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Babbles

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I think it is a pretty creative piece and I agree with practically all of it. Though, as others pointed out, Rooney did not write that nor would he ever write something along those lines. Sometimes he is witty, but he is as liberal as hell. He is to the far left and then over a bit more, no way he would say most of those things in that article.

He said a few choice words a few weeks back just totally bashing our troops overseas. He is not as great an American as many make him out to be.
 

sygyzy

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What a coward the author must be to fake the authorship in order to attract attention. Probably the same kind of person that falls in love with such writing. Sad sad world.
 

Triumph

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That stuff is a bit too strong-worded for even Andy Rooney. He's said some things that have pissed some people off, but he usually sticks to stuff that everybody hates, like junk mail and telemarketers.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Babbles
I think it is a pretty creative piece and I agree with practically all of it. Though, as others pointed out, Rooney did not write that nor would he ever write something along those lines. Sometimes he is witty, but he is as liberal as hell. He is to the far left and then over a bit more, no way he would say most of those things in that article.

He said a few choice words a few weeks back just totally bashing our troops overseas. He is not as great an American as many make him out to be.

Link?
 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Damaging? What's damaging about that column?? If Andy Rooney actually said that, I would vote him for President. But if Rooney didn't say it and says that he invariably disagrees with the "racist" views ( :roll: ) in the text, oh well. That article describes my views to a T.

It's somewhat saddening that the length and breadth of your views are in an internet forward, written by an idiot using someone elses signature.

It's sad that you jump to the conclusion that I don't have an opinion on anything that isn't listed in that column. Go fvcking troll somewhere else.

It is more sad you off handedly use a phrase you don't know the meaning of.

Poor Nik. Everybody picks on him, luckily he has that FIERY anger to ract with. Scares the heck out of us. Really.

Wow, you're a very intelligent person. Read anything good from the New York Times lately? Perhaps a nice article by Jason Blair?
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: Babbles
I think it is a pretty creative piece and I agree with practically all of it. Though, as others pointed out, Rooney did not write that nor would he ever write something along those lines. Sometimes he is witty, but he is as liberal as hell. He is to the far left and then over a bit more, no way he would say most of those things in that article.

He said a few choice words a few weeks back just totally bashing our troops overseas. He is not as great an American as many make him out to be.

How does that make him any less of an American? Wouldn't it make him MORE American, being that he feels free to exercise his right to free speech? Or is he supposed to cheer whatever the government decides?
 

Klixxer

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Andy Rooney will say anything his script writers tell him to say, to think otherwise is to be daft.

That said, he has bashed pretty much everyone and everything, twice.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: Babbles
I think it is a pretty creative piece and I agree with practically all of it. Though, as others pointed out, Rooney did not write that nor would he ever write something along those lines. Sometimes he is witty, but he is as liberal as hell. He is to the far left and then over a bit more, no way he would say most of those things in that article.

He said a few choice words a few weeks back just totally bashing our troops overseas. He is not as great an American as many make him out to be.

How does that make him any less of an American? Wouldn't it make him MORE American, being that he feels free to exercise his right to free speech? Or is he supposed to cheer whatever the government decides?

Supporting the troops is different than supporting the government that sends the troops. Likewise, attacking the troops is different than attacking the government that sends the troops. Part of being an American is having a life where you can choose what you want to do or not do. You have the right to vote and the right not to; however, I believe it to be extremely un-American not to vote. Kinda paradoxical, huh.
 

Babbles

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<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38002">Andy Rooney:
GIs not heroes</a>

There is a link to some article critiquing Any Rooney, I am too lazy but I am sure if you google up some more you can find the original transcript.

Again, as somebody mentioned it is okay for anybody to disagree with the policies of an administration, but to smack talk about the soldiers is a different deal.

Edit: fixed the link
 

PatboyX

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: Babbles
I think it is a pretty creative piece and I agree with practically all of it. Though, as others pointed out, Rooney did not write that nor would he ever write something along those lines. Sometimes he is witty, but he is as liberal as hell. He is to the far left and then over a bit more, no way he would say most of those things in that article.

He said a few choice words a few weeks back just totally bashing our troops overseas. He is not as great an American as many make him out to be.

How does that make him any less of an American? Wouldn't it make him MORE American, being that he feels free to exercise his right to free speech? Or is he supposed to cheer whatever the government decides?

Supporting the troops is different than supporting the government that sends the troops. Likewise, attacking the troops is different than attacking the government that sends the troops. Part of being an American is having a life where you can choose what you want to do or not do. You have the right to vote and the right not to; however, I believe it to be extremely un-American not to vote. Kinda paradoxical, huh.

true!
we have the right to ogle underage girls or the right not to. we have the right to create a gallery of said girls. we have a right to avoid gallery as jack material at all costs; however, i believe it to be extremely un-american to avoid aforementioned girls, uncensored gallery and all.
 

0roo0roo

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just reading through a few paragraphs it became obvious that it was not the work of andy. i've listened to enough of his bits on 60 minutes to get a feel i guess:p not to mention he's just more intelligent then that.

and yea, this was def him about the french http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/rooney.asp from that other snopes poster:)
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Babbles
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="https://<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38002">Andy Rooney:
GIs not heroes</a>">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38002[/S</a>

There is a link to some article critiquing Any Rooney, I am too lazy but I am sure if you google up some more you can find the original transcript.

Again, as somebody mentioned it is okay for anybody to disagree with the policies of an administration, but to smack talk about the soldiers is a different deal.

fixed
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Babbles
GIs not heroeshttps://[L=Andy Rooney:<B[/S]

There is a link to some article critiquing Any Rooney, I am too lazy but I am sure if you google up some more you can find the original transcript.

