Cocks are cocks........BUT You relaying of RossMan like that .......... you're a pussy!
It would be nice if you had your own argument but you have to feed off the crap from Rossman!
JulesMaximus
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That makes no sense whatsoever. Congrats on the least coherent post of the day.
BTW-I stated my argument in an earlier post but I guess you were too busy thinking up the insult "duck cock" to read it.
SacrosanctFiend
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Where are the mods? I got banned for a hell of a lot less than what CorCentral is doing. Though, I am enjoying the verbal thrashing he's getting.
KMFJD
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Originally posted by: loki8481
being gay, I do kind of identify with what you're saying, though it sounds like you're taking a long ride on the whammbulance
it seems as if there's a presumption as if people with kids time is more valuable with the childless. it's always annoyed me, as if just because it's illegal for me to adopt a kid, I somehow don't find it important to spend time with my own make-shift family.
I'm just glad it doesn't really come into effect in my current job, since the vast majority of my company is made up of single, child-free guys.
It's legal for gay couples to adopt in Alberta......
Unfortunately, you are right and most jobs only offer those two choices. I faced that problem in the past. To make a long story short, I refused to conform and eventually found the wonderful job I have now. Their solution is to hire enough people to the point where it isn't a burden on the single folks when the employees with kids take those extra hours off. Sure, it's extra labor cost, but those in power here feel that life is simply better that way for everyone and they were willing to take the cut. The world would be a better place if that were the norm, but greed overcomes all....again.
Geekbabe
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I'm fortunate that I work in a professional setting where my skillset is valued.I'm know for always being early to work and being willing to flex when needed so time off is usually not an issue.I do try whenever possible to schedule my appointments for my days off or to swap days with another willing co-worker. I also avoid making/taking personal calls at work unless it's an emergency.
As far as smoking goes,I smoke and have timed my breaks to the exact minute, I take far less break time than my non-smoking peers.The people who complain the loudest about smoke breaks are usually the folks who sit there with their daily planners sprawled out,on the phone for at least an hour per day handling personal matters,these same folks also take their full lunch hour.
alkemyst
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Mods toss coins on things. You win some you lose some.
I think the point of this thread isn't that parents sometimes need time off for their kids...we all need time off for things.
The problem is when they use up their vacation and sick/personal days and keep using the kids for more.
Like I said previously I know at least a half dozen cases that 'parent' was not doing anything with their kid that day. They just wanted a day off.
JulesMaximus
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See, I'm known for honoring the commitments I make, building trust with my co-workers and taking the responsibility to make sure I do the best that I can to help the company meet its goals. Nobody is watching to see when I arrive or when I leave and I will come in on weekends or get up early and log in from home (in fact I did come in for a couple hours over Labor Day weekend so that our plant in Mexicali would be able to do transactions on Monday-a holiday they do not recognize).
Nobody gives a crap if I take or make a few personal calls during the day and I usually make one or two each day.
Some days I take an hour lunch or longer. Most days I don't. Again, nobody is micromanaging me enough to notice and quite frankly I prefer it that way.
I sincerely doubt the OP's situation is the norm. Most people get a certain amount of PTO regardless of whether they have kids or not.
In most of the situations where moms or dads DO manage to take more time off, they're also far less likely to get real high on the corporate ladder, which is the way it should be. You want to have kids, fine, don't expect to be able to keep up with someone who made their career a priority instead. Whiny feminists, looking in your direction.
In the remaining very, very rare scenario where a guy or girl takes extra time off for their kid and still manages to climb the ladder faster, well... life ain't always fair.
In most of the situations where moms or dads DO manage to take more time off, they're also far less likely to get real high on the corporate ladder, which is the way it should be. You want to have kids, fine, don't expect to be able to keep up with someone who made their career a priority instead. Whiny feminists, looking in your direction.
In the remaining very, very rare scenario where a guy or girl takes extra time off for their kid and still manages to climb the ladder faster, well... life ain't always fair.
Government jobs ftw!
One of the few scenarios where you can have the best of both worlds and it's usually fair and square.
Actually out of the 20 some odd jobs I've had in my life only one has offered any form of personal time off. In fact, only 3 have offered any kind of sick time, comp time, pto, or any other form of paid time off. While it's pretty common in the corporate business world, it's exceptionally rare outside that.
DrPizza
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Are you kidding? About the only places I've seen that don't have paid time off are minimum wage jobs at McDonalds. Heck, I worked at a pizza shop part time, and even there I received 2 paid weeks off each year.
StageLeft
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This is reality everywhere. It may not be "fair", but trust me as a single guy you have way more personal/free time than a person with kids, even if your company is not treating you fairly. When you have kids, you'll also get a break beacuse that's how it is, in part because people without kids are not ASKING for as much time. If my kids are sick and I have to go home, this is time a single or unchilded person would not have asked for.
Oh, off the top of my head:
Courtesy Clerk, Safeway (only checkers or up got anything other than vacation, and that only after a year)
Network Technician, Stream Intl (again, only vacation, and that only after a year)
Various security jobs, including manager level positions (most offered vacation time eventually, but it was so little after so long they needn't have bothered)
Personal trainer (new company, basically no employee benefits in place)
Technical Support, Nextel (vacation after a year only, managers and supervisors earned 1 sick day a month)
House Manager, Columbia Theatre for the Performing Arts (absolutely nothing)
Stage Manager, Pepper Theatre (absolutely nothing)
A bunch of independent or self-employed positions, so obviously those give nothing. Same with my trade and/or labor positions.
Now, I didn't count the Navy initially...but I did earn days of leave like everyone else (2.5 a month)...which I suppose is a combination of vacation/sick/personal...sort of.
I should also point out that I differentiate between 'vacation' and 'paid time off'. I realize that vacation is a form of paid time off, but I generally figure most places offer full time employees some vacation eventually...though certainly not all. In my experiences the ones that gave vacations usually offered 1 week after you'd been there a year, then maybe 2 weeks after 3 or 5 years, etc. To me, paid time off is sick time, comp time, etc.
Another thing is the huge swing towards part time employees again. Part time = little to no benefits at many companies. I've run into that at least a dozen different places. "Oh we're sorry, but you're only scheduled for 31 hours a month, so you don't qualify for benefits." Or my personal fav, "Yes you work 38-40 hours a week but we currently have no full time positions available so you're still a part-timer." I currently earn a whopping 2 hours of sick/personal time a month, and 20 hours of vacation a year for working 40 hours a week thanks to this little gem. I don't really mind since I can set my own hours and it's just until school is done, but the rest of the people who work there and need it are getting shafted. This kind of thing is SUPER common and becoming more so.
ooops, meant this as a reply to the next post, not yours...sorry for the mixup.
Thanks for making your kids our responsibilities. Also when we're stuck covering for you cause your kid has the sniffles.
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