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RESmonkey

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Eh, don't know if I'll be gaming, though. Engineering...
Probably won't take a console with me. I don't want to carry too much with me my first time there.
 

Jeff7181

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Aug 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: KK
Just a T1, I would ban all internet traffic too. How many users do you have?

here in boulder about 250. like i said a DS3 is soon to be installed.

Fvck that ds3, get them users at least an oc48. They need their music, tv, and porn. :p

Or dual OC48's? Ahh the joys of working at a fortune 500 company with a modern data center... too bad they're going to start filtering traffic :(
 

mcmilljb

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May 17, 2005
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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Eh, don't know if I'll be gaming, though. Engineering...
Probably won't take a console with me. I don't want to carry too much with me my first time there.

Only if you're not that good and have to spend all your nights in the lab. :evil::laugh:
During your first year, you will not be taxed at all and dying to play games or do something fun. Later years, time managment and skills will determine your free time.
 
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Heh, back when I worked an offsite help desk, I got a call from one of our client sites (Higher Ed, call was from a college student in the dorms - about 6pm) asking for help on getting his XBox connected to the network. He apparently called Microsoft for help first, and the issue was that he was being port blocked, so he called us wanting us to open up the ports on the network. I told him that there was no way for me to get him up and running because I had no ability to open up the ports, and only network services could do that. And I also noted that an XBox is unauthorized hardware on the network anyway, so network would likely laugh at him. After about a 10 second pause of silent, he says, "So.. can you have the network people open up those ports for me?"

I laughed, and forwarded the ticket to network services, and posted also posted it on the wall of shame for everyone to see.

That's pretty wack if you can't hook up XBL in a dorm.

How many kids bring consoles to their dorms?

I would say most. They think the uni network is theirs to do with as they please just like mommy and daddy's home.

they fucking pay for it, so yes, i would say it's not unreasonable.
 

mcmilljb

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Heh, back when I worked an offsite help desk, I got a call from one of our client sites (Higher Ed, call was from a college student in the dorms - about 6pm) asking for help on getting his XBox connected to the network. He apparently called Microsoft for help first, and the issue was that he was being port blocked, so he called us wanting us to open up the ports on the network. I told him that there was no way for me to get him up and running because I had no ability to open up the ports, and only network services could do that. And I also noted that an XBox is unauthorized hardware on the network anyway, so network would likely laugh at him. After about a 10 second pause of silent, he says, "So.. can you have the network people open up those ports for me?"

I laughed, and forwarded the ticket to network services, and posted also posted it on the wall of shame for everyone to see.

That's pretty wack if you can't hook up XBL in a dorm.

How many kids bring consoles to their dorms?

I would say most. They think the uni network is theirs to do with as they please just like mommy and daddy's home.

I rather have them play Halo 3 on XBL instead downloading illegal music/video(which consumes a lot of bandwidth on college networks) and using network printers to generate DMCA letters.
 

thomsbrain

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Dec 4, 2001
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OP is Mordac, Preventer of Information Services.

For christ sake, your network can't handle 8 KB/s of crappy MP3 streaming for a few hours a day? For what they pay you to fuck with people's ability to use the network, I'm sure they could just upgrade the network so they don't NEED you to fuck with people anymore. A network admin's salary would buy a shit-load of bandwidth. Maybe your mere existence on the payroll is the reason your company thinks they can't afford to keep their employees happy... cue Mordac.

I just can't understand why ANY business still uses a T1 connection when there are VASTLY faster and cheaper alternatives.

<-- Works for a place that also blocks streaming media and uses T1's.
 

Jack Ryan

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Jun 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
OP is Mordac, Preventer of Information Services.

For christ sake, your network can't handle 8 KB/s of crappy MP3 streaming for a few hours a day? For what they pay you to fuck with people's ability to use the network, I'm sure they could just upgrade the network so they don't NEED you to fuck with people anymore. A network admin's salary would buy a shit-load of bandwidth. Maybe your mere existence on the payroll is the reason your company thinks they can't afford to keep their employees happy... cue Mordac.

I just can't understand why ANY business still uses a T1 connection when there are VASTLY faster and cheaper alternatives.

<-- Works for a place that also blocks streaming media and uses T1's.

I have to agree. Blocking anything beyond porn is ridiculous and degrades the quality of life for people at work.

It causes more harm than good if you have the bandwidth.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Aug 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: zixxer
I deal with this every single day. It's amazing that there are so many people that don't seem to care at all about their job - warned 2-3 times for streaming, sent home, then come back and install p2p.. WTF.

At some point I had built a firewall for the company, when before that they had not had any firewall at all. What seemed to work fine (besides simply blocking the ports) was to tell the people that the management could see the firewall logs too, but didn't look at it often. So if they'd stop doing it it would most likely go unnoticed ;)

That, and scaring the hell out of the few people who could appreciate a good joke by sending them fake management mails about their internet use (and dropping by with a big grin before they'd run to the management to apologize).
 

