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Cerb

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I don't understand why MS doesn't drop the price for an 8.1 copy, I'm sure quite a few XP boxes are capable of running newer Windows.

I have an XP box that can run 7 or 8.1, but have not felt like spending ~ $100 for 8.1, not because I dislike 8.1.
They did have 8 for $40 as an upgrade for XP or newer, for months, which would also net you 8.1. I do dislike 8, and have yet to meet a person off the internet that is in disagreement, but you had the opportunity, when 8 was just released.

MS doesn't drop the price, now, because it doesn't make much sense. The amount of people that get new OSes without ne hardware, that aren't businesses, and thus using different licensing and purchasing setups entirely, is fairly small. It would not likely net them more money, else they would either lower the price, or re-issue the family packs. With 7 v. XP, they had a special situation, in that they bungled Vista's release so badly that people had specifically avoided it, but had PCs capable of running a newer OS, and were in demand for said newer OS. Most everyone on 7 is happy enough on 7.

That said, EOL time would be a good time to have a special on upgrade licenses...
 

B-Riz

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They did have 8 for $40 as an upgrade for XP or newer, for months, which would also net you 8.1. I do dislike 8, and have yet to meet a person off the internet that is in disagreement, but you had the opportunity, when 8 was just released.

MS doesn't drop the price, now, because it doesn't make much sense. The amount of people that get new OSes without ne hardware, that aren't businesses, and thus using different licensing and purchasing setups entirely, is fairly small. It would not likely net them more money, else they would either lower the price, or re-issue the family packs. With 7 v. XP, they had a special situation, in that they bungled Vista's release so badly that people had specifically avoided it, but had PCs capable of running a newer OS, and were in demand for said newer OS. Most everyone on 7 is happy enough on 7.

That said, EOL time would be a good time to have a special on upgrade licenses...

Overall, I am cheap and feel any MS OS should not cost as much as it does.

Price being a barrier to entry; hence why Linux is nice for a lot of uses, it is free.

If the price is low enough, it is not bothersome.

I remember the 8 promo's, but there was little desire to purchase because the OS was so heavily into touch.

8.1 has diminished that focus on touch, with more improvements coming.

My point being that I'm sure lots of people would rather spend under $100 for 8.1 and then maybe get some memory and an SSD instead of getting a whole new computer, if they knew that the current computer was capable of running 8.1.

Back to, MS could / should lower the price of 8.1 to really push an upgrade from XP.
 

ninaholic37

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I have one dual-booting in windows 98 and Ubuntu.
I wouldn't dream of connecting it to the net in the former mode though! Don't think it even has the drivers to recognise the wifi anyway.
I'm curious, what are the security risks of running Windows 95, 98, 98SE connected to the internet (not using IE)? Does someone have a complete list of all the major vulnerabilities and security threats/holes? Surely a network admin can help answer this. I think this would make one interesting and informative read. :)
 

escrow4

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I'm curious, what are the security risks of running Windows 95, 98, 98SE connected to the internet (not using IE)? Does someone have a complete list of all the major vulnerabilities and security threats/holes? Surely a network admin can help answer this. I think this would make one interesting and informative read. :)

I doubt 95 or 98 even support the modern internet. I suppose Anandtech could do a review, just for the laughs.
 

postmortemIA

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I have VM with 98se. Older version of Firefox works. These OSes are working fine online in VM, but due to non existent market share they are hardly target of any hacking effort.
 
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nemesismk2

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I have just updated my windows 7 and windows xp. windows 7 had 12 important updates and 2 optional. windows xp had 8 high priority updates but no optional updates. Only 2 months to go with windows xp still being in support so it makes sense that they microsoft are trying to wind things down with windows xp.
 

postmortemIA

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I have just updated my windows 7 and windows xp. windows 7 had 12 important updates and 2 optional. windows xp had 8 high priority updates but no optional updates. Only 2 months to go with windows xp still being in support so it makes sense that they microsoft are trying to wind things down with windows xp.
XP is on the extended support at this point, while Windows 7 is still on mainstream. Meaning XP gets only critical fixes.
 

Morbus

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I have just updated my windows 7 and windows xp. windows 7 had 12 important updates and 2 optional. windows xp had 8 high priority updates but no optional updates. Only 2 months to go with windows xp still being in support so it makes sense that they microsoft are trying to wind things down with windows xp.

It's not about unpatched KNOWN vulnerabilities. It's about all those vulnerabilities that nobody knows about except for a few hacker groups, and they'll only exploit them after April 8th.

And believe me, if I was a blackhat and I was sitting on a zero day exploit, waiting for April 8th, I would bet setting myself up for a malware race right after the last windows update came out, because, believe me, the first cats will be the ones that catch the most birds. Cats, in this case, being the hackers.
 

nemesismk2

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It's not about unpatched KNOWN vulnerabilities. It's about all those vulnerabilities that nobody knows about except for a few hacker groups, and they'll only exploit them after April 8th.

And believe me, if I was a blackhat and I was sitting on a zero day exploit, waiting for April 8th, I would bet setting myself up for a malware race right after the last windows update came out, because, believe me, the first cats will be the ones that catch the most birds. Cats, in this case, being the hackers.

Yeah i know all about hackers and their different colour hats. lol ;)
 
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coolpurplefan

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It's not about unpatched KNOWN vulnerabilities. It's about all those vulnerabilities that nobody knows about except for a few hacker groups, and they'll only exploit them after April 8th.

Does anyone here play Unreal Tournament 3, Battlefield 2 or 3 without being connected to the Internet?
 

ascalice

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Simple, just dont use wifi and XP will survive. I still use XP sometimes to play the old games Microsoft used to include.