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Encounter with blue collar people.

JLGatsby

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I went to the car repair shop today to get my brakes done.

While I was sitting on the designated waiting area waiting for my vehicle to be finished, CNN was on the television and they were talking about the hostage in Iraq (Jill Carroll). There were two guys behind the counter, one was the store manager (probably in his 50s), and one was a younger mechanic (probably about 30). The mechanic was a disgusting looking individual. Work shirt half unbuttoned, unlit cigarette hanging from his bottom lip, in need of a shave.

Well anyways, he was watching TV (CNN) about the hostage and said to the store manager (who was dressed up much better, much cleaner looking guy) that she (Carroll the Hostage) was probably "doing favors" for the terrorists (the people who kidnapped her), he then laughed slightly and said it "wouldn't be so bad to be a terrorist." The store manager just sort of brushed it off, but obviously did not care he said it.

This sort of comment or line of thinking is disgusting and perverse and this is not the first time I have heard something like this from the mouth of a blue collar person.

I'd also like to note that in my diverse experiences with many different types of people, I've never heard such a thing from a upper middle class or white collar person, although I'm not saying it doesn't happen.

I'd like to think that I am wrong about blue collar people, that the majority of them indeed do have morals and standards, but my many juvenile experiences such as this are hard to forget. Maybe I'm right, or maybe I've just had bad luck with working class people. But considering the I've seen the same sort of behavior over and over again as long as I can remember, and with more people than I can count, it is hard to believe I am wrong.

Far be it from me to paint an entire group of people the same color, as there are many people in the lower classes that are of high moral standard, but I find it impossible to respect the majority of the lower classes of people when I consistently experience things like this with the same sort of people, and this further enforces my belief that poverty is the product of behavior like this, not visa versa, and that the end problem is the person, not the economic situation.

For this reason, I do not believe elitism is bad if it's based on honest observation and real life experiences.


Nice guy. NOT! You're being an A-hole.

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Don't kid yourself, there are many white-collar, highly educated idiots out there too. They're just not as easily accessable to the public because they hide in cubicles in office buildings.
 
Originally posted by: Rudee
Don't kid yourself, there are many white-collar, highly educated idiots out there too. They're just not as easily accessable to the public because they hide in cubicles in office buildings.

Oh there are idiots of all sorts, I'm only saying that in my experiences, the vast majority of the idoits I've encounted happened to be low on the economic scale.

My theory is that poverty is the product of these sort of behaviors, which is why so many poor people act to childishly.

Think about to back when you were in school, think of the kid who always got in trouble, who always picked on other kids, who cursed and was cruel to other students. What do you think kids like that grow up to be? Doctors? Professors? I hardly think so.
 
Originally posted by: Rudee
Don't kid yourself, there are many white-collar, highly educated idiots out there too. They're just not as easily accessable to the public because they hide in cubicles in office buildings.

 
I work with white collar people day in and day out that come up with more objectionable drivel on a daily basis, however they seem more perceptive to situations which are 'safe' for this sort of thing. I could just call you an asshole like everybody else undoubtable will, but really I pity because yours is a sad ethos. Anyone with even a passing knowledge of history can shine light on the upper castes of society's shortcomings when it comes to morality.
 
Originally posted by: xospec1alk
People like you probably treat waitresses like sh!t as well.

Waitresses? As in women?

I will say this, males typically, atleast in my experiences are far more of idiots than females.

A typical female would never think or say something that crude or distasteful, no matter what they did for a living.

I am very very nice to all women, no matter their economic level, because I typically only see this behavior in men.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Rudee
Don't kid yourself, there are many white-collar, highly educated idiots out there too. They're just not as easily accessable to the public because they hide in cubicles in office buildings.

Oh there are idiots of all sorts, I'm only saying that in my experiences, the vast majority of the idoits I've encounted happened to be low on the economic scale.

My theory is that povert is the product of these sort of behaviors, which is why so many poor people act to childishly.

Think about to back when you were in school, think of the kid who always got in trouble, who always picked on other kids, who cursed and was cruel to other students. What do you think kids like that grow up to be? Doctors? Professors? I hardly think so.

In that case....blue collar =/= poor.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Rudee
Don't kid yourself, there are many white-collar, highly educated idiots out there too. They're just not as easily accessable to the public because they hide in cubicles in office buildings.

Oh there are idiots of all sorts, I'm only saying that in my experiences, the vast majority of the idoits I've encounted happened to be low on the economic scale.

My theory is that povert is the product of these sort of behaviors, which is why so many poor people act to childishly.

Think about to back when you were in school, think of the kid who always got in trouble, who always picked on other kids, who cursed and was cruel to other students. What do you think kids like that grow up to be? Doctors? Professors? I hardly think so.
I know doctors and professors who act like this. You're the type of person who has a bad experience or two with a black person and probably wishes you could join the KKK.

 
Wait, so because a guy said it wouldn't be too bad to get head every day, you take offense to his morals? Bro, when I'm in town visiting my parents, and I play golf with my dad and his lawyers/business associates etc at a COUNTRY CLUB they say wayyyy more graphic things than that, hit on the cart girl hard core etc. It's called being a guy. It wasn't like you were in a restaurant with a dress code, you were in an auto garage. Also, are you saying that you DON'T think about sex? Because that's just weird.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Rudee
Don't kid yourself, there are many white-collar, highly educated idiots out there too. They're just not as easily accessable to the public because they hide in cubicles in office buildings.

Oh there are idiots of all sorts, I'm only saying that in my experiences, the vast majority of the idoits I've encounted happened to be low on the economic scale.

My theory is that poverty is the product of these sort of behaviors, which is why so many poor people act to childishly.

Think about to back when you were in school, think of the kid who always got in trouble, who always picked on other kids, who cursed and was cruel to other students. What do you think kids like that grow up to be? Doctors? Professors? I hardly think so.

Are all blue collar workers like this? Obviously not, so don't categorize them. It's not blue collar work that makes people like that... it's just that dumb people are just likely to end up in blue collar work.
 
Originally posted by: Feldenak
In that case....blue collar =/= poor.

Not sure what you mean by "=/=" but I would say, for the most part, that the two words are interchangable, although many blue workers make a good living. The " moral culture" is still similar.
 
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Originally posted by: Feldenak
In that case....blue collar =/= poor.

Not sure what you mean by "=/=" but I would say, for the most part, that the two words are interchangable, although many blue workers make a good living. The " moral culture" is still similar.

Not equal.

And, I wouldn't call you elitist per se....I think a$shole suits you much better.

Edit: In case you were wondering, I come from a blue collar background.
 
Originally posted by: Looney
It's not blue collar work that makes people like that... it's just that dumb people are just likely to end up in blue collar work.

I don't know if I'm mistaken or not, but I believe that is exactly what I've said about 3 times in this thread so far.

Poverty is the product of juvenile behavior, not visa versa.

One only needs to look at rappers and many actors and how juvenile they act, even with all their money. They are a perfect experiment in "giving people who would otherwise be poor a lot of money," and observing their behavior.
 
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