InlineFive

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Sep 20, 2003
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Originally posted by: mcmilljb
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: Ns1
Originally posted by: SunnyD
Heh, back when I worked an offsite help desk, I got a call from one of our client sites (Higher Ed, call was from a college student in the dorms - about 6pm) asking for help on getting his XBox connected to the network. He apparently called Microsoft for help first, and the issue was that he was being port blocked, so he called us wanting us to open up the ports on the network. I told him that there was no way for me to get him up and running because I had no ability to open up the ports, and only network services could do that. And I also noted that an XBox is unauthorized hardware on the network anyway, so network would likely laugh at him. After about a 10 second pause of silent, he says, "So.. can you have the network people open up those ports for me?"

I laughed, and forwarded the ticket to network services, and posted also posted it on the wall of shame for everyone to see.

That's pretty wack if you can't hook up XBL in a dorm.

How many kids bring consoles to their dorms?

I would say most. They think the uni network is theirs to do with as they please just like mommy and daddy's home.

I rather have them play Halo 3 on XBL instead downloading illegal music/video(which consumes a lot of bandwidth on college networks) and using network printers to generate DMCA letters.

The thing Mordac doesn't pickup on is the fact that the faster, cheaper alternative don't have the same SLA. Now perhaps if the company had all of the employees on a 10Mbps cable connection and their critical services on a T1 the story would be different.

And OP, why aren't you using some sort of port authentication on your network? Sounds like a big enough operation to me.
 

brxndxn

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Apr 3, 2001
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Don't be a p33n, let them stream!

I don't see why the hell there isn't enough bandwidth from start to finish on the entire Internet to let every user do whatever the hell he or she wants. If we are running out of capacity, we need more infrastructure.
 

oddyager

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May 21, 2005
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Use MAC-address limits on your switches if you are running Cisco hardware and if you really want to crack down on them implement dot1x authentication.

My company has over 5000 users across the globe with all of their internet piped through various centralized hubs. Each of these hubs provide internet resources for business related purposes. We apply the same policy for phone usage. If you aren't media and you aren't part of our entertainment division, then no streaming media for j00! People who cry that this degrades quality of work are just grasping at straws. You want to listen to the radio? Bring your own in. Plenty of wall sockets for you to plug one in.
 

Jack Ryan

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Jun 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: oddyager
Use MAC-address limits on your switches if you are running Cisco hardware and if you really want to crack down on them implement dot1x authentication.

My company has over 5000 users across the globe with all of their internet piped through various centralized hubs. Each of these hubs provide internet resources for business related purposes. We apply the same policy for phone usage. If you aren't media and you aren't part of our entertainment division, then no streaming media for j00! People who cry that this degrades quality of work are just grasping at straws. You want to listen to the radio? Bring your own in. Plenty of wall sockets for you to plug one in.

Numerous studies say you are wrong. It is an old school way of thinking to block/censor things as a way to increase productivity (just as suggesting a RADIO as a work around is old school).
 

PlasmaBomb

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Nov 19, 2004
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I hope you have a radio license if they are all bring radios into work! Big fuss over here at the moment where individuals can't bring in radios to listen too without the companies having a license... (technically its a public performance license, since other employees or customers may be able to hear the radio).
 

Anubis

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Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
I hope you have a radio license if they are all bring radios into work! Big fuss over here at the moment where individuals can't bring in radios to listen too without the companies having a license... (technically its a public performance license, since other employees or customers may be able to hear the radio).

you live in england im guessing

FWIW

Pandora is blocked here at work, you can stream music from site that arnt blocked

at school XBL worked fine when i was there, all P2P worked fine untill i crashed the network with Scour. after napster made big news they cracked down
Direct Connect still worked fine and the hub is still going IIRC.

i listen to my MP3 player at work because my comp does not have speakers + i can listen to whatever i want this way
 

JoeBleed

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Jun 27, 2000
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Originally posted by: InlineFive

The thing Mordac doesn't pickup on is the fact that the faster, cheaper alternative don't have the same SLA. Now perhaps if the company had all of the employees on a 10Mbps cable connection and their critical services on a T1 the story would be different.

And OP, why aren't you using some sort of port authentication on your network? Sounds like a big enough operation to me.

That is basicly how we do it at our locations. T1 for bussiness data and our router sends all internet bound traffic to our dsl line. We don't filter anything. Fortunatly, acording to logs, we don't have anyone that likes to surf porn at work.

If they bog down our dsl line, they only hurt themselves. I know of a few people that stream internet radio. I don't care, it no longer effects our bussiness data. Getting teh 1.5dsl line for internet use was cheaper than setting up filering equipment. And, now when the rare ocasion our T1 goes down our dsl line becomes our backup connection and all internet traffice is droped for that time. Having the dsl line as backup is much, much better and much cheaper than the old isdn we use to have.

This setup has been working great for us for a few years now.
 

ultimatebob

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Jul 1, 2001
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This topic just BEGS for a "Damn network Nazi blocked ATOT access at work, IT guys suck!" style parody thread :)