Eminem Hits Apple with 'Lose Yourself' Lawsuit...

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.

Legally, it's his song. Your argument could be used to say that any person or business could use any artists's songs or works to sell their product, because it'd be "doing the artist a favor". The artist produced the material, and that material belongs to the artist... he has to give permission for others to use it, and if others use it without permission, they're subject to heavy penalties.

Wasn't there a Best Buy case recently settled... they used images from "The Sorpanos" in one of their ads without permission, the actors sued, and won a few million each.

The record companies own eminem and his "song." Apple does not make money off of iTunes so, as I said, I'm sure the RIAA will back Apple.

Exactly. Apple isn't stupid enough to try this without permission from someone(they have 20+ years of marketing experience to back this up); someone gave them permission that didn't have the right to, or Eminem is simply mad because his label is giving his stuff out.

The label cant do that. The song writer has to be contacted, and they have to have a written contract signed BY the songwriter. If they dont have a contract with the songwriter, they(Apple) are in the wrong. Eminem is the songwriter. I think he would know if he signed a contract for them to use his personally copyrighted material.

Even if that's the case, then it simply becomes an issue of false-representation on the part of the entity that gave permission. The only way Apple could be found liable is if they explicitly knew that they didn't have permission, but went ahead anyhow.

Actually no. If they dont have his signature on a contract, they ARE liable. A court would laugh Apples lawyers out of the room if they went in there and said "we got premission from so and so(anyone but the songwriter himself). Its a laughable defense. You have to have the expressed premission of the copyright owner.

We'll see if this thing even gets to court. And if it does get to court, we'll see what kind of "court" it is.

You're right it wont get to court. Cases like these are typically settled privately. I bet Apple gives $5million to him and $5million to some Detriot charity, or something similar.

I guess you actually think the RIAA is going to get him to drop this case. I dont see him doing what the RIAA tells him to do.

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.

Legally, it's his song. Your argument could be used to say that any person or business could use any artists's songs or works to sell their product, because it'd be "doing the artist a favor". The artist produced the material, and that material belongs to the artist... he has to give permission for others to use it, and if others use it without permission, they're subject to heavy penalties.

Wasn't there a Best Buy case recently settled... they used images from "The Sorpanos" in one of their ads without permission, the actors sued, and won a few million each.

The record companies own eminem and his "song." Apple does not make money off of iTunes so, as I said, I'm sure the RIAA will back Apple.

It doesn't matter whether they make money off of iTunes or not. They're not providing this service for free out of their own good will or anything. You seriously can't be this naive...

Sounds like he is. Homeboy need to pick up a book on copyright law sometime. 😛

Wasn't "homeboy" that guy you assaulted/assaulted you in your home? If so, please to not associate me with that name.

My bad, as his IQ and skills of logic were significantly higher.

Yes, all that break-dancing, stealing money, assaulting people, and not going to college really smartens a guy up. good thing I'm not going to no punk ass college!

 

[imported_Tomato]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.

Legally, it's his song. Your argument could be used to say that any person or business could use any artists's songs or works to sell their product, because it'd be "doing the artist a favor". The artist produced the material, and that material belongs to the artist... he has to give permission for others to use it, and if others use it without permission, they're subject to heavy penalties.

Wasn't there a Best Buy case recently settled... they used images from "The Sorpanos" in one of their ads without permission, the actors sued, and won a few million each.

The record companies own eminem and his "song." Apple does not make money off of iTunes so, as I said, I'm sure the RIAA will back Apple.

It doesn't matter whether they make money off of iTunes or not. They're not providing this service for free out of their own good will or anything. You seriously can't be this naive...

Sounds like he is. Homeboy need to pick up a book on copyright law sometime. 😛

Wasn't "homeboy" that guy you assaulted/assaulted you in your home? If so, please to not associate me with that name.

My bad, as his IQ and skills of logic were significantly higher.

Yes, all that break-dancing, stealing money, assaulting people, and not going to college really smartens a guy up. good thing I'm not going to no punk ass college!

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

😛😉

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.

Legally, it's his song. Your argument could be used to say that any person or business could use any artists's songs or works to sell their product, because it'd be "doing the artist a favor". The artist produced the material, and that material belongs to the artist... he has to give permission for others to use it, and if others use it without permission, they're subject to heavy penalties.

