstatic1

Originally posted by: her209
No apostrophe.

:thumbsup:

:thumbsdown:

Can the OP please add a damn poll? If the majority of ATOT votes "No apostrophe" I swear I'm never going to come here again.

Objective genitive; classifying genitive

* the Hundred Years' War
* a dollar's worth
* two weeks' notice
* A Midsummer Night's Dream
* a prisoner's release

In these constructions, the marker serves to specify, delimit, or describe the head noun.

The paraphrase with of is often un-idiomatic or ambiguous with these genitives:

* the war of a Hundred Years
* the pay of a day
* notice of two weeks

So...

* a few minutes' walk
* a two day's drive
---------------------------
* a walk of a few minutes <---- sure sounds un-idiomatic and ambiguous to me.
* a drive of two days <---- ditto.

If that isn't genitive case, then please prove me wrong. Again, for the "No apostrophe" proponents... you're actually saying that "a few minutes walk" is correct??? If so, please redeem yourself and ammend that to "No apostrophe, no 's' in minute... and hyphenate 'few minute' for good measure".

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Originally posted by: jw0ollard

Originally posted by: Xstatic1

Originally posted by: her209
No apostrophe.

:thumbsup:

:thumbsdown:

Can the OP please add a damn poll? If the majority of ATOT votes "No apostrophe" I swear I'm never going to come here again.

Objective genitive; classifying genitive

* the Hundred Years' War
* a dollar's worth
* two weeks' notice
* A Midsummer Night's Dream
* a prisoner's release

In these constructions, the marker serves to specify, delimit, or describe the head noun.

The paraphrase with of is often un-idiomatic or ambiguous with these genitives:

* the war of a Hundred Years
* the pay of a day
* notice of two weeks

So...

* a few minutes' walk
* a two day's drive
---------------------------
* a walk of a few minutes <---- sure sounds un-idiomatic and ambiguous to me.
* a drive of two days <---- ditto.

If that isn't genitive case, then please prove me wrong. Again, for the "No apostrophe" proponents... you're actually saying that "a few minutes walk" is correct??? If so, please redeem yourself and ammend that to "No apostrophe, no 's' in minute... and hyphenate 'few minute' for good measure".

Seriously, if after this people keep replying "no apostrophe", Im gonna start thinking we have several Miss South Carolinas around here

Your grammar, like everywhere such as, sucks, as in the Iraq and South Africa

 

[Jeff7]

So a few minutes walk into a bar, and the bartender says, "Hey, you got the time?"

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: se7en
This is what the commercial for analfest 2k8 would be like that I envision in my mind.

:laugh::beer:

 

[MegaVovaN]

OP, give complete example sentence and context...

 

[jw0ollard]

Originally posted by: Jeff7
So a few minutes walk into a bar, and the bartender says, "Hey, you got the time?"

I like the joke, but I hope you actually read the thread. While it's not technically possessive, the noun still "owns" the other noun per se.

Fun fact: Our possessive case actually originated from the genitive case -- the thing everyone is ignoring to justify why they don't think there should be an apostrophe at the end of 'minutes'. Ohhh, the irony.

Go ahead and flame me for spouting information straight from Wikipedia. I admit I just learned most of this stuff last night, but at least I've always understood the concept.

Go ahead and call me anal, too. I have an interest in linguistics and if you want to call that "anal," fine by me.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: jw0ollard

Originally posted by: Xstatic1

Originally posted by: her209
No apostrophe.

:thumbsup:

:thumbsdown:

Can the OP please add a damn poll? If the majority of ATOT votes "No apostrophe" I swear I'm never going to come here again.

Objective genitive; classifying genitive

* the Hundred Years' War
* a dollar's worth
* two weeks' notice
* A Midsummer Night's Dream
* a prisoner's release

In these constructions, the marker serves to specify, delimit, or describe the head noun.

The paraphrase with of is often un-idiomatic or ambiguous with these genitives:

* the war of a Hundred Years
* the pay of a day
* notice of two weeks

So...

* a few minutes' walk
* a two day's drive
---------------------------
* a walk of a few minutes <---- sure sounds un-idiomatic and ambiguous to me.
* a drive of two days <---- ditto.

If that isn't genitive case, then please prove me wrong. Again, for the "No apostrophe" proponents... you're actually saying that "a few minutes walk" is correct??? If so, please redeem yourself and ammend that to "No apostrophe, no 's' in minute... and hyphenate 'few minute' for good measure".

Count my vote as no apostrophe.

 

[jw0ollard]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: jw0ollard
<-------- You win!!

Count my vote as no apostrophe.

Damn, I didn't think that would take as long as it did. C'mon ATOT.....

Good job, though.. You get the cookie I left for the first troll to vote "No Apostrophe" just to piss me off!!

Here's another!