Again, as somebody mentioned it is okay for anybody to disagree with the policies of an administration, but to smack talk about the soldiers is a different deal.
Did you even read the original transcript? :roll:

We must support our soldiers in Iraq because it's our fault they're risking their lives there. However, we should not bestow the mantle of heroism on all of them for simply being where we sent them. Most are victims, not heroes.

America's intentions are honorable. I believe that, and we must find a way of making the rest of the world believe it. We want to do the right thing. We care about the rest of the world. President Bush's intentions were honorable when he took us into Iraq. They were not well thought out but honorable.

Bush's determination to make the evidence fit the action he took, which it does not, has made things look worse. We pay lip service to the virtues of openness and honesty, but for some reason, we too often act as though there was a better way of handling a bad situation than by being absolutely open and honest.
 

Bulk Beef

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Again, as somebody mentioned it is okay for anybody to disagree with the policies of an administration, but to smack talk about the soldiers is a different deal.
If you think he was "totally bashing our troops", you completely missed the point.
 

PatboyX

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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Babbles
GIs not heroeshttps://[L=Andy Rooney:<B[/S]

There is a link to some article critiquing Any Rooney, I am too lazy but I am sure if you google up some more you can find the original transcript.

Again, as somebody mentioned it is okay for anybody to disagree with the policies of an administration, but to smack talk about the soldiers is a different deal.
Did you even read the original transcript? :roll:

no! do you have it?
or was it linked on there. id love to read it becuase it seems like he is not bashing the soldiers so much as saying "these are regular people in the midst of a world of sh!t. the media likes to make them out as heroes. (heroes = people who know exactly what they are doing, why they are doing it and have full trust about their mission)" so...it doesnt seem like he is saying anything too out of line but that the article is disregarding context to make it seem worse than his intent.
also: the "related articles" section makes me not really believe this is a journalistic site.
 

silverpig

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: Babbles
I think it is a pretty creative piece and I agree with practically all of it. Though, as others pointed out, Rooney did not write that nor would he ever write something along those lines. Sometimes he is witty, but he is as liberal as hell. He is to the far left and then over a bit more, no way he would say most of those things in that article.

He said a few choice words a few weeks back just totally bashing our troops overseas. He is not as great an American as many make him out to be.

How does that make him any less of an American? Wouldn't it make him MORE American, being that he feels free to exercise his right to free speech? Or is he supposed to cheer whatever the government decides?

Supporting the troops is different than supporting the government that sends the troops. Likewise, attacking the troops is different than attacking the government that sends the troops. Part of being an American is having a life where you can choose what you want to do or not do. You have the right to vote and the right not to; however, I believe it to be extremely un-American not to vote. Kinda paradoxical, huh.

Even if the troops are abusing prisioners?
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: PatboyX
Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: Babbles
GIs not heroeshttps://[L=Andy]http://]http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38002[/L]">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38002[/S]https://[L=Andy[/L] Rooney:<B[/S]

There is a link to some article critiquing Any Rooney, I am too lazy but I am sure if you google up some more you can find the original transcript.

Again, as somebody mentioned it is okay for anybody to disagree with the policies of an administration, but to smack talk about the soldiers is a different deal.
Did you even read the original transcript? :roll:

no! do you have it?
or was it linked on there. id love to read it becuase it seems like he is not bashing the soldiers so much as saying "these are regular people in the midst of a world of sh!t. the media likes to make them out as heroes. (heroes = people who know exactly what they are doing, why they are doing it and have full trust about their mission)" so...it doesnt seem like he is saying anything too out of line but that the article is disregarding context to make it seem worse than his intent.
also: the "related articles" section makes me not really believe this is a journalistic site.
[L=Here you go.]http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1123238/posts[/L]
It's just slightly different from what the slavering retards at WND would have you believe.
 

Babbles

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"We speak of them as if they volunteered to risk their lives to save ours, but there isn't much voluntary about what most of them have done," Rooney contends. "A relatively small number are professional soldiers."

As far as I know the US military is an all volunteer force, so yes those soldiers did volunteer to risk their lives. Also being that it is an all volunteer military, with the exception of the reserves, they are all professional soldiers.

I think what Andy Rooney said is pretty demeaning to the men and women. I am sure that is exactly the type of stuff that our men and women in uniform really want to be hearing :roll:
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: silverpig
Originally posted by: Babbles
I think it is a pretty creative piece and I agree with practically all of it. Though, as others pointed out, Rooney did not write that nor would he ever write something along those lines. Sometimes he is witty, but he is as liberal as hell. He is to the far left and then over a bit more, no way he would say most of those things in that article.

He said a few choice words a few weeks back just totally bashing our troops overseas. He is not as great an American as many make him out to be.

How does that make him any less of an American? Wouldn't it make him MORE American, being that he feels free to exercise his right to free speech? Or is he supposed to cheer whatever the government decides?

Supporting the troops is different than supporting the government that sends the troops. Likewise, attacking the troops is different than attacking the government that sends the troops. Part of being an American is having a life where you can choose what you want to do or not do. You have the right to vote and the right not to; however, I believe it to be extremely un-American not to vote. Kinda paradoxical, huh.

Even if the troops are abusing prisioners?

The handful that did need to be punished. That doesn't mean bashing of the entire armed services is warranted. :roll:
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Babbles
"We speak of them as if they volunteered to risk their lives to save ours, but there isn't much voluntary about what most of them have done," Rooney contends. "A relatively small number are professional soldiers."

As far as I know the US military is an all volunteer force, so yes those soldiers did volunteer to risk their lives. Also being that it is an all volunteer military, with the exception of the reserves, they are all professional soldiers.

I think what Andy Rooney said is pretty demeaning to the men and women. I am sure that is exactly the type of stuff that our men and women in uniform really want to be hearing :roll:
Again. Read the original article.