Wasn't there a Best Buy case recently settled... they used images from "The Sorpanos" in one of their ads without permission, the actors sued, and won a few million each.

The record companies own eminem and his "song." Apple does not make money off of iTunes so, as I said, I'm sure the RIAA will back Apple.

It doesn't matter whether they make money off of iTunes or not. They're not providing this service for free out of their own good will or anything. You seriously can't be this naive...

Sounds like he is. Homeboy need to pick up a book on copyright law sometime. 😛

Wasn't "homeboy" that guy you assaulted/assaulted you in your home? If so, please to not associate me with that name.

My bad, as his IQ and skills of logic were significantly higher.

Yes, all that break-dancing, stealing money, assaulting people, and not going to college really smartens a guy up. good thing I'm not going to no punk ass college!

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

😛😉

Was that the sound of air blasting over your freakishly enlarged ego or air blowing through where your brain should be only to find itself trapped in a doorless nexus of mindless thoughts and delusions of monomania?

 

[imported_Tomato]

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.

Legally, it's his song. Your argument could be used to say that any person or business could use any artists's songs or works to sell their product, because it'd be "doing the artist a favor". The artist produced the material, and that material belongs to the artist... he has to give permission for others to use it, and if others use it without permission, they're subject to heavy penalties.

Wasn't there a Best Buy case recently settled... they used images from "The Sorpanos" in one of their ads without permission, the actors sued, and won a few million each.

The record companies own eminem and his "song." Apple does not make money off of iTunes so, as I said, I'm sure the RIAA will back Apple.

It doesn't matter whether they make money off of iTunes or not. They're not providing this service for free out of their own good will or anything. You seriously can't be this naive...

Sounds like he is. Homeboy need to pick up a book on copyright law sometime. 😛

Wasn't "homeboy" that guy you assaulted/assaulted you in your home? If so, please to not associate me with that name.

My bad, as his IQ and skills of logic were significantly higher.

Yes, all that break-dancing, stealing money, assaulting people, and not going to college really smartens a guy up. good thing I'm not going to no punk ass college!

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

😛😉

Was that the sound of air blasting over your freakishly enlarged ego or air blowing through where your brain should be only to find itself trapped in a doorless nexus of mindless thoughts and delusions of monomania?

I'd come up with a witty reply, but a) you aren't worth the effort, and b) I've gotta run to catch "Made In America"... instead of exchanging senseless insults with a stranger you don't know but feel the need to berate at every opportunity, why don't you go outside for a breath of fresh air? 😉

Have a great night, all...

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.

Legally, it's his song. Your argument could be used to say that any person or business could use any artists's songs or works to sell their product, because it'd be "doing the artist a favor". The artist produced the material, and that material belongs to the artist... he has to give permission for others to use it, and if others use it without permission, they're subject to heavy penalties.

Wasn't there a Best Buy case recently settled... they used images from "The Sorpanos" in one of their ads without permission, the actors sued, and won a few million each.

The record companies own eminem and his "song." Apple does not make money off of iTunes so, as I said, I'm sure the RIAA will back Apple.

It doesn't matter whether they make money off of iTunes or not. They're not providing this service for free out of their own good will or anything. You seriously can't be this naive...

Sounds like he is. Homeboy need to pick up a book on copyright law sometime. 😛

Wasn't "homeboy" that guy you assaulted/assaulted you in your home? If so, please to not associate me with that name.

My bad, as his IQ and skills of logic were significantly higher.

Yes, all that break-dancing, stealing money, assaulting people, and not going to college really smartens a guy up. good thing I'm not going to no punk ass college!

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

😛😉

Was that the sound of air blasting over your freakishly enlarged ego or air blowing through where your brain should be only to find itself trapped in a doorless nexus of mindless thoughts and delusions of monomania?

I'd come up with a witty reply, but a) you aren't worth the effort, and b) I've gotta run to catch "Made In America"... instead of exchanging senseless insults with a stranger you don't know but feel the need to berate at every opportunity, why don't you go outside for a breath of fresh air? 😉

Have a great night, all...

Ah yes, the old "start with the attacks, but act like the victim when you can't take the heat." I've seen it many times before on the forums.

 

[Skiguy411]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.

