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End to the Sugar vs. HFCS debate

gururu2

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A friend passed this along to me. Its long, but if you ever had questions about sugar including HFCS, watch carefully.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

Highlights:
Fructose leads to higher uric acid levels promoting gout and high blood pressure.
Fructose intake has a high correlation with fat deposition and fatty liver disease.
Fructose does not satiate hunger.
Fructose is about 20% sweeter than table sugar, but table sugar is about 50% fructose.
Table sugar is converted to glucose and fructose almost instantly in body.
Glucose is non-toxic and the storage form of glucose, glycogen does not harm the body. Fructose does not become glycogen.
Fructose intake correlates to symptoms and diseases similar to alcohol intake.
 
Originally posted by: lyssword
table sugar 50% fructose
HFCS is 55% fructose

So, table sugar is only slightly "healthier"

Actually they are both really bad. Neither is healthy.
 
I used to get a kick from the commercials for this, they claimed it was good for you in moderation, which made me laugh because if it is good for you in moderation youre screwed because almost EVERYTHING is made with this shit, so how does one make sure they are not over doing it?
 
Originally posted by: lyssword
table sugar 50% fructose
HFCS is 55% fructose

So, table sugar is only slightly "healthier"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but table sugar has its fructose in the form of disaccharide so and HCFS doesn't.
Isn't that sort of saying that sodium or chlorine are harmless because they make up 50 percent of salt?

 
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: lyssword
table sugar 50% fructose
HFCS is 55% fructose

So, table sugar is only slightly "healthier"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but table sugar has its fructose in the form of disaccharide so and HCFS doesn't.
Isn't that sort of saying that sodium or chlorine are harmless because they make up 50 percent of salt?

I found this to be a good explanation of the differences between HFCS and sugar.

When you consume regular sugar, sucrose, the first thing your digestive system does is break the chemical bond and separate it into glucose and fructose. So once saccharides are in your body, it makes very little difference whether they came in as table sugar or as HFCS. You can also cook table sugar, and unbind the saccharides that way.
 
Originally posted by: funboy6942
I used to get a kick from the commercials for this, they claimed it was good for you in moderation, which made me laugh because if it is good for you in moderation youre screwed because almost EVERYTHING is made with this shit, so how does one make sure they are not over doing it?

Just eat fish, meats, chicken, fresh fruits and vegetables, and dairy products. Don't eat processed foods, don't slather your food with sauces from a jar, and don't eat junk food (soda, candy, fast food, etc).
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
I like how most things boil down to ' eat less, eat healthier, exercise more, fatties '

Well, it's pretty much true.
Damn, so much for my 64oz Oreo-Coca-Cola smooties. 🙁

As long as you walk 1 block to the store to get it, you're ok.
 
Originally posted by: newb111
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: PottedMeat
I like how most things boil down to ' eat less, eat healthier, exercise more, fatties '

Well, it's pretty much true.
Damn, so much for my 64oz Oreo-Coca-Cola smooties. 🙁

As long as you walk 1 block to the store to get it, you're ok.

Or press the buttons on your TV remote 50 times.
 
[fatretardedpieceoftrashparent]HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP MADE MY KIIIDS FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT IT'S HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUPS FAAAAAULT. IT'S IN EVERYTHINGWAAAARGARBL[/fatretardedpieceoftrashparent]

[normalperson]your kids are fat because you feed them deep friend butter pie for breakfast and have them free-base gravy with dinner every night. Eat less. Exercise more [/normalperson]
 
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: lyssword
table sugar 50% fructose
HFCS is 55% fructose

So, table sugar is only slightly "healthier"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but table sugar has its fructose in the form of disaccharide so and HCFS doesn't.
Isn't that sort of saying that sodium or chlorine are harmless because they make up 50 percent of salt?

Does salt break apart into sodium and chlorine almost instantly once it hits your digestive system?

As a matter of fact, it does - sodium chloride is an ionic solid that dissociates (into Na+ and Cl-) when it is dissolved in a fluid, such as water - one of the main components in your digestive system.

