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Eminem Hits Apple with 'Lose Yourself' Lawsuit...

Originally posted by: Dezign
If they really didn't get his permission, then Apple fvcked up. They should've known better.
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[Captain Obvious in the Sarcasm Department]
THIS JUST IN! BREAKING NEWS! APPLE FVCKS UP!
[/Captain Obvious in the Sarcasm Department]
 
"Defendants have acted intentionally, recklessly, willfully and in bad faith," it adds.
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Yeah bad faith was what they had in mind...
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What did the commercial do - just repeat lyrics or play the song ? Either way they would be wrong if no permission was ever received - and from the sound of: "even if he were interested in endorsing a product, any endorsement deal would require a significant amount of money, possibly in excess of $10 million,"

I kinda doubt they got that permission...
 
how much was used in the commercial? Can't Apple play the Puff Daddy card and just say they "sampled" it?
 
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.
 
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.
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Legally, it's his song. Your argument could be used to say that any person or business could use any artists's songs or works to sell their product, because it'd be "doing the artist a favor". The artist produced the material, and that material belongs to the artist... he has to give permission for others to use it, and if others use it without permission, they're subject to heavy penalties.

Wasn't there a Best Buy case recently settled... they used images from "The Sorpanos" in one of their ads without permission, the actors sued, and won a few million each.
 
Originally posted by: Jzero
how much was used in the commercial? Can't Apple play the Puff Daddy card and just say they "sampled" it?
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P.Diddy pays royalties for every song he samples.
 
Originally posted by: Dezign
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.
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Legally, it's his song. Your argument could be used to say that any person or business could use any artists's songs or works to sell their product, because it'd be "doing the artist a favor". The artist produced the material, and that material belongs to the artist... he has to give permission for others to use it, and if others use it without permission, they're subject to heavy penalties.

Wasn't there a Best Buy case recently settled... they used images from "The Sorpanos" in one of their ads without permission, the actors sued, and won a few million each.
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The record companies own eminem and his "song." Apple does not make money off of iTunes so, as I said, I'm sure the RIAA will back Apple.
 
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.
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What!?!? You've got to be the biggest Mac zealot judging by that statement. Apple did him no favor by playing that song. They ripped off a song with massive popularity for their own use, done deal.
 
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.
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What!?!? You've got to be the biggest Mac zealot judging by that statement. Apple did him no favor by playing that song. They ripped off a song with massive popularity for their own use, done deal.
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If you knew anything about me, you'd know I'm the opposite of a Mac zealot. Apple did him plenty of favor by airing that song because more people will download his music, which means more money for him.
 
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.
Click to expand...

What!?!? You've got to be the biggest Mac zealot judging by that statement. Apple did him no favor by playing that song. They ripped off a song with massive popularity for their own use, done deal.
Click to expand...
If you knew anything about me, you'd know I'm the opposite of a Mac zealot. Apple did him plenty of favor by airing that song because more people will download his music, which means more money for him.
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That song is popular as it is... instead of seeing it as "Apple aired the song and he'll benefit cuz more people will download it", try viewing it via what actually happened... "Lots o' people have already downloaded the song, proving its popularity, and if Apple uses it for its own promotional purposes people will pay attention because they like the song."
 
Originally posted by: Dezign
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.
Click to expand...

What!?!? You've got to be the biggest Mac zealot judging by that statement. Apple did him no favor by playing that song. They ripped off a song with massive popularity for their own use, done deal.
Click to expand...
If you knew anything about me, you'd know I'm the opposite of a Mac zealot. Apple did him plenty of favor by airing that song because more people will download his music, which means more money for him.
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That song is popular as it is... instead of seeing it as "Apple aired the song and he'll benefit cuz more people will download it", try viewing it via what actually happened... "Lots o' people have already downloaded the song, proving its popularity, and if Apple uses it for its own promotional purposes people will pay attention because they like the song."
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Please don't rephrase what I typed so that you can make an easier arguement. I said Eminem will benefit because people will download his music, not necessarily that one song. People will be like, "hey, you can get eminem on iTunes! I will go download his music right now at 99 cents each or $9.99 per album. It's a shame Apple doesn't get any of that money, but oh well... legal music here I come!"
 
Even though I'm not familiar with the rights to use a song in commercials, it seems obvious to me that one would need a permission from the author (the same with a photo, a drawing in a book, etc). I've heard of many cases of authors refusing the use of a song (Johnny Cash is the most recent example, according to another ATOT thread), and others making a living out of it (Moby, who licensed his songs hundreds of times -- 800 I think I heard him saying).

I don't like m&m, nothing against Apple. Whoever Apple hired to make the commercial should have sought permission.
 
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: Dezign
Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Yeah, Apple is doing him a favor by carrying his songs and this is his reaction? What an idiot. I have a feeling that the RIAA will strong-arm eminem to drop the lawsuit.
Click to expand...

Legally, it's his song. Your argument could be used to say that any person or business could use any artists's songs or works to sell their product, because it'd be "doing the artist a favor". The artist produced the material, and that material belongs to the artist... he has to give permission for others to use it, and if others use it without permission, they're subject to heavy penalties.

Wasn't there a Best Buy case recently settled... they used images from "The Sorpanos" in one of their ads without permission, the actors sued, and won a few million each.
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The record companies own eminem and his "song." Apple does not make money off of iTunes so, as I said, I'm sure the RIAA will back Apple.
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Exactly. Apple isn't stupid enough to try this without permission from someone(they have 20+ years of marketing experience to back this up); someone gave them permission that didn't have the right to, or Eminem is simply mad because his label is giving his stuff out.
 
From what I remember hearing, Eminem (and his management team) is pretty deadset against endorsing just about anything. Probably one of the reasons he's so pissed about this particular incident.
 
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