Legally, it's his song. Your argument could be used to say that any person or business could use any artists's songs or works to sell their product, because it'd be "doing the artist a favor". The artist produced the material, and that material belongs to the artist... he has to give permission for others to use it, and if others use it without permission, they're subject to heavy penalties.

Wasn't there a Best Buy case recently settled... they used images from "The Sorpanos" in one of their ads without permission, the actors sued, and won a few million each.

The record companies own eminem and his "song." Apple does not make money off of iTunes so, as I said, I'm sure the RIAA will back Apple.

It doesn't matter whether they make money off of iTunes or not. They're not providing this service for free out of their own good will or anything. You seriously can't be this naive...

Sounds like he is. Homeboy need to pick up a book on copyright law sometime. 😛

Wasn't "homeboy" that guy you assaulted/assaulted you in your home? If so, please to not associate me with that name.

My bad, as his IQ and skills of logic were significantly higher.

Yes, all that break-dancing, stealing money, assaulting people, and not going to college really smartens a guy up. good thing I'm not going to no punk ass college!

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

😛😉

Was that the sound of air blasting over your freakishly enlarged ego or air blowing through where your brain should be only to find itself trapped in a doorless nexus of mindless thoughts and delusions of monomania?

I'd come up with a witty reply, but a) you aren't worth the effort, and b) I've gotta run to catch "Made In America"... instead of exchanging senseless insults with a stranger you don't know but feel the need to berate at every opportunity, why don't you go outside for a breath of fresh air? 😉

Have a great night, all...

Ah yes, the old "start with the attacks, but act like the victim when you can't take the heat." I've seen it many times before on the forums.

And the flame war has begun!

/Takes out lawn chair

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: CorporateRecreation

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.

Legally, it's his song. Your argument could be used to say that any person or business could use any artists's songs or works to sell their product, because it'd be "doing the artist a favor". The artist produced the material, and that material belongs to the artist... he has to give permission for others to use it, and if others use it without permission, they're subject to heavy penalties.

Wasn't there a Best Buy case recently settled... they used images from "The Sorpanos" in one of their ads without permission, the actors sued, and won a few million each.

The record companies own eminem and his "song." Apple does not make money off of iTunes so, as I said, I'm sure the RIAA will back Apple.

It doesn't matter whether they make money off of iTunes or not. They're not providing this service for free out of their own good will or anything. You seriously can't be this naive...

Sounds like he is. Homeboy need to pick up a book on copyright law sometime. 😛

Wasn't "homeboy" that guy you assaulted/assaulted you in your home? If so, please to not associate me with that name.

My bad, as his IQ and skills of logic were significantly higher.

Yes, all that break-dancing, stealing money, assaulting people, and not going to college really smartens a guy up. good thing I'm not going to no punk ass college!

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH!

😛😉

Was that the sound of air blasting over your freakishly enlarged ego or air blowing through where your brain should be only to find itself trapped in a doorless nexus of mindless thoughts and delusions of monomania?

I'd come up with a witty reply, but a) you aren't worth the effort, and b) I've gotta run to catch "Made In America"... instead of exchanging senseless insults with a stranger you don't know but feel the need to berate at every opportunity, why don't you go outside for a breath of fresh air? 😉

Have a great night, all...

Why don't you just not come back at all and make everyone here happy?

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.

Legally, it's his song. Your argument could be used to say that any person or business could use any artists's songs or works to sell their product, because it'd be "doing the artist a favor". The artist produced the material, and that material belongs to the artist... he has to give permission for others to use it, and if others use it without permission, they're subject to heavy penalties.

Wasn't there a Best Buy case recently settled... they used images from "The Sorpanos" in one of their ads without permission, the actors sued, and won a few million each.

The record companies own eminem and his "song." Apple does not make money off of iTunes so, as I said, I'm sure the RIAA will back Apple.

uhh .. who ever owns the MASTERs and Publishing of the songs own the 'song'. if Eminem signed a contract giving him full controll of the MASTER then he is responsible for what happens with his music.

I'm almost positive that Afeni Shakur owns the MASTERs for Tupac's music and has the sole rights to publish them as well. Also prolly the reason why Death Row hasn't realeased SUPER TUPAC TOP 10-3579176 hits. Super TUPAC REMIX Album.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever

Ah yes, the old "start with the attacks, but act like the victim when you can't take the heat." I've seen it many times before on the forums.

The ol flame and run, eh?