Elon Musk now owns 9.2% of twitter...update.. will soon be the sole owner as Board of Directors accepts his purchase offer

Page 525 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

K1052

Elite Member
Aug 21, 2003
52,601
46,251
136
A lot of cars have the electric door releases these days.



Sometimes, like for the Tesla, it’s to protect weather seals on the frameless windows.

Lexus apparently does it in some vehicles to prevent you from opening the door into on coming bikes or traffic. The electronic lock won’t unlock unless the door is clear.

All cars have to have a manual physical release

For those who haven’t driven one Tesla puts the emergency manual door release just below the main button you use to exit the car. However they only have the manual door releases in the front doors so rear passengers may have to climb into the front to exit.

I also owned a Subaru BRZ 2 door four seater so rear passengers in those cars also have to climb into the front to exit in a crash.

I do think it’s stupid not to have a manual release on all car doors. I also think the biggest problem with having an electric and a manual release is in a crash or emergency you won’t be thinking straight and will do what your muscle memory says to do to exit.

In a crash people don’t necessarily remember that there is a manual handle on the floor you have to pull (Corvette) or you have pull the lever twice instead of push once (Lexus) or find which part of the door arm rest to pull (Tesla) to open the door in a dead car.

For Tesla not all releases are in the same places in their cars and they've moved them sometimes depending on the model year.

As for straight thinking right after you were involved in a potentially serious accident, could be injured, and had a bunch of airbags set off in your face...yeah not so much.
 

Paratus

Lifer
Jun 4, 2004
17,631
15,819
146
For Tesla not all releases are in the same places in their cars and they've moved them sometimes depending on the model year.

As for straight thinking right after you were involved in a potentially serious accident, could be injured, and had a bunch of airbags set off in your face...yeah not so much.
Quite frankly DOT requirements for electronic door releases should probably force a design such that one actuation triggers the electronic portion so windows can slide down or warnings of on coming traffic can be made and then the second actuation bypasses the electronic nannies and manually releases the door. Then resets to normal after the door is opened and closed.

Most people even in an accident will likely try to open the door normally at least twice if it doesn’t open the first time.
 
  • Like
Reactions: K1052

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
22,230
6,428
136
I think a easily reachable manual door release should be a government mandate. They mandated stupid TPMS, they can mandate door release.
Or you could just buy a car that already has manual door latches. Lots of them available.
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
26,023
12,266
136
Those hidden door handles and electronic releases need to go away. I will NOT buy a car that has any of those.
Yea, that's when you actually use the hard key buried in your fob.
Edit: I guess access to the actual door handles is still a problem.
 
Last edited:

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
62,727
18,889
136
Herr Musk trying to boost sales in Europe, is he?
Addressing the demonstration by video link, Musk called for the dissolution of Parliament and an early election to remove Starmer’s center-left government. He told protesters “violence is coming to you” and “you either fight back or you die.”

 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
26,140
15,573
136
Herr Musk trying to boost sales in Europe, is he?


Guess the idiot is still not connecting abysmal sales with his actions on the global stage. You have to be quite dumb to not make that connection. Like real dumb.
 

manly

Lifer
Jan 25, 2000
13,258
4,033
136
Like McDonald’s hamburgers, billions will be sold. :p



Fred Lambert thinks the fraud pump is strong.

 
  • Like
Reactions: hal2kilo

Brovane

Diamond Member
Dec 18, 2001
6,370
2,578
136
For Tesla not all releases are in the same places in their cars and they've moved them sometimes depending on the model year.

As for straight thinking right after you were involved in a potentially serious accident, could be injured, and had a bunch of airbags set off in your face...yeah not so much.

The manual door release on my Y is so hidden that people keep using it instead of the electronic release........... :confused:
 
  • Haha
Reactions: hal2kilo

Pontius Dilate

Senior member
Mar 28, 2008
256
477
136
The manual door release on my Y is so hidden that people keep using it instead of the electronic release........... :confused:
It is weird to me that they hid them for the rear doors when they have a reasonable solution for the front that could have been applied to the rear.
 
Dec 10, 2005
28,627
13,721
136
It is weird to me that they hid them for the rear doors when they have a reasonable solution for the front that could have been applied to the rear.
But that costs money to implement, and if you do things that make sense, that's not very "disruptive" for a tech company. They need to reinvent everything because some things clearly haven't ended up the way they did through years of iterative design and refinement...
 

Brovane

Diamond Member
Dec 18, 2001
6,370
2,578
136
It is weird to me that they hid them for the rear doors when they have a reasonable solution for the front that could have been applied to the rear.

Yeah that is weird, I don't know if it is somebody about the door size or a elmo design feature.
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
26,140
15,573
136
Do we need another billionaire thread?

Maybe we do



Dark fucking times
Too few people with way too much money to push around their political will for this to be sustainable. At least for the common folk
 

cytg111

Lifer
Mar 17, 2008
26,140
15,573
136
All the more reason to tax the shit out of really rich people. Not as a revenue raiser, but as a way to crush their individual and disproportionate power through the media empires and other organizations they personally control.
End stage terminal capitalism is when individuals surpass the power of the state. To become the state?
 

hal2kilo

Lifer
Feb 24, 2009
26,023
12,266
136
But that costs money to implement, and if you do things that make sense, that's not very "disruptive" for a tech company. They need to reinvent everything because some things clearly haven't ended up the way they did through years of iterative design and refinement...
Hell, I'm still pissed they got rid of the high beam floor switch.