Encounter with blue collar people.

[Skunkwourk]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
I'm mildly disappointed in all the people that read this thread and agreed with me, but didn't bother to say anything out of feat of getting flamed, but overall I don't blame you. Most of the people in this thread are simply throwing feces at something they don't have the objective self analysis to comprehend.

Im not afraid of getting flamed, but I just didn't agree with your point about elitism. If you want to talk about poverty,education, and blue collar work thats fine, I agree there is some correlation between the two, but for me it stops there. Im no better than the mechanic who fixes my car, even if he makes an ignorant statement, because I NEED him to fix it...

 

[suse920]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: Zanix

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Ban JLGatsby. He has said in numerous other threads that his "persona" is merely a creation that he uses for trolling these forums. Here is, yet again, another example.

Trolls in P&N, Video, Hot Deals, etc all get banned when it is found out they are only here for one reason. Please do the same for this moronic asshat as well.

JLGatsby for BAN!

X2

+1

+1

this guy is ultra troll

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: OrByte
But you are missing the point. You only THINK you are better then everyone else. That is why everyone hates you and is mocking you

You should be asking yourself, "why does everyone hate me and mock me?"

On this forum? I'll tell you why I'm mocked, because I say things that most people don't have the courage to say or accept, such as my OP.

In real life? I'm the sort who would walk away from a fight, even if I knew 100% I would win (even when I was in high school), or would never get turned on by porn because it's depressing to watching someone lower themself to that.

And on this forum, I so sort of "come off" as a jackarse to someone who doesn't bother to fully consider my statement.

You're so full of yourself. Let me guess, you give yourself pats on the back and blow kisses to yourself in the mirror, right?

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
i have a white collar uncle. he is the biggest bastard ever. lazy as ******, orders others around because he feels he is superior, does nothing around his house wife does everything etc.

Your really need to look up the definition of "exception." I've said a million times in this thread that I too have seen bad white collar and good blue collar people. I'm ONLY speaking of the correlations I've seen.

 

[Excelsior]

Descartes has won this thread.

 

[giantpinkbunnyhead]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
I'm mildly disappointed in all the people that read this thread and agreed with me, but didn't bother to say anything out of feat of getting flamed, but overall I don't blame you. Most of the people in this thread are simply throwing feces at something they don't have the objective self analysis to comprehend.

Hell, I'll agree with ya. I for one am sick of all this P.C. crap where anyone who thinks any one group of people is different from any other group of people is automatically and irrefutably racist/ignorant/insensitive/whatever. PLEASE! THe only thing going on here is that the few who are vocal about what they notice aren't much different from half the rest of us. I'm willing to bet that most of you in this thread throwing crap at JLG have yourselves had racist or elitist thoughts. I even wager some of you still do but, in an effort to avoid ridicule, y'all bow in to the PC nazis and put up the loudest counterargument you can. Talk about elitism... there's plenty in this thread coming from people besides the one that seems to be picked on just because it seems to be fashionable here. WOuld you all have jumped on me like this if I had posted the exact same words as in the OP? No! Granted I'm new here but goddamn... this thread is a disgrace and it's hardly JLG's fault exclusively.

Groups of people ARE different! Deal with it already. Just because we don't want to hurt someone's feelings, society's been conditioned to deny this in the name of being polite. There are correlations all over the place! Then someone notices and all the rest of you get on your high horses and cast stones while simultaneously showing that you can be just as bad.

If someone sees 10 robberies and notes that 4 of them are committed by Blargians, and also notices that only 10% of the population is Blarg... seriously, what is the obvious conclusion? Of course it doesn't represent the group as a whole but can you blame one for making the inference based on ones own observations? Is this person a terrible person because this is what he saw and said as much? Would he be better to pretend there is no differential and that everything is hunky dory?

I'm done with this pathetic thread.

/rant.

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: suse920

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: Zanix

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Ban JLGatsby. He has said in numerous other threads that his "persona" is merely a creation that he uses for trolling these forums. Here is, yet again, another example.

Trolls in P&N, Video, Hot Deals, etc all get banned when it is found out they are only here for one reason. Please do the same for this moronic asshat as well.