 

[Syringer]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Years'_War

APOSTROPHE!

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Killerme33
I turned in an English paper and the professor returned it with corrections. She crossed out the apostrophe in the following sentence. Word spell check says to put the apostrophe back in. Who is right?

...a few minutes' walk from...

dear god...to even question this.

Just an FYI Word and most spell/grammar checkers are only suited to get you to about an 8th grade level. They usually don't catch a lot of of things.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: LS20

Originally posted by: jw0ollard


For expressions of time and measurement, the possessive is shown with an apostrophe -s: "one dollar's worth," "two dollars' worth," "a hard day's night," "two years' experience," "an evening's entertainment," and "two weeks' notice"

Edit: Fuck you. Look up "mind's eye" if you have to. Idiot.

Reality is what's observed through the eyes and interpreted in the mind. So it is as if the eyes are the mind's. So in that situation, the use of apostrophe is appropriate. However, that situation is not analogous to the first.

So touchy. Defensive much?

hehe, apparently taking away his accuracy in grammar may leave him with nothing.

 

[alkemyst]

Anyway everyone is going way off on tangents to determine this is right or wrong.

You simply can do this:

It was a 3 minute walk from.

same meaning above...you don't make it "It was a 3 minute's walk"

 

[krotchy]

Questions for the grammar Nazi's:

Did you not explicitly understand what was being conveyed when the OP writes minutes' vs minutes. Was the sentence unreadable due to the lack of apostrophe, but somehow easier to understand with one? WHY DO YOU CARE? Honestly, I just don't understand it. I know my grammar is mediocre at best, but I get my point across whenever I write something. Who cares if an apostrophe is misplaced.

When people read a post and choose to reply to the grammar and not the question its incredibly annoying. Almost as annoying as the amount of flaming I will likely receive for asking these questions.

 

[kranky]

I don't generally get involved with grammar threads, but this one lured me in.

The apostrophe belongs. There is no question it belongs. The OP's professor is wrong. There is no point in arguing the opposing view because that's like arguing about whether the earth orbits the sun or vice-versa. There is only one right answer.

 

[Syringer]

Originally posted by: krotchy
Questions for the grammar Nazi's:

Did you not explicitly understand what was being conveyed when the OP writes minutes' vs minutes. Was the sentence unreadable due to the lack of apostrophe, but somehow easier to understand with one? WHY DO YOU CARE? Honestly, I just don't understand it. I know my grammar is mediocre at best, but I get my point across whenever I write something. Who cares if an apostrophe is misplaced.

When people read a post and choose to reply to the grammar and not the question its incredibly annoying. Almost as annoying as the amount of flaming I will likely receive for asking these questions.

Because the OP asked us?

 

[torpid]

Which version of Word is this? In any case, Word is right. You'll not likely win the argument, unfortunately, because it is a losing battle to argue grammar with an idiot.

 

[krotchy]

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: krotchy
Questions for the grammar Nazi's:

Did you not explicitly understand what was being conveyed when the OP writes minutes' vs minutes. Was the sentence unreadable due to the lack of apostrophe, but somehow easier to understand with one? WHY DO YOU CARE? Honestly, I just don't understand it. I know my grammar is mediocre at best, but I get my point across whenever I write something. Who cares if an apostrophe is misplaced.

When people read a post and choose to reply to the grammar and not the question its incredibly annoying. Almost as annoying as the amount of flaming I will likely receive for asking these questions.

Because the OP asked us?

I was more referring to the person who stated if a poll reflected a higher number of people picking minutes over minutes they would stop reading ATOT and the other overly opinionated posts. The OP's question was valid, the amount of mean spirited bickering is not.

 

[alkemyst]

emo?

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: krotchy

Originally posted by: Syringer

Originally posted by: krotchy
Questions for the grammar Nazi's:

Did you not explicitly understand what was being conveyed when the OP writes minutes' vs minutes. Was the sentence unreadable due to the lack of apostrophe, but somehow easier to understand with one? WHY DO YOU CARE? Honestly, I just don't understand it. I know my grammar is mediocre at best, but I get my point across whenever I write something. Who cares if an apostrophe is misplaced.

When people read a post and choose to reply to the grammar and not the question its incredibly annoying. Almost as annoying as the amount of flaming I will likely receive for asking these questions.

Because the OP asked us?

I was more referring to the person who stated if a poll reflected a higher number of people picking minutes over minutes they would stop reading ATOT and the other overly opinionated posts. The OP's question was valid, the amount of mean spirited bickering is not.

Because grammar counts BIG time in terms of respect with written correspondence. Internet posts are one thing; official correspondence be it an E-mail, a memo, a presentation, a white paper, whatever are another.

You can be the biggest brainiac in the world, but if you can't use proper grammar in writing you're pretty worthless. It counts. It counts a lot.