The disaccharide that is table sugar is certainly better though - if only for the glucose component. Many of the digestive system components work by detecting the basics, such as glucose, amino acids, fatty acids. This is especially those that control satiety.
 
Production process of table sugar:

  • 1. Take a sugar beet or sugar cane.
  • 2. Extract the juice.
  • 3. Dry it == table sugar.

Optionally "clean it" and refine it more. End of a process.


Production process of HFCS:


"High-fructose corn syrup is produced by milling corn to produce corn starch, then processing that corn starch to yield corn syrup, which is almost entirely glucose, and then adding enzymes that change the glucose into fructose. The resulting syrup (after enzyme conversion) contains approximately 90% fructose and is HFCS 90. To make the other common forms of HFCS (HFCS 55 and HFCS 42) the HFCS 90 is mixed with 100% glucose corn syrup in the appropriate ratios to form the desired HFCS. The enzyme process that changes the 100% glucose corn syrup into HFCS 90 is as follows:

1. Cornstarch is treated with alpha-amylase to produce shorter chains of sugars called oligosaccharides.
2. Glucoamylase - which is produced by Aspergillus, a fungus, in a fermentation vat ? breaks the sugar chains down even further to yield the simple sugar glucose.
3. Xylose isomerase (aka glucose isomerase) converts glucose to a mixture of about 42% fructose and 50?52% glucose with some other sugars mixed in.

While inexpensive alpha-amylase and glucoamylase are added directly to the slurry and used only once, the more costly glucose-isomerase is packed into columns and the sugar mixture is then passed over it, allowing it to be used repeatedly until it loses its activity. This 42?43% fructose glucose mixture is then subjected to a liquid chromatography step, where the fructose is enriched to about 90%. The 90% fructose is then back-blended with 42% fructose to achieve a 55% fructose final product. Most manufacturers use carbon absorption for impurity removal. Numerous filtration, ion-exchange and evaporation steps are also part of the overall process.

The units of measurement for sugars including HFCS are degrees Brix (symbol °Bx). Brix is a measurement of the mass ratio of dissolved sugars to water in a liquid. A 25 °Bx solution has 25 grams of sugar per 100 grams of solution (25% w/w). Or, to put it another way, there are 25 grams of sugar and 75 grams of water in the 100 grams of solution. The Brix measurement was introduced by Antoine Brix.

When an infrared Brix sensor is used, it measures the vibrational frequency of the high-fructose corn syrup molecules, giving a Brix degrees measurement. This will not be the same measurement as Brix degrees using a density or refractive index measurement, because it will specifically measure dissolved sugar concentration instead of all dissolved solids. When a refractometer is used, it is correct to report the result as "refractometric dried substance" (RDS). One might speak of a liquid as being 20 °Bx RDS. This is a measure of percent by weight of total dried solids and, although not technically the same as Brix degrees determined through an infrared method, renders an accurate measurement of sucrose content, since the majority of dried solids are in fact sucrose. The advent of in-line infrared Brix measurement sensors have made measuring the amount of dissolved HFCS in products economical using a direct measurement. It also gives the possibility of a direct volume/volume measurement."

Now - tell me which one is better for you?

😉
 
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: lyssword
table sugar 50% fructose
HFCS is 55% fructose

So, table sugar is only slightly "healthier"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but table sugar has its fructose in the form of disaccharide so and HCFS doesn't.
Isn't that sort of saying that sodium or chlorine are harmless because they make up 50 percent of salt?

Does salt break apart into sodium and chlorine almost instantly once it hits your digestive system?

As a matter of fact, it does - sodium chloride is an ionic solid that dissociates (into Na+ and Cl-) when it is dissolved in a fluid, such as water - one of the main components in your digestive system.

The dissacharide that is table sugar is certainly better though - if only for the glucose component. Many of the digestive system components work by detecting the basics, such as glucose, amino acids, fatty acids. This is especially those that control satiety.

Yup and we have enzymes, sucrase, that breaks down the glycosidic linkage between the disaccharide.
 
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