England to remove fire extinguishers because they are a safety hazzard

[Mark R]

Markr

Arent the fire extingushers installed fot the type of fire that could happen? Isnt this part of the fire depts job to check that a water extinguisher is not in a kitchen?

The fire extinguishers that have been removed are the ones down hallways and in lobbies, intended for fighting fires in these areas. Usually, these have been water for reasons of cost and efficacy, given the most likely type of fire in these areas.

The normal fire safety recommendation is that individual apartment occupiers keep their own personal equipment to hand. Most domestic extinguishers are of the powder type, which are suitable for most domestic fires.

Generally, if a fire is too big to be easily controlled by a domestic extinguisher, it's doubtful whether people should be trying to fight it themselves. The time would be better spent calling for proper help, and evacuating people from danger.

Remember that these are apartments, and not regular houses. The fire code for apartments is very strict. It's not just the apartment shell that must be fire resistant - the internal walls and doors must also be fire resistant - with every door and every wall, offering a minimum of 30 minutes fire resistance. The idea being that if a fire does break out in a kitchen, you simply evacuate the kitchen, close the door and call the fire brigade. You should have a minimum of 30 minutes before the fire can extend into the rest of the apartment, whereupon, it's spread will be further contained by the next door.

 

[OutHouse]

Are you english? The point of having a fire extinguisher is to try to put out a small fire before it gets out of control.

 

[FDF12389]

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[Mark R]

Are you english? The point of having a fire extinguisher is to try to put out a small fire before it gets out of control.

My point was that fires are most likely to occur in individual apartments, specifically the kitchen - where fire regulations recommend there to be fire fighting equipment to hand. Or are you trying to tell me that you don't keep a fire extinguisher (or at least a fire blanket) in your kitchen?

If the occupant has exhausted what equipment they have to hand, and are having to run off down the corridors to try to find additional equipment, then arguably this is not a fire that they should be trying to fight themselves, as it has already run out of control.

The problem is that too many people are too confident of dealing with things on their own, and don't know to seek help early enough.

In such a situation, the best thing to do is to ensure an orderly evacuation of the building and get appropriate help as fast as possible. You don't want to delay things by having people attempting to use equipment which is not appropriately suited; fire extinguishers in most communal areas are water, which are unsuitable for kitchen fires.

I don't agree that removing the equipment was the correct thing to do, but there certainly is some logic behind it.

 

[waggy]

if do not know how to use a extinguisher (enough to put out a small fire) you are a fucking idiot and should have someone take care of you.

 

[waggy]

My point was that fires are most likely to occur in individual apartments, specifically the kitchen - where fire regulations recommend there to be fire fighting equipment to hand. Or are you trying to tell me that you don't keep a fire extinguisher (or at least a fire blanket) in your kitchen?

If the occupant has exhausted what equipment they have to hand, and are having to run off down the corridors to try to find additional equipment, then arguably this is not a fire that they should be trying to fight themselves, as it has already run out of control.

The problem is that too many people are too confident of dealing with things on their own, and don't know to seek help early enough.

In such a situation, the best thing to do is to ensure an orderly evacuation of the building and get appropriate help as fast as possible. You don't want to delay things by having people attempting to use equipment which is not appropriately suited; fire extinguishers in most communal areas are water, which are unsuitable for kitchen fires.

I don't agree that removing the equipment was the correct thing to do, but there certainly is some logic behind it.

wow...

i really don't know what to say besides thats just fucking the dumbest thing i have read today.

 

[davmat787]

My point was that fires are most likely to occur in individual apartments, specifically the kitchen - where fire regulations recommend there to be fire fighting equipment to hand. Or are you trying to tell me that you don't keep a fire extinguisher (or at least a fire blanket) in your kitchen?

If the occupant has exhausted what equipment they have to hand, and are having to run off down the corridors to try to find additional equipment, then arguably this is not a fire that they should be trying to fight themselves, as it has already run out of control.

The problem is that too many people are too confident of dealing with things on their own, and don't know to seek help early enough.

In such a situation, the best thing to do is to ensure an orderly evacuation of the building and get appropriate help as fast as possible. You don't want to delay things by having people attempting to use equipment which is not appropriately suited; fire extinguishers in most communal areas are water, which are unsuitable for kitchen fires.

I don't agree that removing the equipment was the correct thing to do, but there certainly is some logic behind it.

British, by chance?

 

[Meghan54]

While removing them is stupid, you might be surprised how many people, having never actually used an extinguisher before, actually get scared by how much it "kicks" when shot at a fire. And then how many people, once they get over how much "kick" the extinguisher has, simply and completely ineffectively wave the extinguisher's output at the top of the flames and empty it without accomplishing a damned thing except keeping them in the area of the fire and emptying an extinguisher in an act of futility.