JLGatsby for BAN!

X2

+1

+1

this guy is ultra troll

I nominate JLGatsby for Troll of the Year!

 

[Reckoner]

Personally, I prefer dealing with "blue collar" people in general. I respect the kind've hard work they put in to make a living. Not to mention, I've encountered a LOT of white collar asshats, like the OP, who think they are god's gift to the earth. Get the fvck over yourself you clown.

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

I'm pretty sure someone of higher pedigree has said something similar...

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Eghck
Im not afraid of getting flamed, but I just didn't agree with your point about elitism. If you want to talk about poverty,education, and blue collar work thats fine, I agree there is some correlation between the two, but for me it stops there. Im no better than the mechanic who fixes my car, even if he makes an ignorant statement, because I NEED him to fix it...

I'd like to hear your response to this question.

If someone makes a statement like the mechanic in my OP did, about wanting to rape a hostage, would you consider yourself morally superior to this person?

 

[suse920]

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Descartes has won this thread.

Aye

 

[Mermaidman]

Socioeconomic class has little to do with it. It's a function of
Lack of liberal education
Poor upbringing
Lack of personal values
Insecurity

And . . . George Bush of course 😛

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Eghck
Im not afraid of getting flamed, but I just didn't agree with your point about elitism. If you want to talk about poverty,education, and blue collar work thats fine, I agree there is some correlation between the two, but for me it stops there. Im no better than the mechanic who fixes my car, even if he makes an ignorant statement, because I NEED him to fix it...

I'd like to hear your response to this question.

If someone makes a statement like the mechanic in my OP did, about wanting to rape a hostage, would you consider yourself morally superior to this person?

No, but I can certainly declare that you, JLGatsby, are of the highest moral fiber... you stand as a fine example of the pinnacle of human potential.

JLGatsby, FTW!

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: Eghck
Im not afraid of getting flamed, but I just didn't agree with your point about elitism. If you want to talk about poverty,education, and blue collar work thats fine, I agree there is some correlation between the two, but for me it stops there. Im no better than the mechanic who fixes my car, even if he makes an ignorant statement, because I NEED him to fix it...

I'd like to hear your response to this question.

If someone makes a statement like the mechanic in my OP did, about wanting to rape a hostage, would you consider yourself morally superior to this person?

You need an education in logic.

No one is disagreeing with the fact that the comments made by this man were in poor taste, etc. What everyone is disagreeing with is the fact that you take this experience and do three things:

1) You place this man in a social class
2) You conclude that the man in this social class is ill-received
3) EVERYONE in this social class is also ill-received

Your logic is falllacious, and your sample is insufficient. You'll argue that you know everyone, rich and poor, etc. until you've exhausted everyone in this thread, but the manner in which you carry yourself tells everyone else otherwise.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: OrByte
But you are missing the point. You only THINK you are better then everyone else. That is why everyone hates you and is mocking you

You should be asking yourself, "why does everyone hate me and mock me?"

On this forum? I'll tell you why I'm mocked, because I say things that most people don't have the courage to say or accept, such as my OP.

In real life? I'm the sort who would walk away from a fight, even if I knew 100% I would win (even when I was in high school), or would never get turned on by porn because it's depressing to watching someone lower themself to that.

And on this forum, I so sort of "come off" as a jackarse to someone who doesn't bother to fully consider my statement.

I don't think you are being true to yourself. You would walk away from a fight because you don't want to feel pain, because you are scared. You make these grandoise statements here in an attempt to feel better about yourself because there is a big black void on your horizon. It is self hate. You loath yourself. It is not courage you have, you are subconsiously seeking help in the form of attention (positive or negative, mostly negative up to this point.)

You come here to make your statements to avoid the statements that everyone in your real life mean to say to you but never do, that you are forgetable, you make no contribution to anything. You have nothing but your grand statements and your, "real life experiances" which basically amount to sh!t to the rest of us.

enjoy your existence. Let us know when you want to really ask yourself the hard questions. Some of us here might still be willing to help you.

 

[imported_electron]

Generalize much dummy?